I have really learned a lot reading this forum over the last year. Hell, if you would have told me a year ago that people make $100,000 +/ day with AM I would have called you a liar. I would love to jump into the PPC game and get my feet wet but all I have is about $300 and a credit card. One of the most important lessons I learned is with PPC it takes money to make money. So with that established, it looks like I will have to take the SEO route in the meanwhile and try to stack some cash from that so I can use it for PPC. My question to you successful PPC guys is how many of you started out with SEO? How long did you do it until you decided to try PPC? If you had to start over with nothing would you do things the same way?
How many of you guys took the SEO route in the beginning?
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It took me well over a year to do PPC from SEO. Now that I am consistent into PPC I don't think I could ever go back.
Like you said, you have to spend $ to make $. Good luck.
Like you said, you have to spend $ to make $. Good luck.
In starting PPC I would say start off with around $500 minimum just to be able to test. It really depends on your niche but if it does take off you want to have the money to scale it without having to wait for your payments to come in. Cash flow is always a huge problem with affiliates. I started off with around 20k to invest but had other businesses that had taken off already but you could easily do it with $500 if you are smart with you money.
With that being said could I become one of those $25,000/ day guys starting from that $500 amount? I realize I am a noob but I have the determination and drive to shoot for the stars. Thats my goal in the future. I always hear about guys with $5,000+ to spend on campaigns, but I never hear about the small guy who started with $500 that's making bank. Maybe I'm wrong but I just haven't read about it. Realistically, could I exponentially grow my earnings in the beginning and become just as big as some of you guys?
There is nothing wrong if you go work at McDonalds for a month and earn that extra $500 to start with. This shouldn't be your primary business until you are sure you can survive only doing IM. I don't get people asking if they can I start with 100$ and be successful. You still have to go to your crappy job, earn and invest. Work and invest, work and invest woooo woo...
I have heard of small guys who started with less than $500 who are making "bank" so that would prove that theory wrong. I know people who started with free hosting and article marketing who a few years later were pulling is 30k plus monthly off of their affiliate offers. A lot of it comes down to how much you know and how much skill you have as you can have 50k to start with but if you have no idea what you are doing then it doesn't do you much good either.
I got into this whole gig by doing SEO for my sites which just corporate sites for the places I worked. I wasn't making any money from them at all One day I realized that if I could get those sites to rank well, I should figure out a way to make money from this shit, and I put adsense on some new sites I created. That was a couple years ago. Now I'm making upward of $400 a day with adsense, all on half a dozen sites that I've done very good SEO on.
Don't let people tell you, or fall into the belief, that doing SEO isn't a good way to make money. I'd rather find a niche that has been around for a long time and make a decent quality site that can rank, and stand the test of time, as opposed to trying to out guess Adwords and not get my PPC campaigns slapped every other day.
PPC is the the fast lane. It's got a steep learning curve and the potential to lose a ton of cash before you even figure out what the hell you're doing is huge. I still consider myself a PPC rookie and I've been messing with it for a year. Luckily, I make good money from my SEO efforts so I can afford to fuck around with PPC and get my chops up so one day I'll have the skills to actually make some decent cash from PPC.
fucking around with ppc and your money is why u make none with ppc. Have a plan like your seo and stop fucking around!
I don't just throw shit together and hope for the best. It took me a while to figure out what I was doing with SEO and successful PPC campaigns don't come over night I've found. When I say fucking around, I mean getting my feet wet and trying to learn the process.
Don't think that PPC is the end-all-be-all, there are lots of guys making a fuckload of money with JUST SEO. *disclaimer: I'm not one of them*
Find what works for you, whether it's PPC, SEO or even coding for others and be the best at it that you can be. Jumping from one thing to another will only hurt you in the long run. If you learn how to optimize sites and rank well with SEO, scale that shit up. The great thing about a ranking site is the revenue will hold for much longer than most PPC campaigns. A lot of PPC is raping the niche NOW before it gets hammered by other marketers, regulated by the FTC / FDA / FCC / Fxx, or gets so many complaints that networks won't allow you to run them. Keeping an eye on profit and loss with PPC can be a full time job by itself.
So, don't get hung up on the idea that you have go PPC to make big money. Ask Eli (Deliguy) if you can make good money doing just SEO.
Find what works for you, whether it's PPC, SEO or even coding for others and be the best at it that you can be. Jumping from one thing to another will only hurt you in the long run. If you learn how to optimize sites and rank well with SEO, scale that shit up. The great thing about a ranking site is the revenue will hold for much longer than most PPC campaigns. A lot of PPC is raping the niche NOW before it gets hammered by other marketers, regulated by the FTC / FDA / FCC / Fxx, or gets so many complaints that networks won't allow you to run them. Keeping an eye on profit and loss with PPC can be a full time job by itself.
So, don't get hung up on the idea that you have go PPC to make big money. Ask Eli (Deliguy) if you can make good money doing just SEO.
I started out doing SEO only because I was too cheap/too scared to buy traffic. The first two weeks was hell, barely got any traffic. Fast forward, after a month or two of doing non-stop SEO work, I started generating some traffic to finally test out my pages.
I soon realized, I was targetting a niche that was very saturated. So I decided to try PPC and I never looked back at SEO. SEO was a great way to learn the way Google works. It definitely laid a solid foundation into understand Google.
Just like in any industry, you have to adapt to survive. And naturally that adaption lead to AM. Understanding your traffic sources help obviously.
I soon realized, I was targetting a niche that was very saturated. So I decided to try PPC and I never looked back at SEO. SEO was a great way to learn the way Google works. It definitely laid a solid foundation into understand Google.
Just like in any industry, you have to adapt to survive. And naturally that adaption lead to AM. Understanding your traffic sources help obviously.