Not a newbie but made newbie mistake and got banned from google (promoting site with pop-up) long story short trying to get back in. I know there is way just don’t know how…got new internet connection new router new pc and nothing in my name and still got caught. Don’t know crap about IP and how it is tracked and how they could possible figure it out. I am figuring next to viritual IP remote PC something like that any other suggestions or someone who can PM me how they got back?!?!
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New IP, new name, new address, new credit card, clear cookies - just using a new browser is easiest, new email, new hosting IP, new domains will do the job, also make sure your first new campaign new make is legit as they tend to manually review new accounts.
From what I hear, new card + new IP + new name/address + different computer (maybe?) = golden. There's really no other way to pose yourself as a completely different person.
Don't mean to jack the thread here, but does anyone know if Google confirms the billing/contact info with what's on the card? I just got banned and have a new debit card coming, but it's still in my name. I could use different info but it wouldn't match up with the card.
Don't mean to jack the thread here, but does anyone know if Google confirms the billing/contact info with what's on the card? I just got banned and have a new debit card coming, but it's still in my name. I could use different info but it wouldn't match up with the card.
@roman: Didnt work for me but I was spending more than 10K a day and my bank didnt like that someone was asking for all that money with the wrong information..... I can insure you new card new ip new name and adress and new computer does not cut it but I didnt use new proxy !!
So you did or did not have a different IP than before? I don't know why new *everything* wouldn't work, because Google has no other way to tell if you're the same person. If you do all those things, you should look like a completely different person in another part of the world.
iirc anyone is only able to verify digits in your card address. you could replace 1234 sycamore st with 1234 dicktard ln. make sure the zip code is the same too
I'm not banned, but when I make new accounts under MCC I use a new name & address but same CC but with a new billing name & address.. only the zip is the same, as CC co' checks only zip.
Where I think a lot of ppl fall over, even though they've taken all precautions, is they log into an old google linked account like gmail or youtube, or use same computer that had a google app on it like AWE, which can send back a lot of info about your h/ware setup. A cheap laptop/VPN or RDP into a friends computer is one way to avoid h/ware finger print.
Where I think a lot of ppl fall over, even though they've taken all precautions, is they log into an old google linked account like gmail or youtube, or use same computer that had a google app on it like AWE, which can send back a lot of info about your h/ware setup. A cheap laptop/VPN or RDP into a friends computer is one way to avoid h/ware finger print.
Something is not adding up.
To listen to many of you, you seem to suggest that if an innocent person set up an account and was happily running adwords with their name, CC, address and computer and then they logged in from a friend's computer two months later whom had been banned, that Google would automatically ban the innocent person's account.
Is this what you are seriously suggesting? This must certainly not be the case.
I too have done most of those things mentioned by others to avoid detection, but have been detected. I tend to think that even if you change the name on the card that you give to Google or EVEN if you create a company business account but the account is still under your name as sole proprietor, that there is someway from Google billing to call this info back from the bank for verification. However, if you have a friend create the account, with their name and their card and their address, then thats a different story.
I really don't know for sure, but the scenario I pose above is impossible to imagine.
To listen to many of you, you seem to suggest that if an innocent person set up an account and was happily running adwords with their name, CC, address and computer and then they logged in from a friend's computer two months later whom had been banned, that Google would automatically ban the innocent person's account.
Is this what you are seriously suggesting? This must certainly not be the case.
I too have done most of those things mentioned by others to avoid detection, but have been detected. I tend to think that even if you change the name on the card that you give to Google or EVEN if you create a company business account but the account is still under your name as sole proprietor, that there is someway from Google billing to call this info back from the bank for verification. However, if you have a friend create the account, with their name and their card and their address, then thats a different story.
I really don't know for sure, but the scenario I pose above is impossible to imagine.
@windjc: Did log into my adwords account from a friends house( more than once) his accounts were shut down just as FYI to be careful with logging into to your accounts from other peoples PC's and no did not create llc with my name in it created new account with "different" friends name who doesnt even know adwords exist and used their credit card and address and still was caught
@dombocom: No that seems like a stupid move...only accessed new adwords account and new email account create that was it...
@johnjass: No idea what OP is but was not running any rebill or black hat stuff
@dombocom: No that seems like a stupid move...only accessed new adwords account and new email account create that was it...
@johnjass: No idea what OP is but was not running any rebill or black hat stuff
When you access Google from the web, all it can check is your IP address, your cookies for all Google-owned domains (i.e. YouTube & Picasa count), and your Flash Local Storage (clear it at Adobe - Flash Player : Settings Manager - Global Privacy Settings Panel). You don't need a new PC or router or Internet connection -- just to dump all your cookies & your Flash Local Storage, then go through a proxy.
If you run AdWords Editor, on the other hand, it collects all sorts of info about your PC, including the serial number on your hard disk, so to clean that up you need either a new PC or to use a VM. But as long as you only use the web site, IP+cookies+Flash is all you need to change.
Of course, that's just technical tracking mechanisms. Where most people screw up is not in the things Google tracks, but the info we flat out give them. Name, address, billing info are the obvious ones, but they also ban domains like crazy. If you're linking through the same Prosper202 domain, or directing traffic to any of the same domains, they'll catch that instantly.
When I was working with Google Base, once they banned an account I couldn't even link to a domain that contained images from one of my banned domains, or which contained links to my Prosper install, unless I changed those domain names. Otherwise the new domains & accounts would be banned instantly. I wouldn't be surprised if they do something similar w/AdWords.
If you run AdWords Editor, on the other hand, it collects all sorts of info about your PC, including the serial number on your hard disk, so to clean that up you need either a new PC or to use a VM. But as long as you only use the web site, IP+cookies+Flash is all you need to change.
Of course, that's just technical tracking mechanisms. Where most people screw up is not in the things Google tracks, but the info we flat out give them. Name, address, billing info are the obvious ones, but they also ban domains like crazy. If you're linking through the same Prosper202 domain, or directing traffic to any of the same domains, they'll catch that instantly.
When I was working with Google Base, once they banned an account I couldn't even link to a domain that contained images from one of my banned domains, or which contained links to my Prosper install, unless I changed those domain names. Otherwise the new domains & accounts would be banned instantly. I wouldn't be surprised if they do something similar w/AdWords.