Need opinions / feedback regarding PPC Affiliate Marketing on Google

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everaffiliate

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I am hoping I can get some good feedback from some of the affiliate marketing vets here.

Basically:

Since Google has very strict policies about not advertising affiliate programs with Adwords PPC, as well as big restrictions on a lot of the highly profitable keywords, like Health Supplements ect.. What would you guys think of a technology that could get around all of that? Basically like a proprietary cloaking AI that could detect Google and show them one thing " the ideal of what they want to see " and maybe send your real traffic directly to your bridge / splash page or even directly to the affiliate store and make it seem as if it came from your 'legit website' to everyone else? A proven tech that can beat Google, not a cheap cloaker that get's you banned in a week.

What do you think the best / most profitable market would be to do this in and what do you think this service would be worth to provide to a 3rd party to allow them to take advantage of it? A % or a flat fee monthly, ect?

Please give me your feedback, I would appreciate it!

Thanks.
 


I'd buy it if it actually worked. Not sure what you're asking about which market would be the best, if it works for one vertical why wouldn't it work for all of them?
 
o hai guyz said:
I'd buy it if it actually worked. Not sure what you're asking about which market would be the best, if it works for one vertical why wouldn't it work for all of them?
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It would work for all of them, I am trying to get opinions on which verticals it would work the 'best' for. Obviously excluding banned keywords.

I am trying to get an idea of what verticals people think something like this work do the best with and how much money it could make based on being able to do it.

So assuming that it works, what's your opinion?
 
everaffiliate said:
It would work for all of them, I am trying to get opinions on which verticals it would work the 'best' for. Obviously excluding banned keywords.

I am trying to get an idea of what verticals people think something like this work do the best with and how much money it could make based on being able to do it.

So assuming that it works, what's your opinion?
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PM me if you're interested in getting more details about what I'm talking about. There are some things I do not want public.
 
I had a fantastic cloaker that did exactly what youre talking about.... User friendly too lol... But it seems like goog has caught on now. Pm me if you wanna see the install so you dont make the same mistake, if you can tell where it got detected.

For the longest time, ours worked great for goog, yahoo, msn, fb, and pof.... Rebills were profitable of course.

If you made one that worked and didnt get me fuked over, id pay. (would still run out of another acct though).
 
the problem is this

no tech is foolproof. i make cloakers all the time fucking time and its not a build once and forget type of thing. whoever you are cloaking only needs to find 1 way around it on purpose or accident to then fuck you over and all your sites/clients until you find away around it again and start all over.
 
Since when are adwords accounts hard to make? If that's your attitude this is not for you. If you market stuff that's against adwords, you always get banned eventually. If you have a process for making new adwords accounts it is very little down time. Even if you have perfect cloaking but you're in a very high profile vertical when you get reported enough times, you'll be banned even if level 3 doesn't see it.

The key here is how long you can get away with highly profitable keywords to restricted types of offers. I'll be honest, I've been running a few for over 6 months now and I'm yet to be banned on any of my adwords accounts. I'm not saying anything is 100% full proof but I guess you can say this is about as good as it gets.

I am totally aware that cloakers are a dime a dozen, I'm talking about something quite a bit more involved.
 
fight_prof said:
I had a fantastic cloaker that did exactly what youre talking about.... User friendly too lol... But it seems like goog has caught on now. Pm me if you wanna see the install so you dont make the same mistake, if you can tell where it got detected.

For the longest time, ours worked great for goog, yahoo, msn, fb, and pof.... Rebills were profitable of course.

If you made one that worked and didnt get me fuked over, id pay. (would still run out of another acct though).
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Look, bottom line is this: I'm not looking for anything up front. I have a tech that does everything I say and I want to meet a few other guru's that possibly know more than I do about highly converting and profitable Google prohibited verticals and give them an opportunity to use my tech to make some cash for both of us.

This is not a public software, this is 100% developed in house from the ground up. No one has used it other than me at this point and Google has not cracked my methods, which are also 100% unique.

This is not something you can buy.
 
everaffiliate said:
Since when are adwords accounts hard to make? If that's your attitude this is not for you. If you market stuff that's against adwords, you always get banned eventually. If you have a process for making new adwords accounts it is very little down time. Even if you have perfect cloaking but you're in a very high profile vertical when you get reported enough times, you'll be banned even if level 3 doesn't see it.

The key here is how long you can get away with highly profitable keywords to restricted types of offers. I'll be honest, I've been running a few for over 6 months now and I'm yet to be banned on any of my adwords accounts. I'm not saying anything is 100% full proof but I guess you can say this is about as good as it gets.

I am totally aware that cloakers are a dime a dozen, I'm talking about something quite a bit more involved.
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If adword accounts are SO EASY to make and everyone should know how to do it, how about spitting out some knowledge on how you make them so easily. Once everyone knows this, Im sure everyone will be signing up to your service since there would be no repercussions to getting banned since we can all make them over again.
 
What made you decide to come in as a new member & bless WF with this breakthrough technology? Even if it's a paid service, it seems like increasing awareness of the software would be like putting a big fat target on your tech's back. Conversely you keep it for yourself and bank hard for however long you can keep G off your stuff.

Not trying to be a jerk, but does raise an eyebrow.
 
eliquid said:
If adword accounts are SO EASY to make and everyone should know how to do it, how about spitting out some knowledge on how you make them so easily. Once everyone knows this, Im sure everyone will be signing up to your service since there would be no repercussions to getting banned since we can all make them over again.
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Yeah, are they easy to make? I know you can make easy accounts if you use vouchers but I've never known anyone to have lots of legit accounts. OP, if you give me an Adwords account and the software, I'll try it out, but you're targeting a product at people who are already breaking rules and doing shady shit and those are the types of people who are gonna be skeptical of you no matter what.
 
I don't blame anyone for being skeptical and Im doing already do this myself but I think if I bring a few people in, let them use the tech for a cut of the proceeds, I can make a lot more. Also, there are probably techniques and verticals that I haven't played with enough to realize their potential. Like I said, I'm not asking for any money from anyone up front for anything like that.. so there's not much to really worry about. I am how ever only looking for some players that have made real money before and have some experience to bring to the table.

I am not worried about talking about the tech in this forum, there are no details that I've given which google could possibly use to identify my tech or turn them on to it. The methods I actually use to defeat google won't be revealed.
 
o hai guyz said:
Yeah, are they easy to make? I know you can make easy accounts if you use vouchers but I've never known anyone to have lots of legit accounts. OP, if you give me an Adwords account and the software, I'll try it out, but you're targeting a product at people who are already breaking rules and doing shady shit and those are the types of people who are gonna be skeptical of you no matter what.
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It's not terribly difficult to make new adwords accounts. There are several guides out there you can get on how to do it if you don't already know.

No, I'm not giving away adwords accounts or making them for anyone, if you're not at that level, you don't have the experience I am looking for anyway. I'm looking for guys that have done all of this before and are looking for a proven new tech to defeat Google, that's what I can offer. If you haven't had an adwords account banned before then you're not trying hard enough.
 
everaffiliate said:
It's not terribly difficult to make new adwords accounts. There are several guides out there you can get on how to do it if you don't already know.

No, I'm not giving away adwords accounts or making them for anyone, if you're not at that level, you don't have the experience I am looking for anyway. I'm looking for guys that have done all of this before and are looking for a proven new tech to defeat Google, that's what I can offer. If you haven't had an adwords account banned before then you're not trying hard enough.
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lol it seems like every time someone asks you a question you get defensive. There's no way anyone I'd waste my time making a fake account to test some software from a guy with 4 posts who claims it's so easy to make accounts yet for some reason doesn't even have 1 spare one sitting around. unsubbing from this thread
 
o hai guyz said:
lol it seems like every time someone asks you a question you get defensive. There's no way anyone I'd waste my time making a fake account to test some software from a guy with 4 posts who claims it's so easy to make accounts yet for some reason doesn't even have 1 spare one sitting around. unsubbing from this thread
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Thanks for letting everyone know, I'm sure you will be sorely missed.

You're definitely a bit on the 'slow' side if you think someone is going to give you an Adwords account..... lol. I don't care if they had a couple dozen spares lying around. That's just stupid on so many levels.

Even if you had a couple of your own spares, I'm sure there's plenty of other reasons I would turn you down. Just from what you've posted so far it's quite obvious that you're a beginner and have nothing to offer. You're trolling these forums looking for handouts IMO.

Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.
 
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