Is 60-70% Conversion and 100% Tracking Possible in AM Marketing?

[Blastyourass]

Say this in an Indian accent "Hi dis is Awkmed and you need refinance and cash" Barf..... "How bout debt consolidation damn it! puke.......

Call centers in India can kiss my ass. Like I never thought of that or had experience with those fuckers in my 8 years in RE. For order taking, yes they will do fine but not for any type of sales, ever. They may speak english and work hard in India. But 99.9% have absolutely no sales and people skills. I have yet to meet an Indian mother fucker that can impress me just a little on the phone.

Like I said orders yes, sales no. This has been an ongoing debate in the corporate world and studies are showing that outscoring customer service/sales to India is not working and the costs savings do not over shadow the problems with logistics and poor sales.

 

[Blastyourass]

Tell me where it would result in a loss of sales? Name some things that would sell "BETTER" without human interaction?

I am not knocking not having human interaction in the processs.If I could not talk to anyone, collect checks and not lose 50% of my sales, then I would do it tomorrow. However, the thread was started on how to improve conversions dramatically and get 100% tracking.

Oh wait your selling ebooks to Noob's right? Thats your target? If not name some targets so I can debate your comments or shut me the fuck up.

Lerchmo made great points. What I think it all comes down to is you have options. You can go either way and there is no wrong way because it comes down to what you prefer.

However, my point on improving tracking and conversions still stands.

Some things one does need the extra interaction with the customer but with others it would just relsut in the loss of sales where less is better. That's where knowing your target comes in handy.

 

[Xrproto]

Tell me where it would result in a loss of sales? Name some things that would sell "BETTER" without human interaction?

Well for one it could result into over selling the product or service. You being in sales for so long should already know about over selling.

Just about anything you can go and buy in a store where you are not bothered by someone that gets payed commissions will sell better without human interaction.

I am not knocking not having human interaction in the processs.If I could not talk to anyone, collect checks and not lose 50% of my sales, then I would do it tomorrow. However, the thread was started on how to improve conversions dramatically and get 100% tracking.

For your niche I completely see where you are coming from but in another niche it could be counter productive and result in loss of sale or return.

Oh wait your selling ebooks to Noob's right? Thats your target? If not name some targets so I can debate your comments or shut me the fuck up.

Are you going to call me a worseless asshat next?

Just think outside of your niche and maybe you would be able to see what I'm trying to say is that going to this extent for a sale or even 100% tracking would be overkill and counter productive.

What you suggest is awesome but it has it's time and place and just because it will increase your ROI in one niche doesn't mean it will in another.

Lerchmo made great points. What I think it all comes down to is you have options. You can go either way and there is no wrong way because it comes down to what you prefer.

It all boils down to what is viable.

However, my point on improving tracking and conversions still stands.

I agree for your niche what you speak of I would definitely add this to my business model. I can see where this would work in a lot of areas and where it won't work in other areas.

 

[Blastyourass]

You are not a worthless asshat. It just my style of debate.

I just don't have one niche. One niche I may make public but other niches that I don't and there is human interaction on a lot of levels. Maybe that's why I get such lucrative niches that are not overly saturated.

Again, this is about improving your conversions and tracking dramitically by adding a human element in affiliate marketing. You still cannot prove which method is better because you will never know the sales you're missing, so attemping to debate this is fruitless.

I do understand that you can make a shit load of money and never talk to a soul. It does happen, but it is very, very, very, rare and with any successful business model, there will always be human element added at some point.

 

[Xrproto]

I'm coming back to this after more thought.

First off, you did rub me the wrong way at first with your first post with this comment;"Now find something you can promote and get an 800# and start acting like a business instead of hiding behind landing pages and craigslist scams."

We need to first separate Marketing & Sales because there is a difference there and they are separate entities. Marketing is what one would do to reach and persuade prospects. Affiliate Marketing is just that, marketing, advertising or whatever methods you use to prospect for Sales.

Now with that in mind, one can build a real business around just marketing. In this case affiliate marketing. If you do that you are acting like an advertising company for said products of your choosing. Your goal would be to find prospects for whichever product you want to promote and pre-sell them, warm them up or better yet get them hot so when they do go to the seller they buy.

What you propose is to do both, market & sales. This is where it's all dependent on the product/niche/payout on whether taking that extra step into sales will be worth in. It's not dependent on preference either. Now I do have one site in development that I will take the step into sales because at a $200+ per sale it will be well worth my time to process some of the sales myself after I have them warmed up.

Now if it was a product where I only get $15 per lead/sale it wouldn't be worth my time when I can be more effective and pre-selling the prospects and let the initial advertiser deal with the sales end. So in sense I would be hiding behind my landing pages but really how many times do you get the company that made the commercial any said product that you were pre-sold on but had a question before you bought it.

I still stand that your proposed method to be incorporated is a good one for certain offers, products, or services.

 

[Xrproto]

You are not a worthless asshat. It just my style of debate.

Yeah I am. Don't you see my "waste of e-space" below my name.

 

[geekcognito]

This calls for another group hug.

 

[Xrproto]

You are not a worthless asshat. It just my style of debate.

I just don't have one niche. One niche I may make public but other niches that I don't and there is human interaction on a lot of levels. Maybe that's why I get such lucrative niches that are not overly saturated.

Again, this is about improving your conversions and tracking dramitically by adding a human element in affiliate marketing. You still cannot prove which method is better because you will never know the sales you're missing, so attemping to debate this is fruitless.

I do understand that you can make a shit load of money and never talk to a soul. It does happen, but it is very, very, very, rare and with any successful business model, there will always be human element added at some point.

You know what would be a brutal combo in affiliate marketing would be a person that kicks ass in marketing and another the kicks ass in sales.

I do agree adding the human element into it does improve sales but there are offers I wouldn't think about doing that due to it not being cost effective or net it's worth to me but for shits and giggles I might start adding my contact info on landing pages for questions on said offers. I won't do phone on those but maybe a valid email.