Cloaking Against GoogleAds Bot on Landing Page

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People seem to get their adwords account banned from time to time from what I have read, and I wouldnt be surprised if cloaking for GoogleAds bot is a primary reason. But that is just my speculation. I am interested in learning more about this technique, does anyone have any experience?

Here is what I am thinking:
I have been thinking about trying this since Google started manually reviewing my advertisement submissions and sometimes they get approved and sometimes they get denied. The most annoying thing is that it sometimes takes Google 3 or 4 days to approve an ad and sometimes they dont look at it at all, and the ad just hangs there in "pending review". Its incredibly frustrating when trying to get new campaigns off the ground, and even then they are not safe, sometimes Google comes back around a few weeks later and denies the ad after they already approved it. Google usually says that my ad does not correspond to my landing page, and thats why it gets denied, so, this got me around to thinking about cloaking.

Here is my general idea:

I know that no one from Google actually comes to my page manually. A bot named Google-adsbot comes and scrapes my page and then a person working for google looks over what Google adBot scraped. I am not 100% certain of this, but about 95% certain. So I figured that I could get the ip address of the bot, and it always uses the useragent "Adsbot-Google". So I have a program check to see if it is the adbot and if it is then I show it one thing and if its a regular user I show them another.

I am only hesitant to do this because Google probably uses another adbot that does not declare itself so clearly as an adbot and probably uses some other IP addresses to make sure that this type of cloaking is not going on. That being said, has anyone been banned for this before? How were you trying to cloak, and how long did it take them to catch you?

Thanks for the help.
 


There is a guy in my niche thats been cloaking for 18 months, never been banned. Actually I'm considering it doing it myself since he's done it so long.
 
Sonny Forelli said:
you're wrong about the lack of manual review
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Hmm... whats your basis for that? I'll tell you my basis for me thinking that a person does not come by. I was running an ad smooth for about 2 weeks. To get this ad approved, I had the landing page say abunch of shit before Google approved it, and then once the ad was running I changed it all(You probably get banned for doing this too often, they probably dont like you wasting their time). This worked for 2 weeks. Then the ad stopped getting impressions. Then Google told me it was now disapproved. The most likely way that this happened was Google Adsbot came by and saw that there was now different material at my page than what it saw before, so my page gets triggered for another "manual review". A person looks at what Google bot brings back the second time and disapproves it. I looked at any suspicious traffic on my landing page while the ad was running. I saw nothing that looked like some one from Google, but there were several Google Adsbot hits.

Granted, I am basing everything on one situation. So there may be other instances when a person actually visits the page, but that seems like way more manual labor that Google wants to deal with. Seems like they want to do everything with as little man power as possible. Including the basics, like customer service.
 
You will get a manual review, eventually. All accounts do. You could go for months without one, then get 2 in a week.
You'll get one a lot quicker if your campaign throws a red flag, or you're in a 'watched' niche.
 
Jaz74 said:
There is a guy in my niche thats been cloaking for 18 months, never been banned. Actually I'm considering it doing it myself since he's done it so long.
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i've always thought cloaking was incredibly short sighted. For me its better to run legit stuff and not risk banning.
 
SandnSurf said:
You will get a manual review, eventually. All accounts do. You could go for months without one, then get 2 in a week.
You'll get one a lot quicker if your campaign throws a red flag, or you're in a 'watched' niche.
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Manual reviews happen all the time - and rarely from IPs that are registered to Google. Look closely in your logs & you should be able to find them.
 
tvmatt said:
Manual reviews happen all the time - and rarely from IPs that are registered to Google. Look closely in your logs & you should be able to find them.
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Yep, from a variety of IP's, but reasonably easy to allow for, though my method is not comlpletely foolproof.
 
Joesavage said:
Hmm... whats your basis for that? I'll tell you my basis for me thinking that a person does not come by. I was running an ad smooth for about 2 weeks. To get this ad approved, I had the landing page say abunch of shit before Google approved it, and then once the ad was running I changed it all(You probably get banned for doing this too often, they probably dont like you wasting their time). This worked for 2 weeks. Then the ad stopped getting impressions. Then Google told me it was now disapproved. The most likely way that this happened was Google Adsbot came by and saw that there was now different material at my page than what it saw before, so my page gets triggered for another "manual review". A person looks at what Google bot brings back the second time and disapproves it. I looked at any suspicious traffic on my landing page while the ad was running. I saw nothing that looked like some one from Google, but there were several Google Adsbot hits.

Granted, I am basing everything on one situation. So there may be other instances when a person actually visits the page, but that seems like way more manual labor that Google wants to deal with. Seems like they want to do everything with as little man power as possible. Including the basics, like customer service.
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Here is what you can for sure see in your account...

random bot checks and manual reviews at random times from random IP's.
 
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