Others Having Trouble With CPA Empire?

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Just wanted to see if others were having trouble with CPA Empire not paying for the leads. I know for a fact that a lot of people are doing my offers but im not getting payed for them. I am talking a high percentage to like 70 or 80 percent of the people who click the offer and complete the field for email/zip submits.

Just wondering whats up, I have talked to my account manager and they can't really help me. Anyone else have stuff like this happen / suggestions for networks where I wouldn't have this issue. I am losing so much money because of this that I just can't take it any longer.

Thanks.
 


Ya, when you deal with email or zip submit campaigns you've got to jump around a lot because even if an offer converts over the first 100-1000 clicks, it'll probably dive after that.

Also, if you run a high volume of traffic, the quality better be awesome or they're just going to kick your ass off anyway.

You'd be doing yourself a favor just staying away from them unless you really know what you're doing with them.

The most long term campaign you're going to be able to run will be a campaign based on sales. If you can find a sales campaign with good ROI dump volume on it and ask for pay increases.
 
Scott Richter just got served.

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It was nice knowing you CPAEmpire.
 
Scott Richter just got served.

It was nice knowing you CPAEmpire.

I first thought the same thing when I reported on the news of them being sued by Myspace when the case was originally filed 2 years ago.. but considering that they stuck it out, fought the big bullies over at NewsCorp, and didn't have to shell out $100M+ like Myspace had hoped, I'd say that's a pretty decent win at the end of the day.

I used to hate Scott. Despised him. But then some other network owners, who are his direct competitors too, kept telling me to give him a chance, and not to fight everyone. So I gave him a chance, and I gotta say, pretty fuckin standup guy. I apologized for everything I thought and said about him with no basis aside for that I disliked him and CPAE for things that happened in the past.

Seriously now, if I can get over shit like that, so can other people. Because I'm constantly at war with TONS of networks and industry celebs, and I'm definitely not one to forgive very easily, but sometimes, we make a mistake, and if we don't man up to it and give someone a chance, we'll ultimately look like a jackass in the end.

I have nothing to do with Richter or CPAE. I don't own any part of his biz (unlike rumors about me and Azoogle or me and Copeac -- who comes up with this shit?!). They are going to advertise here, but we don't stop members here from voicing their opinions regardless of who's banner is displayed up there or not.

You can go and search for shit I've said here last year or the year before about him and his company, and now what I'm saying today. Night and day. Because I was stupid to hold a grudge. That's all there is to it. So think what you like, but don't try and start shit when you don't really know what the hell you're talking about... ya dig bitch?
 
Is there any trust for the Affiliate Networks? Question everything, trust no one. Watch your back. Fight for what is yours.

Bottomline.
 
More CPAE fun:

Most Spam Sites Tied to a Handful of Registrars - Security Fix

Perhaps the most interesting name on the list is number 7 - a registrar out of Broomfield, Colo., called Dynamic Dolphin. According to Knujon, more than 10 percent of the company's 45,000-plus domains have false WHOIS data, and more than 17 percent of the domains registered through the company have been observed being advertised through spam.
A bit of digging into Dynamic Dolphin revealed that it is owned by a company called CPA Empire, which in turn is owned by Media Breakaway LLC. Those of you who read this post a few weeks back will recognize this company: Its CEO is Scott Richter, a notorious, self-avowed spammer who claims to have quit the business. As I noted in that post, anti-spam groups claim that Media Breakaway recently hijacked more than 65,000 IP address for use in sending e-mail and hosting commercial Web sites.

Another good read:

A Case of Network Identity Theft? - Security Fix
 
Is there any trust for the Affiliate Networks? Question everything, trust no one. Watch your back. Fight for what is yours.

Bottomline.

I think this is hands down one of the best responses ever. Not only because he's an AM, but because its the downright truth.

Same goes for the networks and affiliates. They shouldn't trust anyone until they show proof or numbers or have a proven reputation or trusted references.
 
You should not trust CPAEmpire. By far one of my costliest mistake in affiliate marketing.

[Edited. Jon is a moron and thought it was Engaged, not Darf, sorry Engaged! Hey, at least you know I care about ya! I'll just leave the rest of it, because I deserve to get poked fun of for calling out the wrong guy. Apparently Darf WAS fucked by them, so if he's up for it, I'll try and help him deal with CPAE about it. Fuck. I hate screwing up like this lol]

By all means, bash any network, I'm not posting about that, I'm posting about why you've been such a cocksucker lately. Do I need to tell your gf to hop on your cock more often man? If it helps, I'll do it for ya.

I better not get an IM from you telling me its another one of your jokes... Because everytime you chime in with your bullshit, I end up getting a ton of IM's and emails about it. So while you may not be catching the flack you SHOULD be getting for what you say here, I end up with it, even though I have NOTHING to do with any of it! You're lucky I'm not the dictator some people think I am, because you gotta admit, I've been pretty damn fair taking your side because of the "don't delete or ban free speech" shit here. But you've been bugging a lot more mods than just LordBrar nowadays.

These things you start up here don't bother me anymore dude, but you should really start thinking before you post or talk shit, because someday you're bound to just piss off the wrong person and I know your ass won't be able to put up much of a fight in defense.

So maybe its time you chilled out a bit eh? But I'm not your father (thankfully, but your mom does love my cock), and certainly not your priest, so don't take this the wrong way, but have you ever considered going to therapy about your anger issues? Because the only prescription I know of to cure someone from being a douchebag for no reason is called "getting the shit knocked out of him until they stop fucking around", and that is definitely NOT something I ever want to see or hear about happening to anyone from WF, regardless of how annoying or douchey they are.
 
They shouldn't trust anyone until they show proof or numbers or have a proven reputation or trusted references.

If all the networks were to do that, how would anyone get signed up ? At some point that breaks down and you'll never get any new affiliates ?
 
wow, nice one jon. plesae send your apologies in the form of a starbucks gift card.
 
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