Offline To Online Marketing Methods

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I would advertise exact match for your domain so you'll likely be the #1 result for pretty cheap...

EDIT: nevermind, i just remembered that your domain needs to match destination page when you do ppc....

It doesn't much matter if your doing offline marketing though, just as long as your domain is related to the product and is easily memorable and brandable, then you should hopefully be able to rank for it fairly easily in no time at all.

But your right for PPC it will be different.

Also I found another good article for offline to online marketing I'll post the link in a few hours when I get home.

I also agree that some people do type in the actual domain into the Search engines instead of in the address bar so its a good idea to be ranking for that term before you launch the offline campaign.
 


Good call. Lots of people just type domains into search engines instead of browsers. Especially in smaller towns. You should wait to get indexed before you launch a campaign. Not sure what to do if it's just a redirect from your domain...

If you're redirecting all example.com traffic to the merchant's page, you'd have to make a page such as example.com/index2.php and put up your own landing page there.

Then throw up a few backlinks and you should be indexed and ranked fairly soon.
 
If you're redirecting all example.com traffic to the merchant's page, you'd have to make a page such as example.com/index2.php and put up your own landing page there.

Then throw up a few backlinks and you should be indexed and ranked fairly soon.

But if someone puts ur domain in yahoo and that page comes up, it won't redirect, right? So that page better do a good job of making them click through...
 
But if someone puts ur domain in yahoo and that page comes up, it won't redirect, right? So that page better do a good job of making them click through...

It can be tricky at times but you can detect bots, or you can get it indexed then once indexed make that page redirect so that you won't have to lure the prospect into making that extra click.

Also here is a PDF of another good resource I was talking about earlier, they talk about offline to online marketing, its a Canadian publication but the information behind it can help everyone.


http://www.iabcanada.com/reports/ITTMaxHandbook2007Eng.pdf
 
I put about a dozen "tear off near the bottom" flyer and made $8 with a $2 CPL before the campus police teared down my questionable flyers :D
 
I put about a dozen "tear off near the bottom" flyer and made $8 with a $2 CPL before the campus police teared down my questionable flyers :D

What was it? Naked girls selling fleshlights?

I thought of posting signs on mailboxes for a service like nannies for hire or something like that. TONS of young families in our area.

Lots of Seniors too, I need an offer for seniors in Canada anyone?
 
RGordon83 - your numbers are pretty reasonable if you're talking about regular papers. But if I read right, you're talking about those weeklies, like penny savers, which are nothing but classified and space ads. So pretty much anyone who picks one up is going to at least scan over the whole thing. In other words, better shot at someone noticing and acting on your ad than the local paper.

Just do something to draw attention to the ad. Bold headline, or putting it in a box, and your chances of a profitable response shoots up.
 
I figure if I can get just 3% to the url I can show an OK profit, my question is....alot of these places offer discounts for purchasing multiple weeks, but I'm not sure the same ad in front of the same people will convert week after week.....they offered me buy 4 weeks get the next 4 free. What are your thoughts on this?
 
I figure if I can get just 3% to the url I can show an OK profit, my question is....alot of these places offer discounts for purchasing multiple weeks, but I'm not sure the same ad in front of the same people will convert week after week.....they offered me buy 4 weeks get the next 4 free. What are your thoughts on this?

If volume buying is the key for lower costs, plus they throw in double, I would say that would have a chance for a good ROI boost
 
Great thread. A guy I know made $180K profit in a year selling self-help courses through ads in the back of UK newspapers 2 years back, so the cash is definitely there.

There's a nice trick for getting discounts off magazine display advertising (it's probably not worth doing for classified). Let's say the ad price is $1000, you send them a cheque for $500, with the ad artwork and a letter saying "if you've got unsold space in your mag this month, I'll buy it half price - just run the enclosed artwork and cash the cheque.

Now, they will call you and tell you that they can't sell you advertising that cheap, and try to do a deal. You say to them, you only want it for $500, but no worries, just send the cheque back to you and forget about it.

One of the most stressful parts of running a magazine can be collecting money - so there's a good chance that they won't be able to face sending back money that's in their hand, and run your ad.

Now, what will often happen next is the magazine's biggest competitor will call you up having seen your ad in their rival, and offer to beat the price. You tell them you don't have the price to hand at the moment, but if they commit to beating the price in writing, you'll run the ad, and send the invoice over to them when you dig it out. (most ad salespeople are hard closers so they won't stop to think about it)

As soon as they commit, you send the half price invoice, and voila! You now have a second half-price ad. :rasta:
 
So the first results are in 48 hours in ... a combination of utter failure and promising.

To recap this one offer - I paid $200 for a pretty standout ad on the back of a free weekly. It has a reach of roughly 1 million - my wife's blog was once linked to from their online version and she got roughly 2500 visitors from them.

So - a zip/email, I ended up getting a total of 18 visitors, which got immediately redirected, of which 6 converted.

So the conversion rate was pretty solid - but the traffic flow was absolutely dismal.

So - back of free weekly = not a good way to get traffic (this was perfectly targeted to their demographic too).

Will see how the other ones pan out.
 
Regarding Nationwide, I just wanted to chime in that I have been using them for a good while now and have actually recommended them here at Wicked a couple of times. If you're looking to do offline print ads they are one of the best places I've found for far-ranging ads.


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Classified ads are all about the headline (since that's pretty much all there is room for). Learn to write compelling headlines, and you stand a much better chance of the ad being profitable.

Here's a resource for headline templates: 100 Good Advertising Headlines (by Victor Schwab)

When you're first starting out, an often recommended tactic is to take headlines that work in other markets, and modify it to work with your product/market.

For instance, the headline of an ad that was a "control"* for many years was: "Do You Make These Mistakes In English?" You could take that and modify it to so many different things.

  • Do You Make These Mistakes In Weight Loss?
  • Do You Make These Mistakes In Business?
  • Etc.

That one is cheesy, but there are 100 listed in that link I gave above. Here's another example.

"For golfers who are almost (but not quite) satisfied with their game — and can't figure out what they’re doing wrong."

Could become:

"For body builders who are almost (but not quite) satisfied with their results - and quite figure out what they're doing wrong."

BTW, I found that headline here: 9 Headline Templates That Have a Prayer

There are a lot of good resources for writing ad copy, but my favorite is The Gary Halbert Letter, which has been recommended before by someone else in this thread or another. I have not only read every single letter in his archives, I have followed damn near every exercise he gave to people wanting to learn copywriting.

If Gary Halbert weren't dead, I would hug the man. Maybe even kiss him. His letters have helped me that much.


*A control is an ad or marketing piece which is so good, future marketing pieces for the same product must beat its results in order to see continued use.
 
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The only flaw I can see in this is what affiliate companies can you trust? I know I've been screwed by Clickbank.... been screwed by CJ, MaxBounty and some of the newer ones seem to be screwing me...

What are the most trustworthy affiliate programs out there?
 
The only flaw I can see in this is what affiliate companies can you trust? I know I've been screwed by Clickbank.... been screwed by CJ, MaxBounty and some of the newer ones seem to be screwing me...

What are the most trustworthy affiliate programs out there?

Maybe they don't like you. :D
 
The only flaw I can see in this is what affiliate companies can you trust? I know I've been screwed by Clickbank.... been screwed by CJ, MaxBounty and some of the newer ones seem to be screwing me...

What are the most trustworthy affiliate programs out there?

MaxBounty is a solid network, and if you have that many companies screwing you then it makes me believe its not the companies its your shitty ass traffic your sending them which makes them turn around and take down your conversions and payout amounts.
 
Okay how about this idea guys: The free Acai Berry offers available all over the place.
Target if for areas that have a higher population of overweight people (texas lol) or something like that. Get a good free acai domain name. Here are my copy ideas

Do you have trouble losing weight?
Try Acai berry the new all natural
weight loss drink featured on oprah!
Free! freeacai.com

What do you guys think?
 
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