From Affiliate to E-Commerce Mogul - The Real Secrets To E-Commerce

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ha ha so lame written by noob for noobs

this is why businesses fail and are a waste of moeny

to much start up costs and work involved

Also the advice given here is so obvious as well it isn't useful unless you have never heard of the internets before.
 
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Good article! 5 years ago I found a product I really liked and saw a market for. I found out that the affiliate program for the item would pay me $6.00 per sale. Then I found out if I started ordering the item wholesale and reselling it myself, I could make $25+ per sale depending on the size of my wholesale order. I've been importing the item in bulk and reselling it ever since.

If anyone has the discipline to handle a few customer inquiries, process and mail out orders, and make sure they are always stocked, e-commerce is a great way to make money :)
 
Deliguy said:
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great post. you have a great blog that i enjoy reading, but that was a very good and insightful post on ecommerce. i would disagree with some aspects regarding the "foodchain" that you introduced in the beginning of your post, but that's just something one could argue over a whole night and still have no agreement about ;)

no doubt. the best money is to be made when you own and control the whole process. however, this goes inline with taking up a lot of responsibility and it is not necessarily the easiest way.

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Sayeed said:
ha ha so lame written by noob for noobs
this is why businesses fail and are a waste of moeny
to much start up costs and work involved
Also the advice given here is so obvious as well it isn't useful unless you have never heard of the internets before.
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how can anyone take pride in displaying his incompetency and ignorance like you do? you must be troll in disguise. i just can't believe that any real person can be that dumb.
 
Thanks guys I appreciate it.

Sayeed said:
ha ha so lame written by noob for noobs

this is why businesses fail and are a waste of moeny

to much start up costs and work involved

Also the advice given here is so obvious as well it isn't useful unless you have never heard of the internets before.
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This from an ebook dork?
 
I wouldn't do e-commerce again for anything... Merchant accounts are a PITA, fraud is a PITA, customers are a PITA, shipping is a PITA, and everything else is a PITA (compared to other online money-generating activities, of course).

Nice write up, though. :)

Laura
 
Sayeed said:
ha ha so lame written by noob for noobs

this is why businesses fail and are a waste of moeny

to much start up costs and work involved

Also the advice given here is so obvious as well it isn't useful unless you have never heard of the internets before.
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try reading deliguy's blog and then tell me if you still think he's a noob.
 
Deliguy,

I usually enjoy reading your blog, but this just didn't do it for me. For one, this article is written from the style of taking brick and mortar online. That is not thinking outside of the box. There are tons of ecommerce things you can do online without having an inventory or even worrying about offline competition.

As for Newegg, I love them, but they were once the little guy. I've been using them since their beginning. I believe there is always room for a competitor to come in and do you one better, but it's not about the online business, it's about the business system processes that supports the online ecommerce. Newegg and Dell have that down pat and have been able to make a name for themselves because of it. There is no reason why someone else couldn't come along and do the same.
 
Atomm said:
Deliguy,

I usually enjoy reading your blog, but this just didn't do it for me. For one, this article is written from the style of taking brick and mortar online. That is not thinking outside of the box. There are tons of ecommerce things you can do online without having an inventory or even worrying about offline competition.

As for Newegg, I love them, but they were once the little guy. I've been using them since their beginning. I believe there is always room for a competitor to come in and do you one better, but it's not about the online business, it's about the business system processes that supports the online ecommerce. Newegg and Dell have that down pat and have been able to make a name for themselves because of it. There is no reason why someone else couldn't come along and do the same.
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Thanks very much for your input. I actually couldn't agree with you more. The post could go both ways depending on the audience's experience. A newbie that doesn't really understand could just read it and clap idiotically. However a person that is actually in the process of attempting to go into E-commerce will smack their forehead realizing the type of mistakes they were about to make. This is the type of "technique" that can and should be taken very literally. The silver lining in the article is not the step by step explanation, its the inside info on the order you actually do things as well as the example quotes I gave. There's an exact hidden order that everything must be done in and it is only found through constant trial and error. For instance, say you were going after an extremely protected brand like Hitachi. The post says to not even mention the fact that you are looking for drop shipping until you are midway through talking to the distributor. This is soooooo very important. If you call hitachi and ask for a distributor that is willing to drop ship for you the receptionist as well as the regional manager will just kind of giggle and politely tell you no then send you back to the phone menu. It takes three to four very hard to swollow failures and busted potential business relations before you learn exactly when to mention you need the drop shipping done. It's the little details like how to ask for drop shipping, don't just ask the guy if he can drop ship for you. Ask him to drop ship for you after he's already trying to sell you. It's all in the way you present your case and handle yourself, which is yes, much like how BNM businesses act.

This is exactly how Newegg started out actually. They originally were a small computer store in Eugene Oregon called Egg Head Computers (I'm from Roseburg Oregon. Can you guess how long i've been a customer?..hehe). They then started selling online. Of course they couldn't carry all that inventory in their tiny store (yes it was tiny), but they did use their preexisting distributor relations to convince them to drop ship to their online customers. You are definitely right, this is not a new game I'm talking about nor is it creative, but when you go to actually experience it or if you already have; then you start to notice the little stuff that really saves a whole ton of headaches later on. One of the reasons I enjoyed writing this post so much, and why its so long, is because its one of those wishful thinkings that we all have occasionally, "If I only knew then what I know now."
 
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I thought it was a good post, but for someone who wants to try dropshipping to American households halfway across the globe, this technique doesn't fit.

I am in no way implying this doesn't work. I think this IS the way to go if you can do it. I'm just saying this won't fit everyone / every situation.

Now for dropshipping/blind dropshipping ... which service do you recommend?

You mentioned one in the article, but reading on, I didn't know if you'd still recommend them.

Thanks,

::emp::
 
Deliguy said:
don't just ask the guy if he can drop ship for you. Ask him to drop ship for you after he's already trying to sell you.
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i thought the article was comprehensive but just okay. your post here really seasoned it nicely. taken together it's great b-school level material. well done.
 
Every post you have ever written anywhere has some of our projects attached to it..referenced blindy....... If only everyone knew how much crap we actually spew out onto the internet.. Hehe

We've done a few of these straight from the distributor->consumer type projects. Tons of work, lines change often its extremely time consuming. Generally there are no datafeeds or any organized product lists.. There's these nice 2-3' thick catalogs that house all of the products by a inter/national distributor.
 
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