HerbalRevenue.com Closed with Thousands of Dollars in Pending Payouts



Tis' the season for fucked payments it seems. It aint time for Santa Claus yet we have one telling shit to affs concerned about their money.
 
Tried 411.com ?

I am new to this forum, but I also have been stiffed by Herbal Revenue, Fast Size LLC and Brian Walter. Has anyone heard from Brian Walter or his partner in fraud Brad Madiuk? They kept on pushing me for more leads and promised payment right up to the second it was due to us. Total pieces of shits! Can anyone sniff out their home addresses, phone numbers or personal info?

I would like to pay them a personal visit to discuss settlement of my account.

Regards,

JT
 
Also I am completely unsure why everyone is coming to forums going crazy over payment. I got the same email everyone did regarding payment. Seems like everyone is going to get paid, some even were sent an owings report from what I know. So everyone flipping out and now making threats is very confusing. Seems everything is being taken care of.

because many people here are smart enough to realize that a) having a company admit that they owe you something but go bankrupt by conveniently closing up well structured corporations means absolutely nothing, and b) many companies in the past who fronted like they had all kinds of cash/capital were living on revolving credit so even when you bother to sue the 'balling' founder you find out he's gone back to work for $70k/year as an affiliate manager somewhere and is driving a 10 year old BMW with big rims on it.

so until people ARE paid I don't think it seems like anything is happening except that people are getting stiffed out of money due to the actions of others totally out of their control.

that's probably why
 
Anyone get paid by these thieves yet? Brad, do you have updates that we might not have regarding Brian Walter and Fast Size?

J
 
As far as I know no one has heard anything from anyone at Herbal Revenue. It looks like they are still processing sales, just not rebills!
 
New update from Herbal Revenue. Looks like 3-4months before they can pay...fucking funny!

Dear affiliates,

As you are now aware, effective May 7th, 2010 we were forced to close down the Herbal Revenue affiliate program. As was mentioned in our previous affiliate notice, due to the circumstances surrounding the termination of our credit card processing, we were able to process transactions for the greater part of April, but all of the settlements themselves were held on reserve to offset trailing refunds and chargebacks. Regrettably, due to legal restrictions, and the overall credit card processing for continuity products and male enhancement products in general, we have not been able to re-acquire any form of stable credit card processing backup. To avoid any additional sanctions from Visa/MC we have elected to manually un-enroll all of our Preferred customers, and therefore will be able to make outstanding affiliate commissions in approximately 90-120 days when our reserve funds are released. We apologize for any inconvenience this delay may cause, but we remain focused on honoring our affiliates' commissions, as well as finding a long-term solution to be able to earn your traffic again in the future. In the meantime, feel free to send any questions to accounting@herbalrevenue.com, and we will provide any updates as they become available.

Best regards,

Support
HerbalRevenue
 
you've obviously never worked with merchant accounts before. they have to wait 3-4 months to send them the money because the merchant processor doesnt want to be liable for paying chargebacks for your account. they hold you money and wait until the consumer can no long charge back. once that happens they send you your money
 
pretty funny to see how they are not able to float the amount of affiliate comissions until they get the money out of the frozen MID.

Probably by then 50% will have forgotten about their $1000 in revenue and they get to make even more profit. smart.
 
@redwing - Working with merchant accounts was never the point dude. Why run an affiliate program if you can't float the bills?

Don't talk shit man when this shouldn't even have occurred in the first place. If YOU worked with merchant accounts you would know that Herbal Revenue was stupid with the processing options they had based on the notice/reason they gave for shutting down.
 
@redwing - Working with merchant accounts was never the point dude. Why run an affiliate program if you can't float the bills?

Don't talk shit man when this shouldn't even have occurred in the first place. If YOU worked with merchant accounts you would know that Herbal Revenue was stupid with the processing options they had based on the notice/reason they gave for shutting down.

dude they didn't know what they were getting into... oh WAIT I just remembered how I warned Brian many times in January and February that they were gonna get shut down...
 
@redwing - Working with merchant accounts was never the point dude. Why run an affiliate program if you can't float the bills?

Don't talk shit man when this shouldn't even have occurred in the first place. If YOU worked with merchant accounts you would know that Herbal Revenue was stupid with the processing options they had based on the notice/reason they gave for shutting down.

it'd be insane if they had enough capital to float the bills, because that would be so much money. maybe if they spread it all over 5 accounts and only 1 got shut down they would be able to float for that one. i never denied they were stupid. i have never worked with them so i dont know what exactly they did wrong, but they were dumbasses for no dispersing over multiple merchant accounts
 
Anymore updates from these scamming pieces of shits? Brian or Brad do you have any fresh info for those you have burned?

J
 
Promoting directly with advertisers that own offers is scarier and scarier. Networks are around for a reason.


I'm not sure how to respond to this, so I'll just say that I have guys running direct with ME who will all vouch I pay on time EVERY time. And I'm also able to give ummmm, them higher payout thingys .. SAY WHAT! :xmas-smiley-016:

Not taking anything away from networks though.....
 
This is the point at which any normal, legitimate business owner would take them to court.

What will actually happen? Probably just a few more people will come in and bitch in this thread while taking no real action.