My Client Center and google account slappage

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Moncada

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Hey- just wondering if anybody out there uses my client center to avoid the slaps. We got slapped recently and are wondering how many precautions to take with making new accounts- thinking my client center (MCC) might be a good way to make it easier.

Does anyone know if when using My Client Center and an account gets slapped if it affects any of the other accounts?
 


no it doesn't. I have changed campaigns from one account to the other and traffic has started again (with a new domain name)

but you know google. They can be fucking pricks and will slap/ban you when they want. Be careful and don't contact them. You don't want them snooping around your account cause you ask them a question and they give your account the full manual review. As much as you can stay under the radar with them. My account manager at google doesn't know fuck all about affiliate marketing. In fact he knows fuck all about anything other than "how can I get you to spend more money" and "here's your monthly account, please pay it".
 
It doesn't change your adwords account at all. Its like an mcse, it'll work for you if you are trying to get a job.
 
Just a word of caution, but I did transfer campaigns from one account to another this weekend (via MCC) and the new campaigns (fresh domains, ips, content / same keywords, ads, groups) got slapped within 24 hours. Granted I did make the stupid mistake of calling Google about one of my campaigns acting up on the first account (which resulted in slaps every other day or so :X ). Not sure if the MCC slap was because of the call or not, but I have had some friends who are big on adwords tell me they've never heard of this happening before.

Just a heads up.
 
So what's the best choice cross-account google slaps?

1) several accounts linked through MCC
2) several unlinked accounts that all contain the same billing address
 
harry1970 said:
As much as you can stay under the radar with them. My account manager at google doesn't know fuck all about affiliate marketing. In fact he knows fuck all about anything other than "how can I get you to spend more money" and "here's your monthly account, please pay it".
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I love how you say "fuck all." Its great.
 
lol at harry's fuck all. google is evil, no question about it. they are greedy and hate affiliates. i still use them when i can, but yahoo is quickly becoming my new best friend.

- lucas
 
illeat said:
Just a word of caution, but I did transfer campaigns from one account to another this weekend (via MCC) and the new campaigns (fresh domains, ips, content / same keywords, ads, groups) got slapped within 24 hours. Granted I did make the stupid mistake of calling Google about one of my campaigns acting up on the first account (which resulted in slaps every other day or so :X ). Not sure if the MCC slap was because of the call or not, but I have had some friends who are big on adwords tell me they've never heard of this happening before.
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I've moved slapped campaigns from account to account before. Really the only way I've found to avoid a re-slap is to re-structure the campaign completely. New domain, new campaign name, slightly different ads, similar keywords.

I haven't had any trouble with my MCC yet. But I stress that word...YET!
 
Moncada said:
So what's the best choice cross-account google slaps?

1) several accounts linked through MCC
2) several unlinked accounts that all contain the same billing address
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unlinked accounts would certainly be the best choice id assume, even with the same billing address, it goes more by your account and keyword history than your address, in fact i dont think they go by address at all
 
unlinked accounts, different billing address, credit card numbers, google accounts sign in, proxied domain name, and login IP address. That's the only way to be 100% safe.

Also, don't log into ANY Google services (gmail, calendar, anything) from the same browser and IP address.

But I'm just really paranoid.
 
Geordie said:
unlinked accounts, different billing address, credit card numbers, google accounts sign in, proxied domain name, and login IP address. That's the only way to be 100% safe.

Also, don't log into ANY Google services (gmail, calendar, anything) from the same browser and IP address.

But I'm just really paranoid.
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How many credit cards do you have? Do they have different names on them?

This is all getting a bit paranoid for me!
 
Having multiple adwords accounts is "easy"

Step 1. Open up an LLC and get 3 different bank accounts with a debit card, I use bank of america, wells fargo, and chase

Step 2. Open up 3 UPS mailboxes in 3 nearby cities

Step 3. Use those addresses as your billing address on your bank accounts. Enable "web only/email statements" so you don't have to go there every month.

Step 4. Buy 3 dedicated windows servers from 3 different providers, you can find plenty on Web Hosting Talk - The largest, most influential web hosting community on the Internet at a cost of about $80 per month each. Then just login using the remote desktop tool and use it like a normal windows desktop.

Step 5. Login to each server and create a new adwords account that is dedicated to each server, and each credit card. As for the credit card names, if it's a visa/MC debit card you can use any name you want and it will still come back as valid. Visa/MC don't have AVS for the billing name yet so Google will never know it's fake.

Some rules:

1. As Geordie said, don't ever mix your accounts. If you have an account with google don't use it to login to youtube from your computer, and then to login to blogspot on dedicated server #1. Make a strict rule that each server will get it's own account, and that account can't be used on any other servers/computers, and no other accounts can be used on that server.

2. Wait a few days before you create your accounts and campaigns, the chances of 3 different advertisers signing up from Los angeles, Burbank, and Pasadena and promoting the same niches, with the same keywords, and the same budgets on the same day is very unlikely. I don't think google has anything to track stuff like this, but why risk it?

3. Change everything, from the landing page template and meta tags all the way to your sales page or affiliate link, google knows better than that.
 
ayzo said:
Having multiple adwords accounts is "easy"

Step 1. Open up an LLC and get 3 different bank accounts with a debit card, I use bank of america, wells fargo, and chase

Step 2. Open up 3 UPS mailboxes in 3 nearby cities

Step 3. Use those addresses as your billing address on your bank accounts. Enable "web only/email statements" so you don't have to go there every month.

Step 4. Buy 3 dedicated windows servers from 3 different providers, you can find plenty on Web Hosting Talk - The largest, most influential web hosting community on the Internet at a cost of about $80 per month each. Then just login using the remote desktop tool and use it like a normal windows desktop.

Step 5. Login to each server and create a new adwords account that is dedicated to each server, and each credit card. As for the credit card names, if it's a visa/MC debit card you can use any name you want and it will still come back as valid. Visa/MC don't have AVS for the billing name yet so Google will never know it's fake.

Some rules:

1. As Geordie said, don't ever mix your accounts. If you have an account with google don't use it to login to youtube from your computer, and then to login to blogspot on dedicated server #1. Make a strict rule that each server will get it's own account, and that account can't be used on any other servers/computers, and no other accounts can be used on that server.

2. Wait a few days before you create your accounts and campaigns, the chances of 3 different advertisers signing up from Los angeles, Burbank, and Pasadena and promoting the same niches, with the same keywords, and the same budgets on the same day is very unlikely. I don't think google has anything to track stuff like this, but why risk it?

3. Change everything, from the landing page template and meta tags all the way to your sales page or affiliate link, google knows better than that.
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Great info. 2 questions:

1 - Are you talking about MCC accounts or individual adwords accounts?

2 - Would you use the remote desktop every time you log in to your adwords account?

Cheers.
 
neonlights said:
Great info. 2 questions:

1 - Are you talking about MCC accounts or individual adwords accounts?

2 - Would you use the remote desktop every time you log in to your adwords account?

Cheers.
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1 - It can work both ways, but I use this method for individual accounts.

2 - Yes, you must always use remote desktop when you are logging in to another account. Otherwise your IP will show up and it won't be long until that account is banned again.
 
ayzo said:
1 - It can work both ways, but I use this method for individual accounts.

2 - Yes, you must always use remote desktop when you are logging in to another account. Otherwise your IP will show up and it won't be long until that account is banned again.
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Cool. Thats good stuff to know. Thanks :)
 
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