Newbie With $15k set aside for learning... is this a good plan?

Yeah good luck with that $35 rebill campaign on google. Or yahoo or Bing for that matter. Or anything else with a thin landing page for that matter. Or anything affiliate related at all. I missed the advanced cloaking advice in that post. And any mention of google slaps, let alone of what to do when google banhammers your fanny perpendicular.

If I recall correctly NickyCakes advised that Facebook is the best place to start for a newbie, as its a much simpler, more purely PPC environment, with no quality scores. Although its much tougher now there too.

And whats wrong with starting with some content network campaigns, where you will actually get some really cheap clicks, to get your around writing ads, using Prosper, using Adwords, creating landing pages etc? If you're just learning, then just learn. No need to jump into Search straight away and waste your cash on $2 clicks on keywords you got from the Adwords Keyword Tool and everyone else got their keywords from also.
 


So you are saying start with facebook and not google, as even though it is difficult, it is still easier than google or msn?
 
No, dispel is just taking what I said literally. When I was talking about rebills, I was talking generally for PPC how you would figure out what you could spend. It was completely unrelated to Search, but I see how it could be said that way.

So yeah, you can't do rebills on search. Bad example. But everything else I said was right.

To tell you the truth adigitalorgange, you can't really say one platform is that much easier than another.

Sure, in a sense I guess you could say MSN and Yahoo is a little easier than Google because of a little less competiton. Or Facebook, because of great targeting options and a relatively new platform. But when it comes down to it, you can make money on all platforms. Asking the question "What's Easier" means that you probably won't make it in this industry. Nothing's easy, you have to put down your hard earned cash with no guarantee of a return.

But one thing I can say is this... Before you ask the question, Can I make money with this platform "Google, Yahoo, Facebook" realize that if people are advertising there you probably can. I've made tons of money on Google, and I started on Google, but that doesn't mean its the best or easiest. You just try shit. Stop asking questions and just TRY but be smart about it, don't waste a shitload of money, and do it cautiously.

For instance, many people fail to realize how huge Google's content network is. It's WAY larger than Search. Think of all the sites with adsense on them out there, TONS. Sure, it's a little harder and you can drain money quick... But if you learn the system, test in small amounts first, and use ur fricking brain you can make massive amounts of money.

But again, by asking what's easier adigitalorange and just asking all these nonsense questions that you could easily figure out your own, it makes me wonder whether someone like you who's not willing to take risk and try shit out is going to make it in this highly competitive business. EVERYTHING IS COMPETITIVE, nothing is easy. BUT IF THERE'S MONEY TO BE MADE, and you're willing to put your money on the line and use your fucking brain, YOU CAN MAKE MONEY.
 
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Advice taken, thank you again DavidLerner. I'm certainly not afraid to test the waters, but like you said I want to be smart about it. A shitload of money is spent everyday on every network, and was just wondering if I should start small before moving to somewhere like google. It's the same thing as going into fucking new york and opening up a restaurant and then some random city in north dakota, much less competition. But I understand your point about taking risks in order to gain knowledge and I agree whole heartedly, I just didn't know if there was a network I should go for first, but I understand now, thank you.

-Vince
 
I do mainly SEO and just want to make sure you understand why people choose to do seo rather then ppc. If you have other things in life like full time job or university etc. you don't have much time working, it is nice to have a big portion of your business on auto pilot. Organic traffic is great for that. Yea you spend time and money building links and working your site code and maybe you need slightly more knowledge to do seo than ppc (ppc is mainly testing) but in the long run you have a site that gets organic traffic, converts and you are done with it. Keep it running and use that income on something else maybe on PPC or hookers who knows... And if you ever need quick buck go to any website marketplace and sell it well beyond your monthly income. Organic traffic is very valuable !!! For example Bankaholic.com was sold for over $1m simply because it had amazing organic traffic. Despite everything I said I do suggest starting with PPC and not Adwords :) good luck bro
 
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