Clickbank=Epic Fail?

FromUndaCheese

FromUndaCheese

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I recently decided to start testing some Clickbank offers in the big 3 and am wondering, why the HELL would anyone want to send traffic to these horrible sites?

Even on a good day with the best advertorial/review site/flog I can't break $1 EPC on any Clickbank product.

I'm off that train. Back to Lead Pushing.
 


Hmm cause you can still monetize traffic from big 3 (big 2 now, no ?) which they have and which show demand for some solution that horrible sites provide ? Simply you are not potential client of that info sites.

$1EPC is bad ? Are you still dreaming in Acai world ?

Moreover $1 epc is fucking great for CB products.

Also... hm... how many leadgeans actually give you $1EPC ? Same per-sale one (which is same as clickbank, just not infoproduct, not lead anyway) ? Definitely not games, IQ tests/horoscopes, mobile shit, e-mail/zip submits, downloads/toolbars.

Sometimes dating - yeah sometimes. Travel offers, but CPA networks have only scum timeshare ones it seems.
 
seolinker said:
Hmm cause you can still monetize traffic from big 3 (big 2 now, no ?) which they have and which show demand for some solution that horrible sites provide ? Simply you are not potential client of that info sites.

$1EPC is bad ? Are you still dreaming in Acai world ?

Moreover $1 epc is fucking great for CB products.

Also... hm... how many leadgeans actually give you $1EPC ? Same per-sale one (which is same as clickbank, just not infoproduct, not lead anyway) ? Definitely not games, IQ tests/horoscopes, mobile shit, e-mail/zip submits, downloads/toolbars.

Sometimes dating - yeah sometimes. Travel offers, but CPA networks have only scum timeshare ones it seems.
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I consistently get over $1 EPCs running zip submits, edu, and insurance lead gens. It's about testing offers seeing what converts and ditching the shitty ones. There's no reason why you can't find solid offers in almost any vertical.
 
crackp0t said:
I consistently get over $1 EPCs running zip submits, edu, and insurance lead gens. It's about testing offers seeing what converts and ditching the shitty ones. There's no reason why you can't find solid offers in almost any vertical.
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This. Not sure why anybody would honestly think they couldn't pull of $1+ EPC's on insurance and edu offers. Email/Zip Submits are a whole different beast though.
 
Unless you own exact domain for main theme of zip/e-mail submit in Google/Bing and it's top 1 for that searches of gas card or so...and even then.... highly doubt.

Insurance, credit/debit card, payday, edu offers obviously better than shitty one I listed, but still somewhere in between, like $0.2-$1EPC, but never $1EPC for stable long time. Exception maybe that 4moms, 4 dads, etc. Ok, ok!

Are you talking media buys now ?
 
seolinker said:
Unless you own exact domain for main theme of zip/e-mail submit in Google/Bing and it's top 1 for that searches of gas card or so...and even then.... highly doubt.

Insurance, credit/debit card, payday, edu offers obviously better than shitty one I listed, but still somewhere in between, like $0.2-$1EPC, but never $1EPC for stable long time. Exception maybe that 4moms, 4 dads, etc. Ok, ok!

Are you talking media buys now ?
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Are you serious? You can't see a stable $1 EPC on an edu offer? You can convert at 4% and still see that.
 
Which payout ? $25 ? Have seen that only in special offers for approval, for e-mail traffic only and probably in networks which advertise as highest payouts. Pretty uncommon, no ?
 
seolinker said:
Unless you own exact domain for main theme of zip/e-mail submit in Google/Bing and it's top 1 for that searches of gas card or so...and even then.... highly doubt.

Insurance, credit/debit card, payday, edu offers obviously better than shitty one I listed, but still somewhere in between, like $0.2-$1EPC, but never $1EPC for stable long time. Exception maybe that 4moms, 4 dads, etc. Ok, ok!

Are you talking media buys now ?
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Email traffic only. No PPC / Media Buys / PPV or whatever the lingo for paid traffic is. I will only touch private Zip Submit offers with decent payouts. I send legit traffic which is why I get them.

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definition of decent payout > $5 and they convert.
 
seolinker said:
$1EPC is bad ? Are you still dreaming in Acai world ?

Moreover $1 epc is fucking great for CB products.

Also... hm... how many leadgeans actually give you $1EPC ? Same per-sale one (which is same as clickbank, just not infoproduct, not lead anyway) ? Definitely not games, IQ tests/horoscopes, mobile shit, e-mail/zip submits, downloads/toolbars.

Sometimes dating - yeah sometimes. Travel offers, but CPA networks have only scum timeshare ones it seems.
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What're you talking about? There's so many offers with overall EPCs > $1.00. It's not an astronomical feat to be able to achieve. We've got offers with $8.00 EPCs, it's all about the traffic source and the person marketing it.

And on EDU -- if you're making .20 EPC's you're surely losing money if you're pushing any quality traffic.

$1 EPC is not a benchmark number that should be admired, it's a good EPC for lots of offers though.

I commonly see those EPC's for specifically the types of offers you mentioned, except email submits (though I often see .40 - .75 epc's).

Crackp0t, hook me up with those email submits you're running ;).
 
Submits can give .80 (I haven't personally done a dollar) epc or so if they convert at 30%ish with the right payout, which is only possible if you have an absolutely no-shave relationship. Issue is, the vast majority of the submits do shave, of course, as is well known. If your submit epc is 20c it could in reality be more like 80c if things were transparent. Just depends on what network, advertiser, and relationships.
 
When I was slangin CB stuff I averaged $2-$3 EPC with nothing but webs of articles and review sites (yeah all FREE traffic). It can be done easily with enough "push" but if you're just running ads pointing to your review sites I wouldn't expect those kinds of results.

Everybody in my funnel never had to click even ONE "ad" which I think makes the biggest difference with the type of products CB deals with.

On the other hand, it was time consuming and I was never satisfied enough with Hadji writing skills so I did it 100% myself and burned the f00k out quick.
 
PhilipShapiro said:
What're you talking about? There's so many offers with overall EPCs > $1.00. It's not an astronomical feat to be able to achieve. We've got offers with $8.00 EPCs, it's all about the traffic source and the person marketing it.

And on EDU -- if you're making .20 EPC's you're surely losing money if you're pushing any quality traffic.

$1 EPC is not a benchmark number that should be admired, it's a good EPC for lots of offers though.

I commonly see those EPC's for specifically the types of offers you mentioned, except email submits (though I often see .40 - .75 epc's).

Crackp0t, hook me up with those email submits you're running ;).
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$8 EPC's ? No shiiit ? Aside from penny auctions on seo traffic for related to that keywords (which limits number of aff doing it anyway) can't imagine what else is that:rainfro:

Didn't mention e-mail traffic too. Yes, have seen EDU which can do $1 EPC on e-mail.
 
As a junior partner with a guy running a decent clickbank product, I can tell you some guys are averaging WAY over $1 a click and some are at 5 cents
 
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