They denied me, too. The phone call didn't seem to help. Of course, this was a while ago. They said my website (that I no longer operate) was a little too adult-themed. Haha.
Do networks ever deny people?
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They denied me, too. The phone call didn't seem to help. Of course, this was a while ago. They said my website (that I no longer operate) was a little too adult-themed. Haha.
We deny based on a fairly strict criteria, but if an affiliate provides the correct details and can add value to our advertisers campaigns, they will be accepted.
Of course. We have affiliates in China and India. It's just a matter of even proving you're a legitimate affiliate even more. As there is whole rings of guys that do nothing but fraud. They signup on a round robin for networks daily under all kinds of assumed names. Then they use mail drop houses of relatives or contacts they pay in the US to use their address and forward them the checks. They go as far as hiring actor/actresses to talk to us on the phone. So if you're from china you better know your shit pretty well and be pretty knowledgable about the business and industry.
You have to think of it from a networks perspective. My job is to protect the offers so that good affiliates that put a bunch of time into building and testing campaigns to just get them right and make them profitable so they run a long time. If fraudsters get into the system they'll stuff leads and use stolen CC's to try and get the affiliate commissions. Then the advertisers get pissed off and pull the offers. Then all the non-fraudsters lose out.
So in short the tough approval rules is really to protect affiliates and hold on to the offers so we all can promote them.
How do you go about determining if the affiliates that are international legit other than IP check and emailing them. Do you call them up to ask questions to? Whats your normal list of questions? I also believe its more to protect the network from losing an advertiser by sending massive fraud traffic, more so than to protect the affiliates as losing an offer tends to hurt the network more than it does affiliates since most CPA networks offer the same offers elsewhere. The only protection I see on the affiliate side is a) the relationship to the network and not having to run the same offer with another network just because this network lost the offer and b) losing a potential income because of a dropped offer. In either case it still hurts the network more as a whole.
Our experience is similar to Smaxor's: ~50% of applications are fraudsters. And they just don't seem to give up.
You come off from that post as being one of those applications stamped "declined".
Of course offers being pulled hurts affiliates, and a lot more than you might think. Offers might be offered elsewhere but might not convert as well, but a lot of the time offers are exclusive. And if a network is known to have shady affiliates, advertisers won't want to work with them, harming everyone.
Keep your stupid shady ass away from the networks I deal with, thanks in advance.
Just sharing my personal experience on this... I got denied by MarketLeverage (apparently because of a crappy website used in application). Never bothered to call them because was approved to many others at the same week. Am not not US based, but that doesn't really seem to be a problem as long you can talk normal and just be honest about your intentions. Of course some networks have higher requirements though, but there's plenty of fish in the sea. Hundreds of other networks to turn to if someone tells you to fuck off.. The good/big ones will accept once you have the hold of things and can prove it.
And I actually had a guy directly pming me to do the talking for him to get into some networks. So guess it really happens a lot then.
And I actually had a guy directly pming me to do the talking for him to get into some networks. So guess it really happens a lot then.
Same here, if validate the application information and if we can't contact the person, we deny the application. There is a lot of fraud out there and networks have to have some kind of block for it.
Denying affiliates is not just for the benefit of the networks, it's for the benefit of all the affiliates. If we let fraud come into the network, the advertisers get pissed, they pull the offers, then there is nothing on the network and the money dries up.
It's not rocket science getting into a network, just be honest and as transparent as you can. You can tell a network enough about how you market for them to know that you are a real affiliate without giving away all your secrets / keywords / landing pages / whatever.
Oh, and the phone call IS that important. When a network calls you back, answer the phone. If you don't, it's almost an automatic denial.
It's not rocket science getting into a network, just be honest and as transparent as you can. You can tell a network enough about how you market for them to know that you are a real affiliate without giving away all your secrets / keywords / landing pages / whatever.
Oh, and the phone call IS that important. When a network calls you back, answer the phone. If you don't, it's almost an automatic denial.
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