How Do I Get Started in Adult?

[Barefootsies]

1 - what payment methods are accepted on the clipstore?

1. Clip stores accept all major credit cards, and they also have some sort of clips4sale gift card type of thing. My guess is that those who use this prefer their privacy or are from countries where credit cards are not an option or easy to get. There are plenty of 2nd, and third world countries like this.

2 - does the clipstore support other people (vendors) from selling thier stuff on your store (and you taking a cut etc)?

2. Your clip store is yours alone. No one else can sell on your clip store.

Where do I get the content to sell?

3. You can contact me. I have content producers I work with, and broker for. Or I can refer you to some places. Or you can get them from WM forums. You want to make sure your content is licensed. Whether using for your clip store or adult pay site(s). Make sure those you are buying from provide you a license, and 2257 docs.

I can pay for some videos and get access to the download link .

4. Correct. They pick which clip(s) they want. Pay. Then receive an email with a download link.

Do we resell them afterwards or what .. ?

5. No. You have to have licensed clips to sell in your store. Again, it's like running a shopping cart. You buy or license goods to sell in your store. You then market that store, and make sales. Same concept. You license content from a broker or producer. You upload it into your store. You then market it, and get paid.

You can't simply download clips you buy off someone's store, and then turn around and resell them. You need to license material.

 

[Barefootsies]

So basically, I can sell the exact copy of what I bought - modifications ( like cutting it into smaller pieces, dumping it into a series of pictures, etc. ) are not allowed ?
Any recommendations on how many clips would be enough to start with ?

You can't buy from Clips4Sale and then recut and redistribute. No.

You would need to license some content like this.

REMOVED PER JON REQUEST

or this

REMOVED PER JON REQUEST. SEE SIG LINK 4 CONTACT INFO

You would then have licensed material from a content provider. You would then...

1. Compress the clips with your watermark or url.
2. Cut the watermarked clips into segments.
3. Write a description of the scene.
4. Catalog description of the scene in a spreadsheet for later reference.
5. Upload the clips to your clip store.
6. Schedule the update(s).

Most of this you would do before you go to bed. Loading the clips into a program, and watermarking them. Uploading them into your store via FTP. You really only need to be at your computer for the descriptions, scheduling, and maybe cutting segments as that can be done fast without re-compression.

 

[Barefootsies]

Ok. So I need licensed content. Where do I get some? Also, what if my budget is not very much?

Here's the very first thing you should be doing. Planning.
1. Budget for content purchase. How much can you spend?
2. Niches you are interested in. Keep in mind, they are 2nd to availabiltiy.
3. Amount of content. 100/300/500/1000 scenes?
4. If you want pictures and video. Pictures are handy for promotion.

Answering these questions will get you started on narrowing the field. There are many providers out there, and things are going to vary by answering those simple questions.

You do not need HD quality content for a clip store. You can always buy it, but I would advise against it. When you get into HD content, you will want to make sure you have a copy of Sorenson Squeeze. Which makes multiple formats for content during compression.

You do not need exclusive. I have been re-running my fetish content for years. No matter how many times, new or old store, the results are the same again and again. I have been doing this little 'experiment' for years. Always the same. So you can use semi or non exclusive. You can also re-run your content for YEARS.

 

[Barefootsies]

Thank you for posting this thread. I have learned a lot. Can you please explain why you sell 3 minute videos instead of the 10 minute videos ?

I have a logitech 9000 webcam and have been making custom videos for people with that. Is it good enough to sell clips on clipstores?

Hi

With clip stores in general, you do not need an HD camera. I personally think that most clip store people, myself included, are not interested in HD. As they are already at the site, dick in hand, and do not want to be waiting 45 minutes for a download. You can film in HD if you like, and encode for SD to cater to the clip store market as a work around.

HD is nice to have, and give you the option to go up or down on the quality. Where as, you film in SD, and you can't go up. Just get worse or the same. If you can afford it, go HD. If not, short term you can get buy on a cheapo. Look at most of the stores. They appear to shoot in night vision.

You break clips up because some people will buy only a certain piece, but more importantly so you the update 'pop'. One update, one bite. More clips, more bites. The dollar amount is irrelevant. You are looking for those 'pops' on updates and eventually you would be pushing these buying customers to pay site(s).

 

[Barefootsies]

thank you for answering. I think i understand about the clips now. The length is not so important but being able to post a new clip every day is.

Correct.

Also getting those repeated 'pops'. Some people will make multiple versions, or renders, of clips instead of breaking into pieces. It is essentially the same thing.

 

[yuriko]

anyone using zombaio ? the chargebacks are 12.50 ! this sucks.

 

[Midas Touch]

Question about Adult Webmaster Forums.

Hi BF, nice thread.

A while back I decided to start looking into expanding into the adult market. (Just now starting to see a window of time where I can start to seriously check into this.)

Fetishes & Gay mostly, since the customers seem to be willing to pay a higher premium for the content vs. mainstream stuff.


I joined up at GFY Webmaster Board and JustBlowMe.com Adult Webmaster Forum to get a feel for what is going on in the industry. Are these sites decent like here at the Wicked Fire or are they like Digital Point and Warrior Forum? Just asking since I really haven't had the time to go through their sites very much yet.

If they are bogus, can you recommend some decent Adult Forums for Adult Webmasters?


Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

 

[effer]

GFY basically represents the entire adult scene. If you can filter all the crap, you will learn everything/anything you can possibly learn there.

The adult industry is (and will always be) freakin' huge, but the game changes fast...
A lot of people are ignorant of just how much money this industry makes and their influence on the Web in general.

In 2010 it would seem a bit daunting to enter the adult scene from scratch. But if you have a killer niche/talent that you can develop, you'll definitely have a chance of getting noticed.

 

[TylerT833]

I think the main issue would be the fact that people don't really pay for this stuff like they used to. Probably because of the fact that it's so easy to get on the internet for free. I'm anything but an expert in the issue, but that's just my 2 cents, regardless.

 

[NWCougar]

Does anyone have experience with adult toy drop ship stores?

 

[greyhat]

Hi there, thanks for the sweet thread! My brother keeps joking that he wants to launch a porn site with me... Somehow though, i know he actually really does want to! I have a few questions for you if that is OK?

I see free sites where the videos don't have the age disclaimer thing on. Why dont they get taken down if that is illegal?

300 videos would be a big investment for me. Are they any ways to get involved and start learning and earning from the ground up?

I skimmed most of this thread. For me, one answer to the above would be a sort of rev share, did i see this mentioned?

What effect is free porn having on pay sites and how can you keep one step ahead?

WTF is CRANKING?!

Thanks.

 

[NWCougar]

Noob idea warning:

What about an adult toy drop ship store as the main site, with an affiliate to a membership clip site and a blog, connected as tabs to the main toy shop? Sort of an all-in-one porn site?

 

[Barefootsies]

I think the main issue would be the fact that people don't really pay for this stuff like they used to. Probably because of the fact that it's so easy to get on the internet for free. I'm anything but an expert in the issue, but that's just my 2 cents, regardless.

Plenty of people still pay for porn. You just have to find the right niches.
:rasta:

 

[HustlinHard]

Great thread BF, even though I have no interest of entering this industry I definitely enjoy the great info.

As someone else said above me, lot's of people don't fully understand how large the adult industry is and how strongly it effects online marketing (methods) in mainstream as well. The guys doing adult have traditionally been way ahead of the curve.

 

[Spelunking]

I just want to add that I really like the attitude of building something bigger. Not satisfied with selling stuff for others but wanting to create and sell your own stuff.

 

[theentry]

I see free sites where the videos don't have the age disclaimer thing on. Why dont they get taken down if that is illegal?

Warning pages aren't a must, I also don't bother to add them.

300 videos would be a big investment for me. Are they any ways to get involved and start learning and earning from the ground up?

You can easily start by building wordpress blogs and selling memberships.

What effect is free porn having on pay sites and how can you keep one step ahead?

It's harder and harder to sell memberships, but there is still plenty of surfers who are horny enough to join right away

 

[greyhat]

By disclaimer i mean the lagal warning at the start of the video clips that verifies the actors age etc... 'a freind' has seen a load of videos on the free sites etc without this at the start of clips and 'he' was wondering what the situation is with that??

 

[theentry]

I've a few fake-tubes and I've no such a warning. Also many paysites don't have and there isn't a problem about it.

 

[greyhat]

Ok, i mean... i would go with the majority. Just don't want the feds knocking down my door!

 

[theentry]

But I always have a link to a 2257 page with the legal info about the content. Just to make sure.