CX - Getting getting assf*cked by CX? CX not Paying you either for XM leads?
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I heard their paying everyone in Acai Bottles. I now have 2,000 bottles in my fridge.
This is very bad business
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All real estate transactions in Florida use a third party escrow service to protect both partied involved. This is call “Fair Play” in the brick and mortar business world but does not exist, to date, in cyberworld.
Its time for a change.
Shaving of numbers is a HUGE issue in both CPA and CPC/CPM Markets. Millions if not billions are being lost in affiliate marketing ad spend due to number shaving. If it’s not the advertisers shaving numbers -it’s the ad networks.
Affiliate marketers simply have zero control over their own paychecks atm.
And it’s very disturbing. I know personally many affiliate marketers making Google rich buying traffic from Adwords and sending it to CPA offers. And do you think they are not overcharging as well? (low repeat click duration etc.,) But how would we ever know –no IP logs, short of a law suit, would ever surface!) So affiliate marketers are getting hammered from not one, but both sides.
We tend to move to another offer when the numbers don’t make sense anymore or out of personal principal we just cant take it anymore.. -as if we are able to give the advertiser/ad network a little slap on the knuckles by moving to another offer? But that does not recoup the loss of $1000’s in ad spend that affiliate marketers incurred daily.
Unfortunately this is the nature of the beast in CPA markets. And unbeknownst to some of us, control over paycheck amounts were forfeited once we entered the CPA market. In my earlier years, being in the SEO biz, we wouldn’t touch CPA deals due to this very reason -loss of control over revenues.
In fact we turned many advertisers down at that time. Building SEO traffic and selling on a cpc basis was far too lucrative for us to change gears. But then it dawned on many of us.. “Hey lets build our own pages (using various other marketing techniques) to convert these offers” Because advertisers didn’t have a clue how to do it.
The elite group of affiliate marketers was born.
But the shaving issues and loss of control over payouts have remained the same.
Possible solutions:
1. Third Party Online Escrow
2. Third party tracking and revenue-auditing platform?
3. Third Party ODR (Online dispute resolution)
Yea it would seem a little too late for this but if we say or do nothing -nothing will change.
Nothing is wrong with a third party escrow, third party fraud auditing and third party ODR (online dispute resolution) systems from creditable established companies that have no monetary interest in revenues and in fact truly represents ‘both parties interests’.
Again this is called “Fair Play” and so far has been absent on the net. [/FONT]
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You said it my friend. I am a licensed realtor and mortgage broker for 15 years prior to establishing an online business in 2000.
All real estate transactions in Florida use a third party escrow service to protect both partied involved. This is call “Fair Play” in the brick and mortar business world but does not exist, to date, in cyberworld.
Its time for a change.
Shaving of numbers is a HUGE issue in both CPA and CPC/CPM Markets. Millions if not billions are being lost in affiliate marketing ad spend due to number shaving. If it’s not the advertisers shaving numbers -it’s the ad networks.
Affiliate marketers simply have zero control over their own paychecks atm.
And it’s very disturbing. I know personally many affiliate marketers making Google rich buying traffic from Adwords and sending it to CPA offers. And do you think they are not overcharging as well? (low repeat click duration etc.,) But how would we ever know –no IP logs, short of a law suit, would ever surface!) So affiliate marketers are getting hammered from not one, but both sides.
We tend to move to another offer when the numbers don’t make sense anymore or out of personal principal we just cant take it anymore.. -as if we are able to give the advertiser/ad network a little slap on the knuckles by moving to another offer? But that does not recoup the loss of $1000’s in ad spend that affiliate marketers incurred daily.
Unfortunately this is the nature of the beast in CPA markets. And unbeknownst to some of us, control over paycheck amounts were forfeited once we entered the CPA market. In my earlier years, being in the SEO biz, we wouldn’t touch CPA deals due to this very reason -loss of control over revenues.
In fact we turned many advertisers down at that time. Building SEO traffic and selling on a cpc basis was far too lucrative for us to change gears. But then it dawned on many of us.. “Hey lets build our own pages (using various other marketing techniques) to convert these offers” Because advertisers didn’t have a clue how to do it.
The elite group of affiliate marketers was born.
But the shaving issues and loss of control over payouts have remained the same.
Possible solutions:
1. Third Party Online Escrow
2. Third party tracking and revenue-auditing platform?
3. Third Party ODR (Online dispute resolution)
Yea it would seem a little too late for this but if we say or do nothing -nothing will change.
Nothing is wrong with a third party escrow, third party fraud auditing and third party ODR (online dispute resolution) systems from creditable established companies that have no monetary interest in revenues and in fact truly represents ‘both parties interests’.
Again this is called “Fair Play” and so far has been absent on the net. [/FONT]
