I can't understand the problem with fucking google

[ubaidabcd]

I have an affiliate site I'm doing pretty well on Yahoo. 100%+ ROI

Doing well on MSN and ASK, not sales wise, but ROI wise since the traffic is low and bids are low.

Bring the same site over to Google, not getting the same traffic, conversions or clicks. Same site, ads, keywords etc..

Tried to make small ad groups, no luck. Should I just raise my bid really high? in Yahoo I'm raising bids to about .20 or .30., should I raise my bid to $5 or something? Then Google will put me at top but charge me the next lowest bid?

My payout is only $3, so not everybody can be bidding that high. yet, everybody else in my niche is on Google and must be making money if I'm mkaing money on smaller SE's.

I've gotten professional written articles directed towards the converting keywords, keyword rich articles, LSI, etc... still nothing, high bids and low traffic.

What the hell is wrong with Google. How can a site on yahoo be brining in $5K a month gross. Then bring the same thing to google and get nothing. I mean literally nothing.... $0.00 HELL IT'S IN THE NEGATIVE IF YOU COUNT MY AD SPEND.

Is this the reason that I need to raise my max bid to $10, and just get put on the first page, and get charged the next highest bid???

P.S.

Everything is correct, keywords in ad, keywords in landing page, keywords in domain, but I'm not getting anywhere with google.

 

[ScottDaMan]

Check the quality score on you ads. I'd bet they aren't "great" and therefore, your seeing sucky results.

Then, search this forum for quality score and get learning. Google is a different game than YPN or Adcenter.

 

[ubaidabcd]

Trust me I know it's a differnt game from goin to $4K+ gross a mont on yahoo than to google with fucking nothing. I can see it's a different game.

I've gotten prfoessional articles written from people who are in tune to the SEO game, still nothing. I'll need to read more on Google QS. My quality score is OK. Even though I don't know how it couldn't be better since my entire landing page article is based on the keyword that I'm promoting with the keyword in the ad, keywords etc.. Do you think it's too due to the high traffic on google?

Just doesn't make sense to me how you can go from making $5K a month or whatever in gross on Yahoo and to GODAMN NOTHING on Google with everything the same. Some kind of bullshit going on.

 

[ubaidabcd]

I thougth I know everything about QS

make sure you landing page is relevant to your PPC ad, keywords in SMALL AD GROUPS related to your site and landing page. Including a matching domain with your site/ad/keywords.

Still no results.

Do you think it's due to competitoin? The payout is only $3 so how much more can people bid to turn a profit? Yet, I'm not on there and everybody else???? What the helll? I'm making more on ask.com and MSN

 

[ehlo]

Is your landing page linked to any other pages on your site?

If not then try creating other pages on your site along the same keyword theme and link to them, this may improve your score.

 

[ubaidabcd]

Is your landing page linked to any other pages on your site?

If not then try creating other pages on your site along the same keyword theme and link to them, this may improve your score.

Well, I want them to go to my site that I have advertised with a banner. If try to link to other sites in my theme, won't that have an effect on the click-throughs to my affiliate sites.

I do have an about, and privacy page.

EDIT:

Maybe i just need to contiounsly revise my article on the landing page?

 

[Kyle]

Switching PPC engines can be tricky man...its not unusual for great converting keywords in one engine to fail miserably in another in my experience.

What is your quality score for your keywords? If its already 'Great' then thats probably not your problem. It could be your competitors have been there for a while and have a good longterm history with those keywords. I've heard suggestions that this can mean it will be difficult for you to get in there as you will never have as long a history as they do.

Could also just be that you need to start researching more keywords if your current ones aren't working - don't assume they'll work in Google if they worked in Yahoo. Start thinking outside the box and all that I suppose.

 

[cashflowrusty]

Could also be something like domain age, backlinks that Google knows about, and so on that add tot he blend and end up not putting your site high enough.

Actually, I don't believe you have stated:
Are you showing impressions?
Good numbers?
Have clickthrus but no conversions?
If you have ANY clickthrus, what is the ad position for that keyword?
Above 8-10 or lower?

Also, could have to do with your matching, or even your ads. Not the QS stuff for the ads, but the product/thing you are talking about in them...

I heard on WebmasterRadios Good Karma they said that MSN was more business users and Google was more home users. *I* think Google is less home user and more technical/smart user, and MSN/Yahoo are more home or business (surfing from work) user. So trying to sell baby products on Google may not do as well as on MSN/Yahoo... (example)

 

[SUP3RNOVA]

you need to make google love you

spend a lot with a jacked up CTR (10%+) and they'll love you

 

[onlinedownloads]

Google is something different from the other search engines. So change the methodology and make a different attempt with Adwords.

 

[ubaidabcd]

you need to make google love you

spend a lot with a jacked up CTR (10%+) and they'll love you

but my payout is only a few dollars, are you saying to take a loss in the beginning to raise my CTR, and get traffic, after my CTR starts going up start lowering bids?

 

[tornado]

Most recently on a campaign I had $2.00 bids set for my keywords and was getting charged about .50-.80 a click. Had a great click-through ratio of 20% and then I paused my ads. A few days later I received a great quality score (lost about $100 during this time) and now I am paying .08-.15 a keyword with pretty good position. Still in the red but hopefully by the end of the month I'll at least break even and then on to profits from there. Might be worth losing $100-200 to see if the same works for you.