MARKETING EXPERT NEEDED!!! (for a series of products)

[JonusBohr]

Looking for a marketer to do business with for my series of Japanese & Chinese E-Books... about 5-10products in total. Let's get paid, together.

Background:
I have paid for some CPM traffic testing it out, but it did not work at all. Therefore, I am afraid to try it again. I do not need a ton of useless traffic that doesn't convert (via spam, etc.) I WANT TRAFFIC THAT CONVERTS.


Basically: I am a Japanese ebook writer who is too busy to grind out marketing, I would like to sell the books at like $25 and pay out $4 by each sale. This means I'm not paying money for traffic that doesn't work --- which is obviously a waste of my time.

So, I want someone who believes in the product and is willing to make money on the back-end.

However, I am willing to pay per hour short-term if I see some payoff.

I'm just not willing to pay money and not get any in return.

What I need is: Someone to handle the MARKETING . Specifically, handling social media marketing or anything else that generates high conversion rates; Facebook, twitter, etc. or whatever other internet marketing service exists

ALSO, Maybe to edit and make the website sales better.

WHAT I DO: I pump out Japanese and Chinese-themed 20-50page ebooks, about one a week, ranging from drinking, anime, flirting lessons.

My EMAIL is taipeitears@hotmail.com -- Hurry up

What I currently have: the website is Drinking in Japanese : I put it together in 2hrs myself

-Jonus

 

[nvanprooyen]

Have you tried Clickbank yet?

Also, "traffic that converts" is a 2 way street. If your offer, landing page, value props, call to action etc suck...then the most qualified traffic in the world won't convert at the level it should be.

 

[JonusBohr]

Absolutely, I agree with you. That's why I'm looking for someone to handle those for me, as well.

ClickBank is under consideration, and I will do it soon if I cannot find someone to manage all this for me.

I want someone to take over the marketing operations ENTIRELY.... if going to clickbank is the best option, then so be it. I just want to produce the products.

 

[Drake]

Going Clickbank does not mean you dont need a marketing person.

The best selling CB stuff is marketed very heavily like any affiliate program.

 

[nvanprooyen]

Going Clickbank does not mean you dont need a marketing person.

The best selling CB stuff is marketed very heavily like any affiliate program.

In addition, you'll want someone actively recruiting. If you stick it on autopilot your results will likely suck unless you get really lucky.

 

[JonusBohr]

In addition, you'll want someone actively recruiting.

EXACTLY, that's why i'm here. Do you or somebody else want to run the marketing campaign for my ebook selection? If you do, Message me

 

[nvanprooyen]

Nope. I'm super busy and unable to take on any new projects right now. Keep the thread alive though, someone might be interested. You might also want to head over to NicheChoppers: VIP Private Earners Club For Internet Marketing & Monetizing (run by a member here, ncmedia). Lots of discussion about info products there. Might be able to find a JV partner. It's a paid forum, but it might be worth the relationships if you're serious about it. I'd PM ncmedia for more info on that.

 

[JonusBohr]

I messaged him, but I don't know if I want to pay for a membership to a marketing forum.... I want a marketer to do all the thinking about marketing for me... I don't want to be taught how to do it myself;p I already know the general stuff (like brand management, and RFM modeling + CPM and CPC planning)

I have a solid business plan... I just need someone to write the marketing page & generate the correct targeted traffic for my site... not some ripoff.

 

[stmadeveloper]

Wow - no wonder you aren't getting anywhere. You need a copy writer before you need a marketer.

Do that first - not all of us that can drive traffic and play social networks, etc... can write copy. DO it in a couple steps (and pay for it).

Just don't pay 1200 dollars for the copy writing

 

[JonusBohr]

You need a copy writer before you need a marketer.

what do you mean by copy writer? I have the product, site (average), what does a copy writer do?

 

[barman]

jose?

 

[stmadeveloper]

I'm not sure that site is average. I can't see it converting even if you have someone ready to head off to japan for a bender.

A copy writer writes copy - in your case sales copy so when you do get targeted traffic to your site someone will actually buy.

Go look over your site and imagine you just clicked a link about bar hoping in japan......... you are mildly interested but would you buy?

 

[JonusBohr]

A copy writer writes copy - in your case sales copy so when you do get targeted traffic to your site someone will actually buy.
?

Well, I'm looking for a copywriter / web-page developer AND traffic generation.

I'm willing to part with 30% of the profit for someone who is a marketing expert to run this aspect. I will then focus all my attention to making MANY good-ass books.

IF YOU ARE INTERESTED, let me know.

 

[ncmedia]

Hey Jonus,

Just saw your pm figured I'd respond here so others can maybe benefit.

*NVan thanks for the mention.

1. I don't think anyone that knows what they are doing with copy or with design/marketing/your full scope of needs is going to do something for 30% of the account while you continue to design new quirky niche pages/offers. Like you said the page/product took you no time to build < However - that part is only like x% of the full puzzle. I wouldn't do this for 80%, and on the flip side I'm partner on accounts for only 15%, and they make more than almost anything else for me

2. Creating a site or quick product in any niche nowadays is simple - even getting half decent PLR at $19 comes with everything you just listed that you can deliver plus the copy plus affiliate material and master rebrand rights... (not meant to offend just to educate).

3. In all honesty, I think your best bet would be to flip the roles a bit - I can see you're hungry and a bit over confident that your shit is great and will convert no matter what just throw some good copy and traffic at it.. .. .right? But I'm afraid that's no different than xxx,xxx other marketers taking a hack at being a vendor thinking this is all it takes.

4. Have a quick look at my sig - I have built a ton of top shelf shit and conversion tested/mastered as much as I could and I still have projects bomb on me with top notch copy/graphics/money/time spent testing the offer AND heavy recruitment from past offers - so be prepared for a long trial and error journey, plus throwing jam at the wall before something sticks good enough to convert ONCE let alone attracting someone to get 30% of a .. . .. japan bar hopping style ebook collection...

5. I'll comp you a membership at the forum, I don't think you realize that the fundamentals in this world are still strongly needed so you understand what to watch for if you outsource or if you offer xx% of an account - and know what's good/bad/why. It's about conversion mastering not being technically inclined or just business savvy.

At the end of the day you and your new marketing bonafide bro can spend a year or two building offers but if you don't get how/why/where to maximize conversions, you won't get far, again anyone that knows what they are doing and is already banking, won't blink at this - others at your level that are trying to network and grow/combine skills might - when that happens you should choose your products more carefully and not be shy about % or 50/50 just combine all and share all or get more partners and share more...

Do proper market research, fill gaps that have room to bank in, strategize what might be hot next season online, test test test first, convert it on your own (a lot) first, then recruit or offer someone a piece for help, with proof to boot (screenshots and all).

6. Stay away from quirky stuff for now and just understand how to convert average joe to buy something out of necessity or desire, that is hot right now. OR be an affiliate and convert 10 things, whatever does best = make your own version but better.

7. I'm in prelaunch and conversion testing on this product which has been quite an expensive build and gone through 8 sales pages with pro copy on each, and variations of graphics, length of copy, flash/no flash, audio examples/no examples/vids no vids, different price points, upsells, etc. to see what works best for us and affiliates. A month later we're finally down to a great market position, and it's one of the pages I least like but it's all about conversions and $, not skill sets and blinkies... so it's NEVER just bang bang whip up a page and throw traffic at it (although possible with certain setups - not really cps though).

Your next step? Re-evaluate what you can/can't do, seems you may already have what it takes just need to brush up on how/why this world works the way it does and analyze some of the current greats/top cps converters to model after. Outsource the copy/design tweaks if you have to and test with paypal for a bit - if you convert it then great you're onto something, if you can't try again or sell the site for someone else to tweak, either way you make money this way and don't have to share initially while you learn.

Hope this helps you a bit.
N.

 

[proson]

well basically you need to ask yourself

who are your targeted readers?

why they want to buy your ebook?

what are the benefits when they buy the ebook?

Are there any similar product in the market and if there are what are
your unique selling propositions?

You should understand the basics of copwriting as well
such as writing a big headline stating your best benefit of the ebook.

"Wondering Where to Party When You are in Japan?"

For example.

I just made it up and I am not sure it works. You need to understand your market before you go and write an ebook about it anyway.

 

[nvanprooyen]

Hey Jonus,

Just saw your pm figured I'd respond here so others can maybe benefit.

*NVan thanks for the mention.

1. I don't think anyone that knows what they are doing with copy or with design/marketing/your full scope of needs is going to do something for 30% of the account while you continue to design new quirky niche pages/offers. Like you said the page/product took you no time to build < However - that part is only like x% of the full puzzle. I wouldn't do this for 80%, and on the flip side I'm partner on accounts for only 15%, and they make more than almost anything else for me

2. Creating a site or quick product in any niche nowadays is simple - even getting half decent PLR at $19 comes with everything you just listed that you can deliver plus the copy plus affiliate material and master rebrand rights... (not meant to offend just to educate).

3. In all honesty, I think your best bet would be to flip the roles a bit - I can see you're hungry and a bit over confident that your shit is great and will convert no matter what just throw some good copy and traffic at it.. .. .right? But I'm afraid that's no different than xxx,xxx other marketers taking a hack at being a vendor thinking this is all it takes.

4. Have a quick look at my sig - I have built a ton of top shelf shit and conversion tested/mastered as much as I could and I still have projects bomb on me with top notch copy/graphics/money/time spent testing the offer AND heavy recruitment from past offers - so be prepared for a long trial and error journey, plus throwing jam at the wall before something sticks good enough to convert ONCE let alone attracting someone to get 30% of a .. . .. japan bar hopping style ebook collection...

5. I'll comp you a membership at the forum, I don't think you realize that the fundamentals in this world are still strongly needed so you understand what to watch for if you outsource or if you offer xx% of an account - and know what's good/bad/why. It's about conversion mastering not being technically inclined or just business savvy.

At the end of the day you and your new marketing bonafide bro can spend a year or two building offers but if you don't get how/why/where to maximize conversions, you won't get far, again anyone that knows what they are doing and is already banking, won't blink at this - others at your level that are trying to network and grow/combine skills might - when that happens you should choose your products more carefully and not be shy about % or 50/50 just combine all and share all or get more partners and share more...

Do proper market research, fill gaps that have room to bank in, strategize what might be hot next season online, test test test first, convert it on your own (a lot) first, then recruit or offer someone a piece for help, with proof to boot (screenshots and all).

6. Stay away from quirky stuff for now and just understand how to convert average joe to buy something out of necessity or desire, that is hot right now. OR be an affiliate and convert 10 things, whatever does best = make your own version but better.

7. I'm in prelaunch and conversion testing on this product which has been quite an expensive build and gone through 8 sales pages with pro copy on each, and variations of graphics, length of copy, flash/no flash, audio examples/no examples/vids no vids, different price points, upsells, etc. to see what works best for us and affiliates. A month later we're finally down to a great market position, and it's one of the pages I least like but it's all about conversions and $, not skill sets and blinkies... so it's NEVER just bang bang whip up a page and throw traffic at it (although possible with certain setups - not really cps though).

Your next step? Re-evaluate what you can/can't do, seems you may already have what it takes just need to brush up on how/why this world works the way it does and analyze some of the current greats/top cps converters to model after. Outsource the copy/design tweaks if you have to and test with paypal for a bit - if you convert it then great you're onto something, if you can't try again or sell the site for someone else to tweak, either way you make money this way and don't have to share initially while you learn.

Hope this helps you a bit.
N.

great, great post norb +rep