First yeah mike is right, there is that asshole i dont know if hes still there but he has the top ad in 99% of the adult sites. Thats cool. Now how do you decide what markets are saturated. Well your on CJ right? look at the top EPCs on CJ. All saturated, all insurance, credit cards, ringtones, if you run adwords you simply are in these markets too late. I made 30k on credit cards back in the day, cant anymore. Thats the thing, wheee everyone gets the adwords ebooks, they sound real promising thats how i started 4 years ago, now. Comp is way higher now, ill just keep preaching this, theres no room for conventional marketing anymore, no room for convential offers, conventional keywords, but you can still get wealthy in the adwords game. THINK!