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Yeah it's fuckin disgusting. 4 cops couldn't detain him without using a taser? Give me a fuckin break he wasn't even fighting back. Even if he was and 4 RCMP officers can't detain him they shouldn't be cops to begin with. On top of that apparently they are supposed to use pepper spray and their night sticks BEFORE even considering tasering someone.
 
The problem lies in the promise that Tasers are "non-lethal" and "a good way to control someone".

Since when is causing pain to another human being considered a good thing(tm)?

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Don't fuck with cops and they won't fuck with you, how hard is that to understand. When people get that concept through their thick skulls these stories will not happen.
 
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The problem lies in the promise that Tasers are "non-lethal" and "a good way to control someone".

Since when is causing pain to another human being considered a good thing(tm)?

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Tasers are a better way to control someone than rushing him and throwing him to the ground. He probably would've fought considering how pissed off he was, endangering not only himself but the cops as well. Things like this happen, but they happen very rarely. I'm wondering anyway what he was trying to accomplish by throwing around chairs.
 
juiceman22 said:
Don't fuck with cops and they won't fuck with you, how hard is that to understand. When people get that concept through their thick skulls these stories will not happen.
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Yeah...

Just OBEY. Do WHATEVER they say. It is for your best. OBEY and CONSUME, unit. Authorities are there because GOD wanted them to be. Be good and tame, citizen.

Jeezus motherfucking christ on a crutch. The spoon they used to scrape out your brain didn't even have to be washed afterwards.

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God damn. That's fucked.
Am I the only one that understands that sometimes in life you just need to yell and break shit? For fucks sake. We don't know what he was pissed off about yet, but people get pissed off, it's human nature. When they approached him he put his arms up at shoulder level and tried walking away. He wasn't much of a threat, then they zapped him, and then he got pissed, as ANY OF YOU would... No matter how right or wrong you are, when someone hurts you, you're gonna get pissed... I've been pepper sprayed twice, (not by police or females), and let me tell you, it makes you fucking ANGRY...

There is nothing in our human nature that says "He has a badge, it's ok if he hurts you". That's bullshit. Cops are people, and as such, they dont always know what is right or best for everyone else, they are just given authority to do so.

I hate this kind of shit... And yea, I understand that people shouldnt get all nuts in public around people, but seriously... It happens. Shit, I broke my own computer just the other day, because it was a POS and it kept freezing...
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It's better than therapy.
 
On a more calm note.

Even if he was upset and angry, 4 cops should be able to de-escalate a situation a bit.
The guy did not even talk English and they start tasering after mere 24secs?

Time a normal conversation. 24 secs is barely enough for the small talk at the beginning.

And "non-lethal" does not mean "fun for the whole family". There is a reason these things are in the media. For related reading, please refer to Amnesty International

USA: Renewed call for suspension as taser-related deaths pass 150 mark - news.amnesty - Amnesty International
http://www.amnestyusa.org/document.php?lang=e&id=ENGAMR510302006
USA: Excessive and lethal force? Amnesty International's concerns about deaths and ill-treatment involving police use of tasers - Amnesty International

Amnesty International US is renewing its pledge to get rid of tasers in the police force. One of the reasons being that in 5 years, more than 150 people have died.

Non-lethal.

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Yeah...

Just OBEY. Do WHATEVER they say. It is for your best. OBEY and CONSUME, unit. Authorities are there because GOD wanted them to be. Be good and tame, citizen.

Jeezus motherfucking christ on a crutch. The spoon they used to scrape out your brain didn't even have to be washed afterwards.

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No you're absolutely right, don't obey, instead we should all go to the airport to fight with the RCMP (Canada's feds by the way these guys aren't your average cop) and throw tables at them. Anyone that retarded is asking for it.
 
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No you're absolutely right, don't obey, instead we should all go to the airport to fight with the RCMP, Canada's feds by the way these guys aren't your average cop, and throw tables at them. Anyone that retarded is asking for it.
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There is a distinction between erratic, violent behaviour and blind obedience.

The guy was throwing chairs after they kept him locked in an airport for 10 hours. And he did NOT throw anything at the officers.

After 10 hours, I would be yelling and screaming in frustration as well.

And then yelling and shaking...

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Just listened to some of the new info on a talk station I listen to...

The guy had spent all day going through the airport, and then once he got to the airport, he had to deal with customs because it was an international flight. Thats why he was so frustrated...

To top it all off, his mother lived in BC, and had saved money for 7 years to move her only son (the "suspect") to BC with her. She was in another part of the airport, waiting for him. He wanted to get passed through so he could see her, and get the hell out of the airport.
 
Man you guys wouldn't last a day as a cop.

"We have a crazed man here screaming and throwing tables at us. But maybe he's just had a bad day? Everyone has bad days. What's this, he's now pulled a knife out. No don't pull our your weapons, you might scare the poor man! Maybe it isn't a knife, maybe he's just pointing a pen at us? Uh oh, he's running towards us, don't use your baton you don't want to cause any unnecessary harm to the poor frustrated man. Uh oh he just killed my partner! What should I do? Well I better make sure I protect his rights, that comes first!"
 
Again, he did not throw ANYTHING at the police officers.

Yes he threw chairs way before... in the video, he is not throwing anything.
He is clearly agitated, but people are trying to call him down and seem to succeed.
Then the heroes...err arrive.
They talk to him, maybe he is yelling (we can't see nor hear in the video), but he is clearly not attacking anyone.

You can even see him holding up his hands and going in the direction the police officers are pointing him at.

Then they taser him. And they keep the finger on the fucking trigger.

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Once again, please get that "tasers are non-lethal" shit industry myth out of your head. 30 deaths by tazer a year in the US alone.

Also don't come at me with "it's less bad than rushing at someone" because the cops STILL rush at him an pin him to the ground with 4 people.

Now, I am FAR, far away from being a cop basher, but power has to be kept in check. Something like this is inexcusable.

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Obviously, code is not my friend today.

But here is something purely democratic and purely American for you.

Civil Disobedience (Thoreau - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

This was part of my American education .. given to us by a very good teacher in American Literature.

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To prevent your head from exploding...
In a republic like ours, people often think that the proper response to an unjust law is to try to use the political process to change the law, but to obey and respect the law until it is changed. But if the law is itself clearly unjust, and the lawmaking process is not designed to quickly obliterate such unjust laws, then the law deserves no respect — break the law.
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How hard is it to understand that they don't have the ability to replay and scrutinize a scene as it is happening, that they only have seconds to react to what they see? It's easy for everyone to say now that "oh he wasn't threatening, he put his arms up look if we reverse and play it in slow motion you can see his hands going up in the air. Police brutality I say!"
 
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