Dump non traffic site?

markanthony

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HI,

I got a website that doesn't get any searches really, it's just the title isn't searched for in Google. I didn't know about keyword research (still clueless) before i started, so choose something i'm interested in. This was obviously a bad mistake as like I said the keyword I selected is useless.

Should I put anymore time into this site or just scrap it? I know that's quite a broad question but i really don't know if it's worth spending anymore time on it. I'm happy to let people look at it, and give me your opinion.

I've spent 45 pound on it so far, and have about twenty left in my budget, i already have hosting, so I'm thinking the twenty left over would be better used trying to buy some new domains and promote them. Do you think this would be a better strategy?
 


It is possible to rank a domain that does not have keywords in it, just harder. A domain that is aged has a benefit over a new site.

If you can register an EMD, you can 301 the existing site, and place the existing content in the new site.

If you PM me the details, I'll take a look at it.
 
Hi Jake,

Really appreciate you having a look, please excuse the attempts at monetization, I have great difficulty picking ads, and it shows.

erm.. I don't think i have the ability to pm yet as I'm a new user.Do you have some sort of other way i can send you my website link, like facebook or twitter, I've set them up for the site so that would work.
 
I prefer to protect my contact info.

You need to make some more posts to get the ability to PM. Careful not to post garbage or you will be banned. Post questions in newbie section, or engage in real conversation with in shoot-the-shit section.

You should read the guides, for etiquette and basic SEO knowledge.
 
Hi Jake,

Will give you a PM when I have the ability to message, if by that time your too busy, no problem, appreciated your offer of help.

I only have a couple of articles, but they are optimized I think, seo presser has them at about 80%.

I have some more I've written I could publish, but they might be wasted on that website, who knows, I'll have a think about.
 
Definitely if yu have more websites that earn $3 a day would be better, but think on the content you will need, more sites, more content, more time.

But answering your question: Yes if you have $20 you'd better invest in buying two domains more. Twenty theme and some wordrpess plugins work fine.
 
Hi Markanthony

The way I look at it is this - youve already sunk 45 quid into the name and hosting and what not... Probably spent a fair amount of time potentially on backlinking the domain.

I think of sites as real estate - they may not be getting traffic but they can always be monetised. Try and get the PR up and then sell blogroll links - aged domains with PR pass plenty link juice - so my suggestions is if you have the money to keep it - do so...
 
Thanks for the replies, I probably will keep it now.

The domain is registered for two years. I have the hosting space too. So it's probably a no brainer. I'm that much of a noob though if I knew how to try and rank it for different relevant keywords i could probably get traffic to it.

I've been trying to read as much as possible, but it's like a brain overload. That and I don't really know what I'm doing when it comes to ads, I added a clickbank product as it was instant approval, but it looks spammy to me, and the site it links too, looks spammy too. Think i might remove it, but it was the best of a bad bunch.

I actually followed a guide I read somewhere about blogger and started a site two days ago, checked this morning and had twenty visitors. Put a couple of ads on that which where relevant, but no conversions. So some ding dong free blog I made in half an hour wasted my domain that I spent a lot of time on Saying that I learned a lot though.

So I've got twenty bucks left and I'm just going to really need to figure out keyword research and buy another two domains. I keep seeing people say things like 14000 monthly searches and little competition, I'm sitting thinking wtf i just spent the last day trying to find something like that and seeing nothing like it. Curse of a beginner I suppose.

Anyway, thanks again.
 
Hi, I'm looking at your site. In addition to what has already been said, here are some comments.

Visually it's OK. Google doesn't have eyes, but people do. So the visual usability etc is important for monetizing.

The big picture is that you are in a highly competitive niche, health & fitness, because so many people want to sell potions and pills to gullible people.. To really compete for the high-search high-revenue keywords, you will need every tool that can help, including an EMD. You would have to have tons of great content and spend time and money on link building etc.. Bigger dollars require bigger resources.

Another approach is to rank for many low-search keywords. Some of these keywords can still generate revenue, but they are less competitive because of the low traffic. For this to work, you need a lot of good content, so that you can rank for a high volume of lower searched keywords. Your income will probably amount to pennies per keyword, but you will have many keywords.. The problem is that good content costs money, so it's difficult to have a ROI without compromising on quality. You might be able to get user-created content as in a forum. In this model, the EMD is less significant, because there are so many keywords involved. Your domain is OK for this since it has the words body and build etc.

As you can tell, all of these options are considerable commitments, no easy money when there is high competition!

Back to your original question, should you dump a low-searched site? It depends on what you want for your effort, and whether the above options appeal to you.

A totally different approach is to dump the entire niche. Switch to something better. Perhaps a series micro-niche websites, for better keywords? You would have to learn how to research keywords, how to rank for them, how to monetize etc.. This is my preference, partly because I already have the skills. Also, your risk and commitment for any one site is less, it's distributed more.

No-once can really choose for you, only you can decide. I hope this perspective is helpful.
 
Ok you have a site with no traffic now what? Drive some traffic to it! You can't totally rely on on-page seo to get traffic to your site(s). What you have to do here is decide what direction you want to go. I think it is almost a given to build a social network around your niche nowadays, that almost guarantees some traffic to your site everytime you make a new post. Let's say you build a network of 5k people around it and eveytime you make a new post or add new content 10% of those people visit your site. That's 500 people a day min per day with just 1 new post. Most people would say post 2-5 times per day on your blog. Do the math, and hope it helps.

And, I would keep the site and work on driving more traffic or else you run into the same problem with a new domain. You learn by doing so take action!
 
Really appreciate you taking the time to view the site Jake. Thanks for your detailed reply too. As i said i picked that particular name as I had no experience with keyword research, I'll definitely do things different this time around.

Everything you said made sense and the more i read the more it confirms your analysis, thanks again.

Hi affiliate kingdom,

Thanks for the reply. I made sure not long after I started to link the site to twitter, FB, other places like reddit, stumble etc. I made sure google got a chance to index the content then posted on these sites. I feel I have taken action, but in such a competitive area, was it worth the time and resources spent to keep on pursuing it. That's why I posted the thread, Jake was kind enough to look at it for me, and I think his reply summed up what I felt was the conclusion I was approaching.

As I mentioned above just as a test really, I started a blog and tried to make a good effort at keyword research, that lead me to a scrappy looking blog, with being honest not great content. beating my Domain in visitors ten to one.

With all the reading I've been getting through these last weeks, I see my error now. I should have never started a site if I had intentions of monetizing at one point, unless it was purely a personal pleasure.

Research 1st
site 2nd

Thanks to all those who replied.
 
I've been thinking about your domain name.. This is totally off the wall, but if I had a serious interest in this niche, I might make a video product and info-book, then set it up in an affiliate plan like Clickbank. Your domain name has some appeal as a brand, though it is not a searched term. You may be able to draw traffic via affiliates, rather than Google-SEO. If the product was profitable/viable, you might later register some EMD domains to emulate your affiliates, capture traffic that way and send them to your brand-domain.

You would need EMD sites with solid content and backlinks to send readers to the brand domain.

All of the above requires significant commitment of course.

With that said, if you decide to offload the domain, consider giving it a face-lift with the above in mind. Make it look like a domain that sells a niche product, or looks like it could be a great brand product. Just for appearances, make it a site for selling an existing clickbank product (for example). Then see if someone buys it for a brand-domain, or they think they can compete as you did originally. You would not intend to make much revenue via sales. Your intention is to flip the site, so you should limit your cash investment to make it viable.
 
That's a great idea Jake.

I could probably put aside time each night looking at successful affiliate pages on clickbank, then like you say, try and model the site for that purpose. I could even look into freely available clickbank books, and see if I could possibly write something like that myself, based on the knowledge I have, and include that in a proposed sale.