Network of Sites Sharing IP Address

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Please keep in mind that I'm not as smart as you guys =)

Am I right to assume that if you have multiple domains registered and hosted under 1 account then they are sharing an IP address?

When creating a network of sites for SEO purposes, how important is the shared IP address issue?

Besides cost... isn't it a giant PITA to log into multiple hosting accounts?
 


If you're on a shared hosting plan there's probably plenty of sites sharing the same IP as yours. Interpret that how you want but I don't think there's any way that Google will revoke the PR of a site because it's on a shared hosting plan though I suppose it's possible that they favor sites on dedicated IPs.
 
znine said:
Interpret that how you want but I don't think there's any way that Google will revoke the PR of a site because it's on a shared hosting plan though I suppose it's possible that they favor sites on dedicated IPs.
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Google do revoke the PR. I've lost some after playing with links on my sites @ same IP
 
I say it really depends on what your making sites for. if you're looking for PR sure if you're building sites that focus on affiliates or other stuff and you're buying the bulk of your traffic anyway same IP doesn't matter.

Look at it this way if your business model doesn't hinge on PR who cares. If it does then get dedicated IP's but if your business model depends on PR you're already screwed but you just don't know it yet.
 
Google will not favor one site over another based solely on the latter having a unique IP.

Your site may be filtered if the shared IP is in a "bad neighborhood" of very spammy sites.

Your site might be filtered if you are cross linking all of your sites with the same IP.

you can read more here....
 
I have a few hundred sites on shared IPs amongst several thousand. I've interlinked a few of these sites together with no problem.

Now if you have a dedicated IP that you share amongst your own sites only, fuck yeah thats a problem. Google will find it and your whole IP can get blacklisted.

If you are successful enough, you can buy entire class Cs for $100 (255 IPs) if you know the right people ;)
 
I have a colo with ThePlanet and have 13 IP addresses (12 of them being virtual) on one server. I've played with using different IPs for the websites but have found no noticeable difference. If it does make a difference, it's not as big as having original content, regular updates, great links, etc.
 
Juicify said:
It's said that google don't like it.
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Google also came out and said it doesn't matter if 1 site has 1 ip or 100 sites have the same IP as long as the sites are not "spam sites" and all linking to each other/etc.

Are there benefits of having 1 ip 1 site yes, is it a must have for EVERY site NOPE.
 
I have a few accounts with several IPs. I put all my large sites, my main sites, on a few IPs and put all the shit ones the others. If google thinks your IP is part of a "bad neighborhood" you may be penalized. Just don't mix up your shady stuff with you legit stuff.
 
ToddW said:
Google also came out and said it doesn't matter if 1 site has 1 ip or 100 sites have the same IP as long as the sites are not "spam sites" and all linking to each other/etc.

Are there benefits of having 1 ip 1 site yes, is it a must have for EVERY site NOPE.
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He said that he would link them together.
 
There's some hosts that focus on Class C hosting for SEO purposes. Keep in mind that the jury is still out on this. A few people claim this is true, others aren't convinced. All I can say is that every little bit helps. Also, maybe this is needed if you have a HUGE network of, shall we say, not so stellar content (scraped, RSS rehash, mashed up content, etc etc). However, if your content is legit or user-supplied, it becomes a tougher call to make.
 
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It doesn't matter what "google says". It matters what the computer programs that determine ranking says. Its in google's best interest to "wag the dog". Different Class Cs Is a very good idea. It might not matter today but its very likely to be a matter of importance in the future. Also use different registars and put in different "nformation". You think google can't see who owns those domains? I know you guys are thinking... So you're syaing i got to buy a new host for every single website I build? No. You can get a dedicated server and get multiple ips off of it. You can buy 10 resellers accounts and link 10 sites together. Then you can host as many networks of 10 sites off of it that you want. As long as you don't cross link between those sites. Well since i'm on the topic of google I have a question that you guys might be able to answer... Why do you guys have analystics owned by google installed on your website? You're giving them your data. Is it really worth it?

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Google's answer on whether or not shared IP hurts is deceptive...

Of course someone with multiple domains on a single IP would want to link them together - particular if all the sites share a similar genre. And Google is saying that will hurt...

Then the 'shared with spammy sites' factor really sucks. Hopefully the spammiest fuckers out there are making big $$$ and have their own dedicated hosting. But I suspect the spammers are learning on shared hosting and getting ip's blacklisted on a regular basis, scary.

Class C hosting does seem like a good solution for the smaller guys. But... I can look up whether linked sites are sharing a range of ip's -- I am sure Google can too.

Bleh... this shit is making my head hurt.
 
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