Keeping my shit together - Backup and storage options?

BackBanana said:
you'd be crazy to rely on local storage for backups, what if you have a fire? flooded? electrical storm? nuclear blast? it's all gone.

Offsite / Online is a must, surely :)

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nuclear blasts? serious?

If that shit happened I wouldn't be caring about online shit, id be robbing and stealing and looting. yeah, I keep it real.. would straight up gank shit from you at the end of the world.

But I know what you mean, was a good laugh.
 


you guys need to take off your tinfoil hats and open up to 2011. Store all smaller stuff in the cloud, dropbox is a good choice because if they die/go out of business/lose your shit on the server, you still have it locally. Back up your big media/stolen music/catalog of porn on externals. Do it weekly and keep them in a waterproof/fireproof safe if you really want some peace of mind.
 
sapphirescales said:
Even a $3/month hosting account with GoDaddy has 10gb of web space. If it's code you want to store, you might as well store it where you can test it too and get a website out of it. That's a hell of a lot better than a 1gb dropbox or paying more for the same amount of storage through an online storage company. If you're afraid your shit will get lost in a fire, keep an external with all your important stuff and put it in your car. Have one with the same data in your house so you can use it. Chances are your house isn't going to burn down the same day your car is stolen. You people worry too much.

EDIT: Oh and by the way, read the disclaimers and TOS agreements for those online storage companies. They can lose your data and just say "too bad so sad" and you're just shit out of luck. I want control of my own data, thank you very much. I would NEVER use an online storage company as my only backup.
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What happens when you forget to backup your data to your FTP account? Dropbox syncs up automatically

You know FTP doesn't do incremental changes, so if your 1G file changes, you need to upload the entire thing again right? Dropbox will lan share and does incremental changes

Do you have a laptop and a desktop? If so, you've now got backup on both, plus Dropbox, heck you can even install Dropbox on your VPS and have a copy syncing there also
 
I use Dropbox on a couple VPS's/home computers and its great.

I also use externals as well, but what I do is use a folder sync program ( i think its callsed PureSync, but ill check later ) and I just drop shit into it and it syncs whatever is inside of it to other folders on my other computers/externals. Its kind of like dropbox for the local home/lan user.

I guess in theory you could have it sync your DB to an external for you as well for added piece of mind.

Always have layers in everything you do.
 
Any one using Amazon for backing up any of your stuff? Just drop it in a bucket and your done. I havent tried it but I was just thinking its cheap its fast and not likely to go out of business. At .14 a gb it seems like it would be a lot cheaper than some of these other options
 
dmnEPC said:
Any one using Amazon for backing up any of your stuff? Just drop it in a bucket and your done. I havent tried it but I was just thinking its cheap its fast and not likely to go out of business. At .14 a gb it seems like it would be a lot cheaper than some of these other options
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dropbox is hosted on amazon I believe. In fact, I woud imagine the majority of cloud based backup solutions rely on Amazon, they're the most reliable/robust solution out there
 
dchuk said:
dropbox is hosted on amazon I believe. In fact, I woud imagine the majority of cloud based backup solutions rely on Amazon, they're the most reliable/robust solution out there
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If they are already hosting on Amazon why would you want to pay the middle man? The pretty UI? Im guessing its for the non techie person. It just seems to me for the pricing your better off just going right to the source. I use if for hosting images and videos just never really occurred to me to use it as a backup. I would trust Amazon over some fly by night site any day, not saying that's the case with these other options but hey its Amazon.
 
How about just storing your data on your externals to begin with then making the backups later? External drives are far less likely to die than the drive that's running your OS because that drive undergoes a lot of wear and tear by doing all the mundane things to keep your system going. And if you're so fucking lazy/forgetful that you can't remember to drag a folder over, then you should just kill yourself and do the world a favor. And the fireproof safe is a good idea. If you're so fucking worried your house is going to burn down, then spend the $50 and get a waterproof and fireproof safe to store an external drive in. And to those of you using online backup solutions, you're either in Sweden where there are no bandwidth caps (or extremely high caps) or you only have 2gb of data to worry about. If I was using an online backup solution, I'd be out of bandwidth within 2 days. You can't deny that external drives are the easiest and most affordable way to keep your shit backed up. Just drag your shit over to the external drive and watch. It can't get any easier. Why anyone would entrust their data to some company is beyond me. Not when it's safer (not to mention cheaper!) to have the data in your own hands.

EDIT: Oh, and if you really don't want to have to remember to drag that folder over, set up RAID mirroring. It can't get any easier than that.
 
dmnEPC said:
If they are already hosting on Amazon why would you want to pay the middle man? The pretty UI? Im guessing its for the non techie person. It just seems to me for the pricing your better off just going right to the source. I use if for hosting images and videos just never really occurred to me to use it as a backup. I would trust Amazon over some fly by night site any day, not saying that's the case with these other options but hey its Amazon.
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it's actually the lack of a pretty UI as to why I use Dropbox. It's just a folder. I put my files into a folder. considering I pay $10 per month for incremental backup with no bandwidth charges, it's a good deal.

And it's just a folder.
 
sapphirescales said:
Why anyone would entrust their data to some company is beyond me. Not when it's safer (not to mention cheaper!) to have the data in your own hands.
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I'm guessing you don't have any bank accounts, or buy insurance, or invest in the stock market, or visit a doctor, or have kids in school, or have a drivers license, or.... <snipped a mile-long list of life's realities>

The fact you were able to somehow figure out how to use the internet to your own benefit astounds me.
 
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For externals, the best software solution is Shadowprotect by Storagecraft.com (buy it there, not available on Amazon). It stores your whole environment: OS, installed apps, and data, and you can recover it in a virtual machine. Much better reviews than Acronis and Norton Ghost. Bare metal recovery, baby!

I like the Seagate external drives. They support several disk interface standards.

You'd still use dropbox or jungledisk for your data in the cloud.
 
Whatever you decide to do. Keep in mind, sync services like dropbox will sync your F ups as well.

Ex. You just overwrote something you needed... Dropbox will happily sync that mistake in the background to the cloud.

Its always good to use a combination of online sync tools and offline storage options to ensure you sleepless night doesn't come back to bite you too hard.
 
if your data is worth money to you, put it in a revisioning source code manager with a remote endpoint somewhere on the other side of the world.
anything less than that puts you on par with "retarded excuse for an information professional".

i use dropbox for music and porn. cloud servers are there for me to crash and load test, not holding master copies of my code. subversion's a shitty solution for backup scenarios because it's "single master" architecture leaves anyone with a clue thinking, "gee, so what happens when my master gets corrupted?"

short answer: get git or gtfo
 
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