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affiliatearmy

affiliatearmy

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Anyone know why google slaps? Is it due to inadequate CTR's/performance or?
Best way to AVOID a slap? I know how to re-up a campaign and get impressions again, but prefer to avoid this shit as much as possible.
thx!
 


unfadable858 said:
if u promote rebills or scammy stuff

or bridge pages.
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So what is the difference between a Landing page and a bridge page?
Is a Flog a Bridge page?

so then how do you have a bridge page without it looking like a bridge page.

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^^^^
this does look like my current traffic situation with adwords.

looking for some insights into this too, affiliatearmy. bing and yahoo are doing well but i'm definitely missing the google traffic.

google isn't worth the roe (return on effort) until the barrage of slaps can be ducked more effectively.
 
Simply avoid flogs and minisites or bridge pages. I think this is only the beginning of all the slaps on those scam offers floating around.

Go with a site including:
- privacy
- terms of use
- contact
- about us

Use as much transparency as possible on those sites, especially on the about us/contact. Prevent private registration as google can still see your data as registrar.

Yes guys even PPC marketing requires quite a bit of work now...
 
Xdreamer said:
Simply avoid flogs and minisites or bridge pages. I think this is only the beginning of all the slaps on those scam offers floating around.

Go with a site including:
- privacy
- terms of use
- contact
- about us
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mr safety:

but then what exactly is a landing page supposed to look like if its not a flog, minisite or bridge page?

Maybe I skipped that part of school?

Does it mean its the same thing, but with links to PP,TOU,Contact, About?
 
Its supposed to be a site of valuable information such as a review site or a real product page (not the kinda sales page look and feel). Its my experience of past ran campaigns on google so its up to you how you want to handle it ;-)
 
Xdreamer said:
Its supposed to be a site of valuable information such as a review site or a real product page (not the kinda sales page look and feel). Its my experience of past ran campaigns on google so its up to you how you want to handle it ;-)
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If it were that easy i'd be rich. I have several sites with over 500 pages of unique written content, very valuable information to the user, etc. Privacy, contact us, blah blah blah ... been doing this for many years also ... bottom line is if you are an affiliate of someone else, and Google finds out, your ass is getting slapped, I don't give a shit how big and great your site is.
 
stussy5555 said:
If it were that easy i'd be rich. I have several sites with over 500 pages of unique written content, very valuable information to the user, etc. Privacy, contact us, blah blah blah ... been doing this for many years also ... bottom line is if you are an affiliate of someone else, and Google finds out, your ass is getting slapped, I don't give a shit how big and great your site is.
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ditto. G doesnt like affiliates.
 
stussy5555 said:
If it were that easy i'd be rich. I have several sites with over 500 pages of unique written content, very valuable information to the user, etc. Privacy, contact us, blah blah blah ... been doing this for many years also ... bottom line is if you are an affiliate of someone else, and Google finds out, your ass is getting slapped, I don't give a shit how big and great your site is.
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amen

I used to never understand why google would want to slap someone who is generating some much revenue for them. To me it was such a stupid business move. Then I found out that google is making $61,000,000 per day from adwords revenue. :eek:

They don't give a damn about some guy spending 10K or 15K a day with them. It's a drop in the bucket and they care more about "quality" i guess. It's bad enough that adwords support is pretty much non existant and that most affiliates are afraid to even contact them in fear of making things worse. I've seen simple questions posted on the adwords support board and the next post is that sorry youve been banned.

Still need em though..
 
NormanNormal said:
amen

I used to never understand why google would want to slap someone who is generating some much revenue for them. To me it was such a stupid business move. Then I found out that google is making $61,000,000 per day from adwords revenue. :eek:

They don't give a damn about some guy spending 10K or 15K a day with them. It's a drop in the bucket and they care more about "quality" i guess. It's bad enough that adwords support is pretty much non existant and that most affiliates are afraid to even contact them in fear of making things worse. I've seen simple questions posted on the adwords support board and the next post is that sorry youve been banned.

Still need em though..
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Quality is very subjective. I have full fledge affiliate sites advertising through Adwords that generate hundreds/thousands of conversions, so to me, they must add some value or people wouldn't buy shit from my site. It really doesn't make sense honestly.

You definitely don't "need em" although it helps ;-)
 
stussy5555 said:
Quality is very subjective. I have full fledge affiliate sites advertising through Adwords that generate hundreds/thousands of conversions, so to me, they must add some value or people wouldn't buy shit from my site. It really doesn't make sense honestly.

You definitely don't "need em" although it helps ;-)
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We'll to be fair just because you are getting conversions doesn't mean that you are actually adding any value. Look at all these scammy rebill offers that generate tens of thousands of conversions a day. I wouldn't exactly call those "adding value".
 
stussy5555 said:
must add some value
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In some niches if you ad "some value" to your sites that G would like it, it just wouldn't convert. Because you need to SELL things but not to give some "valuable info". There are info sites for that purpose. But when you make a site that sells (converts) google slaps it. Shit. I don't get them.

In the learning center they give you tips of how to make your ads and site to convert. They say: "make a LP which gives customers what they were looking for - make it relevant to your ads and don't forget customers experience!".

Then you follow their tips and here's an outcome:
  • your kws gets QS 10 - this means G likes your site, ads and LP
  • your CTR is high - this means you have really good ads
  • your conversions is veryyy high - this means your customers have a reallyyyy gooood experiance
And entually you get slapped!!!! Where's the fuckin problem???

P.S. I'm not talking about rebills, just regular CPA offers.

To my mind there is only one explanation: they slap you when they find out that your'e an affiliate. And the reason is that affiliates optimize their campaigns to the maximum. So they have much lower costs than the parent advertisers. I think G wants to collect much more money by eliminating intermediaries - us the affiliates.
 
another thing, how much "value" does google provide when people type things like "facebook.com" in their search engine, yet people continue to do it.

if this is the case do people really dislike bridge pages? isn't this just the process of surfing?
 
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