Lets Talk Zip Submits.

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Since this is now a newbie question, what the hell is a zip submit? An offer where you submit a zip code?

Affiliates make money everytime someone does that or what? Can anyone really explain how it works?

Oh my god.. did you really just ask that?!

Please please please please please someone invent a way to shoot someone over the internet!!!!
 


Complaining about 20 fucking clicks and no conversions... are you shitting me?!

For fucks sake Jon, I wasn't complaining, I was just explaining where the campaign was at.

I probably should have posted it in the newbie section in the first place, because I haven't promoted zips before, and I wanted to get some input on the campaign, the way I was going about it, ect...

I've changed the approach up. If anyone wants to know the keyword I was bidding on, have at it. "Impeach Bush". 300k+ impressions a day. Maybe someone else can figure out a way to monetize it, you can get some cheap ass clicks if the QS is right.

I lost track of this thread when it got moved, so I wanted to thank everyone who offered advice.

Ya know, I learned something today...

I learned that zips can be profitable via PPC...

I learned that half of America googles "impeach bush" on a daily basis...

I learned not to post any experimenting with new projects that I do so that myself and others can learn from it on wickedfire or I'll get banned...
 
40+ clicks, $5.50 spend, zero conversions. I must be doing something wrong. Guess I'm going to kill it.

omg you must be joking. 5.50 spent and 40 clicks. That is not even close to enough traffic to base conversions on. Not a chance I would drop anything because I was down 5.50.
 
^^^No, not joking.

I spent 4x+ the payout, my CTR sucked, QS was going down, and I received some good advice that the keyword was way to broad.

I didn't say OMG, I've lost $5!!!! I changed it up because it wasn't working.

Now, as much as I appreciate the reply, do you have anything helpful to contribute or did you just stop by to take a shit on my thread?
 
Lol, no, I just used the Paris thing as an example so I wouldn't give away my keyword.

The keyword was "Impeach bush" and a few variations.

The ad copy was

Should We Impeach Bush?
Your Opinion Matters! Vote And
Enter Your Zip For A Free Iphone!

And the landing page was an exact copy of the iphone page, except with a picture of Bush, the questions, and a YES and NO button that both led to the iphone offer.
 
So what constitutes a real "big boy" campaign? Do you burn through 2 million impressions and 10,000 clicks with a 1% conversion rate on a zip submit that earns you $1.15, thus earning you $115.00 that cost you $500 to run a PPC campaign for?

Do you need to lose big money before you quit? Why? I'm not getting the harshness Jon and Mike. I don't do zip submits (yet), but if I do, hell if I'm going to throw away hundreds of dollars a pop at EACH campaign to try it out. That could cost the average, non filthy rich person a lot of money. Can you guys elaborate on why you think the posts in this thread were so stupid?
 
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So what constitutes a real "big boy" campaign? Do you burn through 2 million impressions and 10,000 clicks with a 1% conversion rate on a zip submit that earns you $1.15, thus earning you $115.00 that cost you $500 to run a PPC campaign for?

Do you need to lose big money before you quit? Why? I'm not getting the harshness Jon and Mike. I don't do zip submits (yet), but if I do, hell if I'm going to throw away hundreds of dollars a pop at EACH campaign to try it out. That could cost the average, non filthy rich person a lot of money. Can you guys elaborate on why you think the posts in this thread were so stupid?


There's a big difference between $5 (40 clicks or however much it was) and 10,000 clicks $500. I'm on a small budget and personally I prefer to give campaigns about a 100 clicks, so 1%. This whole time I'll be tweaking my campaign, add/delete keywords edit bids, ads, etc..., and then if still nothing I'll just go to something else most likely not test more than 200 clicks, but I have spent more than that in hopes of getting the campaign to work.

It all really depends on your budget and how much you want to spend, you're really just testing and tweaking the whole time in hopes to get a performing campaign. So, if you have an extra $500 to spend and don't care, then it's up to you. If I've spent about $20-$30 and not getting anything and tried to do everything I could possibly try, then I'll just move on to something else. Or just put it aside until I can think of an idea or method that I think would work.

I don't think the real issue here is money or the amount of clicks, it's more that you should be doing everything you can to tweak your campaign and get it to perform for you until you just feel like you can't think of anything else or do anything else, then just move on to something else.

Theoretically, you should be able to make any niche or affiliate program work since, somebody out there is making it work or the merchants/networks wouldn't be in business, correct? It just depends on if you know what you're doing, or if you can find that secret keyword, audience, etc.. etc..

So in closing, just keep testing and tweaking for what your budget will allow or as much as you want to spend, since somebody else out there is making it work. You just have to find out how to make it work for you.
 
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There's a big difference between $5 (40 clicks or however much it was) and 10,000 clicks $500. I'm on a small budget and personally I prefer to give campaigns about a 100 clicks, so 1%. This whole time I'll be tweaking my campaign, add/delete keywords edit bids, ads, etc..., and then if still nothing I'll just go to something else most likely not test more than 200 clicks, but I have spent more than that in hopes of getting the campaign to work.

It all really depends on your budget and how much you want to spend, you're really just testing and tweaking the whole time in hopes to get a performing campaign. So, if you have an extra $500 to spend and don't care, then it's up to you. If I've spent about $20-$30 and not getting anything and tried to do everything I could possibly try, then I'll just move on to something else. Or just put it aside until I can think of an idea or method that I think would work.

I don't think the real issue here is money or the amount of clicks, it's more that you should be doing everything you can to tweak your campaign and get it to perform for you until you just feel like you can't think of anything else or do anything else, then just move on to something else.

Theoretically, you should be able to make any niche or affiliate program work since, somebody out there is making it work or the merchants/networks wouldn't be in business, correct? It just depends on if you know what you're doing, or if you can find that secret keyword, audience, etc.. etc..

So in closing, just keep testing and tweaking for what your budget will allow or as much as you want to spend, since somebody else out there is making it work. You just have to find out how to make it work for you.

Thank you! This really is helpful.

It's not the numbers then, it's the combination of the numbers while tweaking at the same time. Great post...+ rep
 
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