Dear Diary, Today I made a journal.

WF Betting Pool: Noob Survival Edition

  • Hale.Pane lives to pass on wisdom to future noobs (namely do not bet your domain).

    Votes: 9 64.3%

  • REIMktg acquires a new emd. Hale.Pane gets banned for being a noob.

    Votes: 5 35.7%
  • Total voters
    14
I HAZ MONIEZ

Dear Diary,

Pandabait

Position (tracking using serpfox):

kw 1 = 20 [+2, since the drop from 12 it has been steadily increasing]
kw 2 = 134 [-4, skyrocketed to 129 then dropped to 134]
kw 3 = NA (80% complete)
kw 4 = NA (20% complete)
kw 5 = NA (silo not built yet)
kw 6 = NA (silo not built yet)

Recap:

Pinged the site using pingler
Pinged the old links that stuck using bulk ping
Bought 50 PR4+ Social Bookmarks (single user)
Bought 50 PR4+ Social Bookmarks (multi user)
Pinged using pingler

Cost:

50 PR4+ Social Bookmarks (single user) from http://www.wickedfire.com/links-seo/142744-pr-3-dofollow-social-bookmarking-0-10-a.html : $6 USD

50 PR4+ Social Bookmarks (multi user) from http://www.wickedfire.com/links-seo/142744-pr-3-dofollow-social-bookmarking-0-10-a.html : $10 USD

Mars is awesome. He delivers ON TIME and gives a COMPLETE REPORT + extra just in case.

972 word LSI from http://www.wickedfire.com/content/1...oney-site-quality-content-native-speaker.html : $25 USD

1105 word LSI from http://www.wickedfire.com/content/1...ly-content-premium-lsi-articles-021-word.html : $24 USD

Magic ink has excellent customer service. They are also ON TIME and give a report with html .txt and keywords in .csv. A+ content.

EMD domain: $9.28 USD

Expenses: $74.28 USD

Revenue: $ 0.22 USD
CTR: 3.85%
 


Cotillion said:
BTW headless bubs suck - please reconsider your approach :338:
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REIMktg said:
Wow. A solid plan crumbles before our eyes.

Not to say that you cannot make a go of your current path, but how did you come to the above conclusions?
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Well, I decided to abandon having a trademarked product name in my emd because it would simply be a bad long term investment. As I was stalking competitors, I noticed two of them went dark. I was wondering why and did a little research. I hit the search bar and read up on my theory: c&d's. There are TONS of terrible stories about people getting c&d's and I did the math. Add being a broke student and the fact that I haven't really spent anything on the site and I got "abort" as my final answer. My other sites aren't doing bad at all so it really isn't a big issue. I'm just kind of disappointed because I know the holidays can pay well if you can ride the wave.


**noobview: Please do not hestitate to point out my retardedness.
 
Hale.Pane said:
Well, I decided to abandon having a trademarked product name in my emd because it would simply be a bad long term investment. As I was stalking competitors, I noticed two of them went dark. I was wondering why and did a little research. I hit the search bar and read up on my theory: c&d's. There are TONS of terrible stories about people getting c&d's and I did the math. Add being a broke student and the fact that I haven't really spent anything on the site and I got "abort" as my final answer. My other sites aren't doing bad at all so it really isn't a big issue. I'm just kind of disappointed because I know the holidays can pay well if you can ride the wave.


**noobview: Please do not hestitate to point out my retardedness.
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OK Fine. I'll take that trademarked domain off your hands, no problem. j/k. Redirect with a 301 to your new domain if its the same niche and it has links.

The reason I say your plan is crumbling is because you started an EMD domain plan and now have deviated considerably. What you are doing is fine, but the original plan, at least as I understood it, has changed.

You are certain that the other sites were hit with a complaint or is that speculation?
 
REIMktg said:
OK Fine. I'll take that trademarked domain off your hands, no problem. j/k. Redirect with a 301 to your new domain if its the same niche and it has links.
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I've already started shooting links at FAILBOAT and will redirect once the PR goes up. I might even keep it a part of a network if I don't get c&d'ed.

REIMktg said:
You are certain that the other sites were hit with a complaint or is that speculation?
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I can't say 100% but I'd rather not risk my money (I don't have lot) on an emd productproduct+words. Cerealcereal+words is probably harder to rank but is a lot safer.

REIMktg said:
The reason I say your plan is crumbling is because you started an EMD domain plan and now have deviated considerably. What you are doing is fine, but the original plan, at least as I understood it, has changed.
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I don't think it got derailed as much as you do. The point is still which is more cost effective to rank (total ROI) A (2.0 - custom content etc) vs B (MFA shit site). The scale just tips more in B's favor.

What do you think ?
 
Terminology!

mikeshinobi said:
Pardon me for being confused, but are "2.0" and "FAILBOAT" your codenames for your two websites? Is 2.0 some sort of Web 2.0 property and Failboat has something to do with Facebook (FB)? Or am I just reading too much into your codenames?

Keep at it!
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Sorry about that.

CODENAMES:

2.0 - This site is MFA remixed. It has custom content, pictures, video, facebook. Basically everything but the kitchen sink.

FAILBOAT - This was 2.0 til I decided that risking more resources into an EMD that might be taken away was something I didn't want to do. It now has spun content.

PANDABAIT - Classic 5 page shit site that comes to mind when some says MFA. 2k words content (LSI) with a lot of ads (max allowed under TOS) and lots of offsite SEO

If anyone has suggestions to make this case study more readable please let me know!
 
Just jumping in on the EMD point, I had an EMDCoupon site. The TM owners jumped on it after I started ranking top 3 for the term, though they did honor my affiliate payments and the domain still points to my site.

I get the odd adsense click now as I dont bother to update it (still in top 5). Though I considered it a failed side project and just use it as a "link out" to my money site and awaiting till the domain expires to take it off my server :p

In regards to your "2.0" how are your promoting it on FB. I have I simple fanpage where I add a link to my new posts etc to add a backlink, and plan to build a few "shizer" links to it so I can get my fanpage to rank leaning on FB inherent authority. Apart from that I am at a slight loss.
 
AceB7 said:
Just jumping in on the EMD point, I had an EMDCoupon site. The TM owners jumped on it after I started ranking top 3 for the term, though they did honor my affiliate payments and the domain still points to my site.
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This is what I want to avoid. With little funding I can't afford to take risks like these.

AceB7 said:
In regards to your "2.0" how are your promoting it on FB. I have I simple fanpage where I add a link to my new posts etc to add a backlink, and plan to build a few "shizer" links to it so I can get my fanpage to rank leaning on FB inherent authority. Apart from that I am at a slight loss.
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Hmmm. Since your site is aiming to be legit I would suggest taking a look at Powerfully Simple Facebook Applications | North Social. They have some cool things (like lock, discount like, etc) that are legit for fb fan pages if you can't make them yourself. You'll have to shell out cash for graphics if you can't do them but you can find some awesome providers on BST. You should also pad the number of likes. Padding will accelerate the organic growth of likes. It will grow organically after a thousand or so. You can buy decent targeted likes on BST. Once your fan page grows you can also use it as linkbait for various sites. You can put a viral videos, controversial topics and etc. You can also put the sites that need traffic as tab with linkbait labels.


** If I am giving out retarded advice please let me know.
 
FIRST PAGE

Dear Diary,

Pandabait

Position (tracking using serpfox):

kw 1 = 6 [+18, held at 22 then skyrocketed to 6]
kw 2 = 64 [+70, held at 135 then skyrocketed to 66]
kw 3 = 66 [dancing between 67 and 64]
kw 4 = NA (20% complete)
kw 5 = NA (silo not built yet)
kw 6 = NA (silo not built yet)

Recap:

Pinged the site using pingler
Pinged the old links that stuck using bulk ping
Bought 50 PR4+ Social Bookmarks (single user)
Bought 50 PR4+ Social Bookmarks (multi user)
Bought 200+ Social Bookmarks

Cost:

50 PR4+ Social Bookmarks (single user) from http://www.wickedfire.com/links-seo/142744-pr-3-dofollow-social-bookmarking-0-10-a.html $ 0.10 : $6 USD

50 PR4+ Social Bookmarks (multi user) from http://www.wickedfire.com/links-seo/142744-pr-3-dofollow-social-bookmarking-0-10-a.html $ 0.10 : $10 USD

Mars is awesome. He delivers ON TIME and gives a COMPLETE REPORT + extra just in case.

972 word LSI from http://www.wickedfire.com/content/1...oney-site-quality-content-native-speaker.html : $25 USD

1105 word LSI from http://www.wickedfire.com/content/1...y-content-premium-lsi-articles-021-word.html: $24 USD

Magic ink has excellent customer service. They are also ON TIME and give a report with html .txt and keywords in .csv. A+ content.

200+ Social Bookmarking from http://www.wickedfire.com/links-seo...mission-starting-5-direct-url-bookmarks.html: $8

Shot my rankings skyhigh. Mohsinmajestic delivers on time and gives a full report. He also gives you extra just in case.

EMD domain: $9.28 USD

Expenses: $82.28 USD

Revenue: $ 0.22 USD
CTR: 3.85%
 
REIMktg said:
Re-read LukeP's post and eliquids EMD case study and see if you are missing anything.
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Yeah I'm rereading a bunch of case studies. I'm especially interested in LegitAM's content case study http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-shit/144372-case-study-does-content-matter-emds.html because the bulk of my expenses (58%) is content. I feel that I am overdoing content with 1K lsi per page. The TAT also kills me because I have to wait a while for my articles. I think I'll be trying out text broker after I rank this site.

REIMktg said:
Also, check the source code when going to your site, are the H1, H2, etc tags as you want them to be?
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I'm using SEOmoz free trial and serpIQ free trial to check my onpage. I built the silos and interlinked each page to every page with content/kw. I put the kw in the first sentence and the last sentence. There are 2 pics per page optimized with alt, description and title. I also linked out to 2 authority sites. I also tried to ninja a link in wikipedia. Hopefully it will last and pass some authority over to my site.

REIMktg said:
When you Scroogle and find your site, is the Title and Description what you want?

I say to do it this way because some people get confused in WP or confuse WP themselves with plugins etc. Checking what the site is actually feeding to the end user is a great way to check your work.
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I hesitate to change anything because I have not ranked the site yet. I will split test after I have ranked #1 or get significant traffic.

REIMktg said:
Are you using a cache plugin for speed?
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No. Is it necessary ? Any recommendations for WP?
 
FUCKITY FUCK

Dear Diary,

Allow me a moment to express my frustration. FUCK! So close yet so far away.

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mikeshinobi said:
Hey Hale, I'll just ask you since the forum search function is broken (srs) and my google searches have turned up absolutely nothing on the subject. How are you finding out where your sites rank in Google for specific keywords?
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http://www.link-assistant.com/rank-tracker/ they have a free and paid option, it's good


Hale.Pane said:
Dear Diary,

Allow me a moment to express my frustration. FUCK! So close yet so far away.

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Keep chipping away at it bruh. What's the problem? Just not as far along as you expected at this point?
 
mikeshinobi said:
Hey Hale, I'll just ask you since the forum search function is broken (srs) and my google searches have turned up absolutely nothing on the subject. How are you finding out where your sites rank in Google for specific keywords?
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I use a variety of services to check my rankings + links:

Serpfox - The intelligent keyword rank tracker
serpIQ - The Ultimate SEO Research Toolset
Ahrefs - Backlinks & SERPs Research Tool


AceB7 said:
W3 Cache is good and Cloudflare is a free CDN for basic use. I used it to good effect before I moved my site to be fully https compliant. (they charge for that).
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I added w3. Thanks!

1yerrot said:
Keep chipping away at it bruh. What's the problem? Just not as far along as you expected at this point?
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pandabait: #7 [-1]
revenue: $0.22
CTR 0.86%

Yeah. Maybe I'm doin' it wrong. Or not. I guess it's the fact that I won't know instantly. I also have to resist the natural impulse to do something stupid like throw a bunch of shit at it at the same time.
Maybe I need to index my links? I hesitate to index my bookmarks/links with a service/ping them 2x a day because I want it to look natural.

Other results not related to case study:
DO NOT SHOOT45k blog comments directly at a site - it will dance and vanish despite being emd.

650+ high profile xrumer (pinged using bulk ping) boosted failboat

kw 1 = 75 [+4]
kw 2 = 63 [+63]
 
Onsite SEO

Dear Diary,

With pandabait dropping a rank, I decided to reexamine the site. I decided I wasn't going to leave any money on the table so I looked over the articles again. Magicink is definitely recommended http://www.wickedfire.com/content/1...ly-content-premium-lsi-articles-021-word.html as I did not have to do too much editing. He also offers an html .txt file so it's a lot easier to manage.

I made sure I completed all frontpage onsite SEO for Pandabait. It scored 100% for serpIQ, clickbump SEO plugin for WP and 95.65% for Easy WP SEO plugin (Easy WP requires you to have a keyword density of 4%-5% which would make it seem unnatural)

My onsite seo checklist was based simply on the plugins. I don't think they are all necessary but since I don't know jack shit and haven't tested anything I decided to go with all of them.

Title contains at least 3 words.
Title contains up to 66 characters.
Title contains keyword.
Title begins with keyword.
Permalink contains your keyword.
Description meta tag contains keyword.
Description meta tag contains up to 160 characters.
Description meta tag begins with keyword.
Keywords meta tag contains keyword
H1 tag contains your keyword.
H1 tag begins with keyword.
H2 tag contains your keyword.
H3 tag contains your keyword.
Content contains at least 300 words.
Content has 4.0-5.5% keyword density. <------- sounds like bs
Content contains keyword in the first 50-100 words.
Content contains at least one image with keyword in ALT attribute.
Content contains at least one bold keyword.
Content contains at least one italicized keyword. <------- sounds like bs
Content contains at least one underlined keyword. <------- sounds like bs
Content contains keyword in anchor text of at least one external link.
Content contains keyword in anchor text of at least one internal link.
Content contains keyword in the last starting and ending sentences.
Keyword in Bold and Strong Tag
Keyword in Page URL
Exact Match Domain

I don't know what else to do to the site. I really can't do anything until my blogpost reports come in and observe the change.

I did notice a curious thing with my pageviews
 
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