Outsourcing to Odesk, but how to trust ?

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Basically just trying to move to bigger projects right now and I cant do that without outsourcing my current work. Outsourcing someone a full time job would be my first time thing.

So if you post some jobs on odesk like link building or hire someone to spam lol, how can you trust them to not steal your accounts list, keywords list, and your whole business model even if they figure it out eventually ?

Any suggestions ?
 


Common problem, trust your own judgement. If it doesn't seem right then don't go through with it. Only tell them what they need to know and nothing more. Could hire someone for each specific task...? Would take more effort on your part but if you're worried then that may become a viable option to limit the information they have.
 
I've been burned at several places but also had good success. My current developer can fucking code anything I can dream up. I've had success at Odesk and Elance.
 
it is very simple. Just check the reviews of the member and see their current assignments, if they are doing work with the clients for long term, its means that the person is good and having lot of trust. You can hire him.
 
Hi there,

By "Burned" means some one scammed or took money and never completed the project. I I think there is a review system to evaluate members experience and work reliability. BTW, what big project you are planning? I bet there many members here who are willing to work on that project, including me :)

Good luck ! :)
 
bauss said:
Common problem, trust your own judgement. If it doesn't seem right then don't go through with it. Only tell them what they need to know and nothing more. Could hire someone for each specific task...? Would take more effort on your part but if you're worried then that may become a viable option to limit the information they have.
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looks like thats what is good, to actually split tasks to smaller tasks and hire multiple workers.

i would appreciate more suggestions if anybody has em

cheyeaaa
 
You can trust someone when you've demonstrated you have their long term best interest at heart - and chances are you won't read about that here. Here are some tips to get there - 99.9% of people will ignore the following strategies, you decide if you want to be in the top .1%. After almost 2 years, I can trust my offshore people so much that I would have no problem giving my credit card number to my VA.

Example of things she's done:
- worked on a project deadline for me - while using wifi at a relative's funeral - yes you read that right....
-got up at 3am to go to an internet cafe to finish a project for me - because her home computer wasn't working
-regularly worked on projects for me from her day job - I'm her first priority
-emailed me when someone was ripping my shit and posting it over the web
-took care of all the things I needed done during a long Thanksgiving weekend
-emailed me an article about a CEO who dropped dead from working too hard with a little note "please get some rest...."

This doesn't come cheap however. Here are some things that I've done:
-offered to buy her a cell phone
-paid her high speed internet bill (her service got cut off once)
-made a donation to the red cross when her country was having problems
-BIG, FAT christmas bonus

Planned:
-scholarship to send her (kids) to the best int'l school in her countries (people in developing countries really want their kids to succeed)
-weekend break for her and a guest at a 5 star hotel

See where I am going with this? When you become the kind of employer that "you" would have dreamed of, you will have your pick of people who want to work for you and whom you can trust.

Also, I am going to say something very un-PC here. You have to understand class differences if you are hiring people from developing countries. If you are the employer/the business owner there's a sort of Lord/Madam-servant dynamic.

THIS DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE BETTER THAN THEM OR THEY ARE LESS THAN YOU!!

It means everyone has their place. Because you are in a position of privilege relative to them, you have to ACT LIKE IT. This means that you have to go out of your way to make sure their needs are cared for in every aspect of their life....

If you do so they will reciprocate. This isn't for everyone. Some people just want "employees". However, if you make an investment in training someone (which costs money), it makes sense to be able to benefit from the investment you made - which can only happen in the long term.

These strategies WORK. But, they are not for everyone....

GL....
(fast typing + hang over, excuse any typos.....)
 
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Technically this is a problem with any business. You just have to pick the right people and keep in contact with them constantly. Not give up too much too soon.
 
riddarhusetgal said:
You can trust someone when you've demonstrated you have their long term best interest at heart - and chances are you won't read about that here. Here are some tips to get there - 99.9% of people will ignore the following strategies, you decide if you want to be in the top .1%. After almost 2 years, I can trust my offshore people so much that I would have no problem giving my credit card number to my VA.

Example of things she's done:
- worked on a project deadline for me - while using wifi at a relative's funeral - yes you read that right....
-got up at 3am to go to an internet cafe to finish a project for me - because her home computer wasn't working
-regularly worked on projects for me from her day job - I'm her first priority
-emailed me when someone was ripping my shit and posting it over the web
-took care of all the things I needed done during a long Thanksgiving weekend
-emailed me an article about a CEO who dropped dead from working too hard with a little note "please get some rest...."

This doesn't come cheap however. Here are some things that I've done:
-offered to buy her a cell phone
-paid her high speed internet bill (her service got cut off once)
-made a donation to the red cross when her country was having problems
-BIG, FAT christmas bonus

Planned:
-scholarship to send her (kids) to the best int'l school in her countries (people in developing countries really want their kids to succeed)
-weekend break for her and a guest at a 5 star hotel

See where I am going with this? When you become the kind of employer that "you" would have dreamed of, you will have your pick of people who want to work for you and whom you can trust.

Also, I am going to say something very un-PC here. You have to understand class differences if you are hiring people from developing countries. If you are the employer/the business owner there's a sort of Lord/Madam-servant dynamic.

THIS DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE BETTER THAN THEM OR THEY ARE LESS THAN YOU!!

It means everyone has their place. Because you are in a position of privilege relative to them, you have to ACT LIKE IT. This means that you have to go out of your way to make sure their needs are cared for in every aspect of their life....

If you do so they will reciprocate. This isn't for everyone. Some people just want "employees". However, if you make an investment in training someone (which costs money), it makes sense to be able to benefit from the investment you made - which can only happen in the long term.

These strategies WORK. But, they are not for everyone....

GL....
(fast typing + hang over, excuse any typos.....)
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damn that was good, +rep
 
Everyone else seems to of done a good job taking care of your primary concern. If it is your first time hiring on Odesk be careful, in my experience there were more than a few that take advantage of billable hours. Interview them, get a feel for their personality, but ultimately everything comes with risk. Start them off slow and work from there.
 
...guys another strategy I employ is to use some GOOD OLD FASHIONED CAPITALISM!!

As an example, once you find someone you've done a few projects with OFFER A BONUS FOR A GOOD REFERRAL!

This does a couple of things:
1) It saves you the time, energy and hassle of looking around for someone
2) Birds of a feather flock together
3) The person who has been working for you for a while, will only refer someone who will do a good job. Why? Because if the new person messes up, they know it will reflect back on them.


Also, a LAST STRATEGY is to hire family members. I mean think about it...if you are hiring someone's entire family they all have an incentive to do well - if one messes up, they will get that person in shape because they will be like "Listen, such and such great American Business owner is gonna come down on us all if we mess up!!"

See what I mean? This stuff works!

Finding great help is only at most 60% money. The people who are good at what they do, I don't care what country they are in, will always find work.....

You have to tie the incentives together.

A couple of other strategies I employ, you guys can do it easy too, that produces REAL RESULTS:

-Random bonuses. Let's say they do a good job on something - send them $10 and say "we got that project done early, go and take a trip to the movies".

Holy shit, $10!!!

That is like $100 for some people. What this will do is ENCOURAGE THEM TO BE MORE PRODUCTIVE.,...

Let me tell you that that $10 will produce $200 in productivity. When people feel appreciated and feel like they will see some upside for putting more in, THEY WILL DO IT.


Don't you want someone who will go and read up on stuff, google instructional videos on youtube on their own, contact hostgator chat support on their own..the list goes on.

The best position in life you can be as an employer is to have someone whom you can say
"here is the problem.....go fix it..."

As an example, you want to get to a point where you can say to someone
"I want to launch this site and in 6 weeks I want it to be getting 100 to 200 uniques a day and ranking for those keywords...make it happen..."

-they will develop a linking strategy
-they will write up a list of what needs to be done and say "I need a, b, c"
-they will write the articles
-they will do the social bookmarking, blog commenting, forum posting, linkwheeling, video posting, press releases, whatever the heck you want....

By the way I took a course called The Outsource method - I got it when it was $197, it's now priced at $997. It's worth $997 but I WOULD NOT ADVISE buying that if you just started out....

The funny thing is I would have had to dish out about $5k or $10k if I had taken the same HR class at a top business school....

Even if you use just one of the strategies listed <=== you will see results....


GL!!
 
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