Joker.org got loved tenderly by copyright holders

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This week the web-based torrent service Joker has been making headlines all over the Internet. However, after a few days the fun stopped thanks to pressure from copyright holders including Sony Pictures, who ordered Joker's hosting company to pull the plug.

While most people use standalone torrent clients to download files, there are also several services that allow people to stream videos in a web-browser via the popular file-sharing protocol.

One of the best implementations of BitTorrent ‘powered’ streaming is Joker.org. Although the actual streaming is not fully peer-to-peer, as the transfers first go through central servers, its ease of use is certainly appealing.
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One of the notices Redstation received was sent by Entura International on behalf of Sony Pictures Entertainment. This notice alleged that Joker facilitates copyright infringement at 3 levels.

1. The initial download of content via BitTorrent without permission. At no point has Rights Holder authorized transmission of its content via this medium.
2. The storage and/or caching of BitTorrent chunks of the content.
3. The conversion and re-transmission of stored/cached content in streaming video format to users via web browser.

Entura International asked the hosting provider to stop the alleged unlawful activities by suspending Joker’s account or null-routing the associated IP-address. Redstation chose the latter option and the Joker service has been unavailable since.
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This was one hell of a proof of concept. What are those "copyright holders" going to do when the magnet links are stored on the blockchain? Good luck fuckers your days are numbered.

In sad yet related news google has sold out yet again and are removing torrent results from search.
 


just release the damn source on bitbucket or something. Should be very fun to watch what happens!

They didn't believe they'd make money from it did they?
 
The piratebays database of 2 million + magnet links is less than 100mb. Process that db on some type of blockchain technology, integrate it into the browser and its game over. I give it 18 months before this is a reality. The technology is already there. Just need someone to code it.
 
Aww, it was so awesome while it lasted. Wanted to make a thread about it, but figured it won't last long.

xdemi said:
just release the damn source on bitbucket or something. Should be very fun to watch what happens!

They didn't believe they'd make money from it did they?
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This.
 
This is an uphill battle for sony and others. pirate bay, demonoid etc.. are always getting screwed with yet it doesn't affect the popularity of torrents.

They will probably be back soon.

I doubt they will make it public yet, there's a lot of money to be made even if you're getting shut down every 2 months. Especially as it gets more popular.
 
dmnEPC said:
The piratebays database of 2 million + magnet links is less than 100mb. Process that db on some type of blockchain technology, integrate it into the browser and its game over. I give it 18 months before this is a reality. The technology is already there. Just need someone to code it.
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You mean like Limewire / Kazaa, or what they used to be I should say?
 
Kiopa_Matt said:
You mean like Limewire / Kazaa, or what they used to be I should say?
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Nope. Was way to complicated. The real problem is the need for a vpn. Once (if) vpn use goes mainstream then they will just clamp down on the evils of that. You know. Terrorists and pedo's use VPN's.
 
dmnEPC said:
Nope. Was way to complicated. The real problem is the need for a vpn. Once (if) vpn use goes mainstream then they will just clamp down on the evils of that. You know. Terrorists and pedo's use VPN's.
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No, the real problem is the fact the Limewire protocol never got adopted. That's one of the many things Bitcoin did right. You could take away bitcoin.org site and the client tomorrow, and bitcoin would continue humming along just fine. The protocol itself has gained more than enough adoption to keep it going and thriving.

With Limewire / Kazaa though, you take away the client, the whole thing crashes & burns. It was virtually the same technology as the blockchain though, although no cryptography or consensus, but file sharing doesn't really need that.

That, and there's various other issues as well, which I'm too tired to get into...
 
dmnEPC said:
Nope. Was way to complicated. The real problem is the need for a vpn. Once (if) vpn use goes mainstream then they will just clamp down on the evils of that. You know. Terrorists and pedo's use VPN's.
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Thing is that loads of businesses use VPNs... If they start to block that no one would be able to do business remotely without getting intercepted midway by the government of the day.
 
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