Expired Domains and Pagerank

phoenixrising

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Hey,

Does anyone have any information on how often expired domains drop in PR after you pick them up?

I'm using dropday.com to pick up some expired domains with pr3 or so, and was hoping that if I threw up some backdated wp database backups on there or something and tossed some blog comments at it, the PR would carry through.

Any info would be awesome, thanks.
 


No exact science here. If you can make it look like the site was before it dropped, you may have better luck.
 
Hmm ok - I'd have a hard time making them look exactly as they were before for the project I'm working on, it's blog-based and a lot of the ones I'd be picking up would not be on WP from the get go.

Looks like I may have to do some experimenting.
 
Reasons for drop of PR of expired domain is unknown, but some reasons like new site design, new content and new IP may effect.
 
Well, this is a real bummer then. I guess my only option is to pick up current domains by messaging people who have them? I've thought about it, but can't figure out how to identify lots of them at once.
 
i've bought some expiring domains from dropday that have kept their PR. Just make sure the site is indexed and the backlinks are there to stay!
 
Hmm ok - I'd have a hard time making them look exactly as they were before for the project I'm working on, it's blog-based and a lot of the ones I'd be picking up would not be on WP from the get go.

Looks like I may have to do some experimenting.

2 ways to go about it:

waybackmachine.org
site:example.com

If you run the latter the cached pages come up that are still in Big G´s index. Just make sure you click on the "cached" link.
 
Use whois dot domaintools dot com to see if the domain was droppped. Use rankchecker to make sure the PR is not faked. Use SEO spyglass to see which links are giving it the PR that you have and determine if they are likely to stick. Use link juice keeper to send all link juice to the front page. Voila you now have a domain ready for high pr homepage backlink service. Before you bid on a domain use the process above and you'll never have to worry about PR dropping.
 
Awesome, thanks for the tip massive market.

1. Whois.domaintools.com
2. Rankchecker
3. SEO Spyglass -> determine if links are going to stay
4. Link juice keeper to 301 them to the homepage so they all stay
5. ???
6. Profit

Have you done this yourself massivemarket?
 
2 ways to go about it:

waybackmachine.org
site:example.com

If you run the latter the cached pages come up that are still in Big G´s index. Just make sure you click on the "cached" link.

Yea, I know about the caching and wayback, but if I'm loading up a new CMS and content on it, that wouldn't help too much :)
 
I have yet to see a case where an expired domain doesn't lose PR.

ignore this

Hmm ok - I'd have a hard time making them look exactly as they were before for the project I'm working on, it's blog-based and a lot of the ones I'd be picking up would not be on WP from the get go.

Looks like I may have to do some experimenting.

The trick here is to make bots think as little is going on as possible. things like DNS changes, ownership changes, IP change are what waves flags for sure. Content /might/ raise a flag if other indicators are present, but really, sites change tehir content and templates all the time. there's nothing odd here from a bot's point of view. It's different, yes, but that will effect it's serps and not the external PR.

Best practice is to buy direct from auction or whatever and get the person to keep hosting as is for a month, less signals that ownership change is happening.

So transfer domain month 1
move same html to new hosting month 2 (or preferrably keep it where it is but new account)
change html to new site month 3

... when everything changes at once it's likely to be reevaluated algorithmically, so drip feed it.

I don't have any hard facts to support the above, just experience buying dozens of dropped domains in my time.
 
Hey erect,

Thanks for the information. Good point about the bots, for some reason didn't think to think of it from their (the only one that matters) pov. Sounds like a bit of a long process to get them to stay up in PR, but definitely worth it if it's going to increase the likelihood by a large %.

Thanks again - will give that method a shot, as well as some of the others in here.
 
My process:
1. Domain face to search PR domains
1. Whois.domaintools.com to see if it was dropped
2. Rankchecker to check valid page rank
3. SEO Spyglass -> determine if links are going to stay
4. Unique WP theme with Link juice keeper.
5. SEOHosting with unique everything.
6. Profit

Even though domain face has a search function to remove fake pagerank, its not very good. Always go through the process to make sure you have a solid domain.

The only content I add is the clients link with relevant content around that.

Yes I have done this and am in the process of building a new network. Should be ready in 2 months and will have 30 PR domains which I will advertise here :-)