Google banned

When you access Google from the web, all it can check is your IP address, your cookies for all Google-owned domains (i.e. YouTube & Picasa count), and your Flash Local Storage (clear it at Adobe - Flash Player : Settings Manager - Global Privacy Settings Panel). You don't need a new PC or router or Internet connection -- just to dump all your cookies & your Flash Local Storage, then go through a proxy.

If you run AdWords Editor, on the other hand, it collects all sorts of info about your PC, including the serial number on your hard disk, so to clean that up you need either a new PC or to use a VM. But as long as you only use the web site, IP+cookies+Flash is all you need to change.

Of course, that's just technical tracking mechanisms. Where most people screw up is not in the things Google tracks, but the info we flat out give them. Name, address, billing info are the obvious ones, but they also ban domains like crazy. If you're linking through the same Prosper202 domain, or directing traffic to any of the same domains, they'll catch that instantly.

When I was working with Google Base, once they banned an account I couldn't even link to a domain that contained images from one of my banned domains, or which contained links to my Prosper install, unless I changed those domain names. Otherwise the new domains & accounts would be banned instantly. I wouldn't be surprised if they do something similar w/AdWords.


Good info. But how do you know if a proxy is clean? Whats to keep a proxy from being banned from some other nefarious users use of it.
 


Just a thought, there must be some way to verify someone's name / address just by CC number. Have any of you ever used one of those self-checkin machines at the airport? They just ask you to swipe your CC for identity verification.

Unless the actual magnetic strip has your name and other info.
 
Something is not adding up.

To listen to many of you, you seem to suggest that if an innocent person set up an account and was happily running adwords with their name, CC, address and computer and then they logged in from a friend's computer two months later whom had been banned, that Google would automatically ban the innocent person's account.

Is this what you are seriously suggesting? This must certainly not be the case.

This is in fact the case. I personally know a few business owners I use to work with who all live in Brooklyn. One of them visited the others office for lunch one day and simply LOGGED INTO HIS GMAIL from there. Neither was banned yet but big G did link up their adwords accounts just from that. Several months later when his buddy's adwords account got banned his automatically got banned as well and it was because they linked those accounts.

I also had a completely legit adwords account (the only thing I ever used it for was to promote my web design company at the time) banned along with one of my old clients because they linked us up due to me logging into their adwords account one day from my IP. I called them no less than 10 times and pleaded my case (I mean I was a fucking consultant for many cliens and of course I had to log into their adwords account to help them) and they didn't want to hear it, they basically said "no soup for you, not go take a hike douchebag".
 
Just a thought, there must be some way to verify someone's name / address just by CC number. Have any of you ever used one of those self-checkin machines at the airport? They just ask you to swipe your CC for identity verification.

Unless the actual magnetic strip has your name and other info.

the mag stripe has all that information on it. credit card automatic avs can only verify numbers. remember numbers can't be misspelled, also i'm 99% sure they do browser fingerprinting so proxy alone might not work.
 
I'm not banned, but when I make new accounts under MCC I use a new name & address but same CC but with a new billing name & address.. only the zip is the same, as CC co' checks only zip.

Where I think a lot of ppl fall over, even though they've taken all precautions, is they log into an old google linked account like gmail or youtube, or use same computer that had a google app on it like AWE, which can send back a lot of info about your h/ware setup. A cheap laptop/VPN or RDP into a friends computer is one way to avoid h/ware finger print.
Credit card companies check anything with a number pretty much. Zip code AND street address digits in most cases.
 
When you access Google from the web, all it can check is your IP address, your cookies for all Google-owned domains (i.e. YouTube & Picasa count), and your Flash Local Storage (clear it at Adobe - Flash Player : Settings Manager - Global Privacy Settings Panel). You don't need a new PC or router or Internet connection -- just to dump all your cookies & your Flash Local Storage, then go through a proxy.

Sorry, not enough. Try this:
https://panopticlick.eff.org/

Not sure if G uses that or similar techniques, but it's likely.
 
I am almost mildy surprised that some disgruntled affiliate hasn't flown a plane in Google Corporate yet.
 
I am almost mildy surprised that some disgruntled affiliate hasn't flown a plane in Google Corporate yet.

Exactly, I've mentioned this a few times to friends, that it wouldn't surprise me one bit to hear on the news one day that some ex advertiser has gone postal at some G complex.

On the Adwords Help forums (there's a misnomer if ever there was one), there's actually been cases of people saying suicide is their only option because of G's antics. As stupid as that sounds, those forums seem awash with desperation from advertisers or potential advertisers. Quite the depressing place to visit.
 
Exactly, I've mentioned this a few times to friends, that it wouldn't surprise me one bit to hear on the news one day that some ex advertiser has gone postal at some G complex.

On the Adwords Help forums (there's a misnomer if ever there was one), there's actually been cases of people saying suicide is their only option because of G's antics. As stupid as that sounds, those forums seem awash with desperation from advertisers or potential advertisers. Quite the depressing place to visit.

One day Google will be forced to change and become more customer service related or they will lose the ultimate battle in E-commerce/advertising supremacy.

I know its common opinion that Google doesn't need to care. And that's true currently.

But part of that is because Google doesn't have a large customer presence yet. For instance if you asked 99.5% of Americans what their opinion of Google customer service was, they wouldn't have an opinion. This is a testimony of how little of player Google is in markets that effect most everybody's daily lives.

But the world changes. One day, internet commerce will be 100x what it is today. One day, someone is going to capture the 85% of the web thats not indexed. One day, Google is going to finally expand into some technology masses may be interested in (like Apple has).

Then Google will have a customer service reputation that will expand to the opinions of 100's of millions, not just a hundred thousand.

Google will have to change or they will one day suffer.

Imagine if McDonalds or Apple treated customers like Google does? Lol. There would be a mockery of these companies on the radio, talk shows, newspapers, news reports.

As giant as Google is I would not be at all surprised to see them falter along the way and be surpassed by an unforeseen entity. I mean who would have thought that IBM would have been dwarfed by Bill Gates. The world evolves.

Also, it is a popular opinion that Google does everything because they are just "smarter" than all us and they just "can" and we have "no idea" what there enormous plans for world domination are.

I think people forget that Google is run by humans. I am not so quick to think that their choice to create a written procedure for business clients to follow instead of person-to-person customer service was a brilliant decision by brilliant minds. I think it was a stupid decision by people who don't understand human interaction very well.

HUGE mistakes are made everyday at some of the most "successful" companies board rooms and lower high level command positions. Google has made some colossal ones, IMO. We may not see the direct effects of them now, but time will tell.

The mistakes the GM exectives made 25 years ago didn't put their company in bankruptcy for 25 years. Ironically, GM was doing the best it had in 25 years (efficiency and quality wise) when it filed for bankruptcy. The mistakes took a long time to be felt, but once they did, the company couldn't save itself.

I'm not saying that Google is GM or ever will be. All I'm saying is that Google isn't as BRILLIANT as everyone wants to say they are and that there will come a time when they will have to become customer service related or they will suffer greatly.