PointLeads.com is a scam website. Its owner Anthony Vasquez has stolen from us over $5,000 of leads and sales. He ignores emails and uses excuses not to pay! I am including a transcript below of our conversations as well as some more information about the whole thing, it's quite long to read but your attention would be very much appreciated.
About $3,000 was generated during August 2011 which he promised to pay but always used excuses not to pay us, even though he did get paid for the leads and sales we delivered, there is no dispute of the validity of the amount, the entire issue falls on the fact he is a liar about actually PAYING and when it comes to paying publishers he would use any given excuse to postpone the payment.
1) First lie - there are no payment terms!
In the account there are options to choose to be paid via Net5, Net15 and such - we chose Net5 for a deduction of 20% of the amount to give it a test. When asked for this he said:
"Normally I would say Yes, but because of Hurricane Irene I have been
getting checks a little late."
Then he mentioned:
"I will try to get you that payment ASAP. I'll also add in only 5%
Fee's if it's before Net 15."
2) Continouns lying and ignoring emails
On the 21st of September we emailed him asking why there was no payment made with 5% reduction by the 15th - Our email was ignored.
We emailed again asking how the Hurricane Irene is related to the payments and why he hasn't processed the payments yet, then he said:
"I was just letting you know that Hurricane Irene had affected the
North East of the USA which caused mail/checks to come late.
We pay Net 30 (30 Days at the end of the month for the previous months
earnings)."
On the 28th of September we emailed him:
August payments should be processed by the end of this week or next week?
Please advise.
And he replied:
"They will go out by the end of next week."
3) Ignoring emails, using excuses and refusing to go online on AIM or providing screenshots
October 5, 2011
Hi Anthony,
Can I ask if our payment for August should be processed soon?
We received most payments from all the other networks, so please let me know what's the status?
[Email ignored]
October 6, 2011 - 1:02 AM UK Time
Anthony?
[Email ignored]
October 6, 2011 - 7:36 AM UK Time
Anthony,
Can I get a response from you regarding this?
You said by the end of this week, and we're on Thursday.
You told me Net30 payments.
Clearly there is no reason to hold payment when we got payments just fine from all the other networks.
I have no idea what's going on - can you please reply to me?
Anthony: Im currently away this week. I'll get back to you.
October 6, 2011 - 7:36 AM UK Time
When?
There is no other person who can respond?
October 6, 2011 - 8:13 AM UK Time
Anthony: I'll email you back in a few hours
October 6, 2011 - 3:17 PM UK Time
Anthony?
You promised to respond "in a few hours", been 7 hours since.
October 6, 2011 - 5:36 PM UK Time
Anthony: Was asleep, give me a few minutes.
October 6, 2011 - 6:02 PM UK Time
Can you get online on AIM or is there any way to properly communicate with you?
It's really bringing our faith level to the bottom when I cannot get proper communication from you.
I'd like just to sort out August payment please, you promised to process it by the end of this week.
October 6, 2011 - 6:10 PM UK Time
Anthony: Im currently on the West Coast, moving into my new place this week. Im currently in a hotel that has horrible internet. I will try to get on AIM later this afternoon.
October 6, 2011 - 6:24 PM UK Time
Can you please stop with these jokes?
It takes less than a minute to process a payment - why are you using excuses and cannot just stand once behind your words?
I don't understand how exactly you run a network this way.
October 6, 2011 - 6:25 PM UK Time
Anthony: These aren't jokes or excuses. But regardless I'll try to get on AIM this afternoon.
October 6, 2011 - 6:34 PM UK Time
Okay, looking forward. I'm there
[waiting 2 hours without bothering him or sending emails]
October 6, 2011 - 8:31 PM UK Time
Anthony,
Are you going to be online soon?
October 6, 2011 - 9:23 PM UK Time
Anthony?
October 6, 2011 - 10:05 PM UK Time
Anthony, are you there?
October 6, 2011 - 10:05 PM UK Time
Anthony: I'll be on AIM in 45 mins.
October 6, 2011 - 10:55 PM UK Time
Okay, I'm waiting ....
50 minutes now, but I'm waiting.
October 6, 2011 - 11:10 PM UK Time
Anthony?
October 6, 2011 - 11:11 PM UK Time
Anthony: Sorry on my way home. Give me 5 mins.
October 6, 2011 - 11:31 PM UK Time
20 minutes ago .... "give me 5 minutes" ... come on man,
It's frustrating.
October 6, 2011 - 11:34 PM UK Time
Anthony: Hit traffic almost there.
October 6, 2011 - 11:36 PM UK Time
It's just a matter of payment and you really enjoy giving me all these hassles?
How come you can send me emails but you cannot go online?
October 6, 2011 - 11:40 PM UK Time
It's almost midnight in the UK but I'm staying just for the chat.
October 6, 2011 - 11:42 PM UK Time
Anthony: I will send your payment on Saturday.
October 6, 2011 - 11:48 PM UK Time
Okay, can you still go on AIM please?
[Email ignored]
October 6, 2011 - 11:54 PM UK Time
I have sent another email to Anthony asking about some of the offers in his network, he replied immediately after 5 minutes.
October 7, 2011 - 12:12 AM UK Time
Don't want to push it so much but really - is there any reason for the payment to be made on Saturday and not today?
I'd like to get more details please, hence this is why I wanted to chat on AIM.
October 7, 2011 - 12:20 AM UK Time
Anthony: I don't have much time to sit town as Im moving. This weekend i will have time.
October 7, 2011 - 9:26 AM UK Time
Hi Anthony,
To make it easier for you I've raised an invoice through PayPal and all you need to do is 1 click to pay it, it doesn't take more time than the time it takes you to send me an email. I could do it even if I moved 5 houses in a week.
October 7, 2011 - 4:26 AM UK Time
Anthony,
Can we expect to trust your word saying this will be processed tomorrow?
[Email ignored]
[Following day....]
October 8, 2011 - 8:03 PM UK Time
Anthony,
You promised to pay today and you didn't.
Why are you ignoring our emails?
October 8, 2011 - 9:28 PM UK Time
Anthony: You need to realize there is a time difference. Just because i don't reply right away doesn't mean im ignoring.
October 8, 2011 - 9:40 PM UK Time
I understand.
I emailed you a few days ago informing you about the PayPal invoice that I sent with no response.
I emailed you yesterday asking if we can trust your word - with no response.
I am fed up with these repeated empty promises, you promised to pay earlier Net15 terms, then Net20 terms, then Net30 terms, then the end of the week, then today ... so what's up? we never ever had to chase any network, ever, for payments like this - just try not to frustrate your publisher and think of the picture from our side and not only from yours.
Anyway speaking of payments is it going to be made today?
I hope this is not another empty promise.
October 8, 2011 - 9:49 PM UK Time
Anthony: Yes it is.
Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 1:06 AM
Okay, I'm still waiting.
Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 3:04 AM
You're leaving it for the last moment?
Is it possible to get some updates from you already?
Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 3:23 AM
Anthony: I sent it a few hours ago
Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 3:30 AM
We haven't received anything to our PayPal account.
Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 3:49 AM
Anthony: I'll go look at the issue and resend it
Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 3:58 AM
When?
It takes only a second to do that...
You refuse to chat through AIM and I have no way to communicate with you, only through emails.
Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 3:58 AM
Anthony: I have not refused i have been busy.
About $3,000 was generated during August 2011 which he promised to pay but always used excuses not to pay us, even though he did get paid for the leads and sales we delivered, there is no dispute of the validity of the amount, the entire issue falls on the fact he is a liar about actually PAYING and when it comes to paying publishers he would use any given excuse to postpone the payment.
1) First lie - there are no payment terms!
In the account there are options to choose to be paid via Net5, Net15 and such - we chose Net5 for a deduction of 20% of the amount to give it a test. When asked for this he said:
"Normally I would say Yes, but because of Hurricane Irene I have been
getting checks a little late."
Then he mentioned:
"I will try to get you that payment ASAP. I'll also add in only 5%
Fee's if it's before Net 15."
2) Continouns lying and ignoring emails
On the 21st of September we emailed him asking why there was no payment made with 5% reduction by the 15th - Our email was ignored.
We emailed again asking how the Hurricane Irene is related to the payments and why he hasn't processed the payments yet, then he said:
"I was just letting you know that Hurricane Irene had affected the
North East of the USA which caused mail/checks to come late.
We pay Net 30 (30 Days at the end of the month for the previous months
earnings)."
On the 28th of September we emailed him:
August payments should be processed by the end of this week or next week?
Please advise.
And he replied:
"They will go out by the end of next week."
3) Ignoring emails, using excuses and refusing to go online on AIM or providing screenshots
October 5, 2011
Hi Anthony,
Can I ask if our payment for August should be processed soon?
We received most payments from all the other networks, so please let me know what's the status?
[Email ignored]
October 6, 2011 - 1:02 AM UK Time
Anthony?
[Email ignored]
October 6, 2011 - 7:36 AM UK Time
Anthony,
Can I get a response from you regarding this?
You said by the end of this week, and we're on Thursday.
You told me Net30 payments.
Clearly there is no reason to hold payment when we got payments just fine from all the other networks.
I have no idea what's going on - can you please reply to me?
Anthony: Im currently away this week. I'll get back to you.
October 6, 2011 - 7:36 AM UK Time
When?
There is no other person who can respond?
October 6, 2011 - 8:13 AM UK Time
Anthony: I'll email you back in a few hours
October 6, 2011 - 3:17 PM UK Time
Anthony?
You promised to respond "in a few hours", been 7 hours since.
October 6, 2011 - 5:36 PM UK Time
Anthony: Was asleep, give me a few minutes.
October 6, 2011 - 6:02 PM UK Time
Can you get online on AIM or is there any way to properly communicate with you?
It's really bringing our faith level to the bottom when I cannot get proper communication from you.
I'd like just to sort out August payment please, you promised to process it by the end of this week.
October 6, 2011 - 6:10 PM UK Time
Anthony: Im currently on the West Coast, moving into my new place this week. Im currently in a hotel that has horrible internet. I will try to get on AIM later this afternoon.
October 6, 2011 - 6:24 PM UK Time
Can you please stop with these jokes?
It takes less than a minute to process a payment - why are you using excuses and cannot just stand once behind your words?
I don't understand how exactly you run a network this way.
October 6, 2011 - 6:25 PM UK Time
Anthony: These aren't jokes or excuses. But regardless I'll try to get on AIM this afternoon.
October 6, 2011 - 6:34 PM UK Time
Okay, looking forward. I'm there
[waiting 2 hours without bothering him or sending emails]
October 6, 2011 - 8:31 PM UK Time
Anthony,
Are you going to be online soon?
October 6, 2011 - 9:23 PM UK Time
Anthony?
October 6, 2011 - 10:05 PM UK Time
Anthony, are you there?
October 6, 2011 - 10:05 PM UK Time
Anthony: I'll be on AIM in 45 mins.
October 6, 2011 - 10:55 PM UK Time
Okay, I'm waiting ....
50 minutes now, but I'm waiting.
October 6, 2011 - 11:10 PM UK Time
Anthony?
October 6, 2011 - 11:11 PM UK Time
Anthony: Sorry on my way home. Give me 5 mins.
October 6, 2011 - 11:31 PM UK Time
20 minutes ago .... "give me 5 minutes" ... come on man,
It's frustrating.
October 6, 2011 - 11:34 PM UK Time
Anthony: Hit traffic almost there.
October 6, 2011 - 11:36 PM UK Time
It's just a matter of payment and you really enjoy giving me all these hassles?
How come you can send me emails but you cannot go online?
October 6, 2011 - 11:40 PM UK Time
It's almost midnight in the UK but I'm staying just for the chat.
October 6, 2011 - 11:42 PM UK Time
Anthony: I will send your payment on Saturday.
October 6, 2011 - 11:48 PM UK Time
Okay, can you still go on AIM please?
[Email ignored]
October 6, 2011 - 11:54 PM UK Time
I have sent another email to Anthony asking about some of the offers in his network, he replied immediately after 5 minutes.
October 7, 2011 - 12:12 AM UK Time
Don't want to push it so much but really - is there any reason for the payment to be made on Saturday and not today?
I'd like to get more details please, hence this is why I wanted to chat on AIM.
October 7, 2011 - 12:20 AM UK Time
Anthony: I don't have much time to sit town as Im moving. This weekend i will have time.
October 7, 2011 - 9:26 AM UK Time
Hi Anthony,
To make it easier for you I've raised an invoice through PayPal and all you need to do is 1 click to pay it, it doesn't take more time than the time it takes you to send me an email. I could do it even if I moved 5 houses in a week.
October 7, 2011 - 4:26 AM UK Time
Anthony,
Can we expect to trust your word saying this will be processed tomorrow?
[Email ignored]
[Following day....]
October 8, 2011 - 8:03 PM UK Time
Anthony,
You promised to pay today and you didn't.
Why are you ignoring our emails?
October 8, 2011 - 9:28 PM UK Time
Anthony: You need to realize there is a time difference. Just because i don't reply right away doesn't mean im ignoring.
October 8, 2011 - 9:40 PM UK Time
I understand.
I emailed you a few days ago informing you about the PayPal invoice that I sent with no response.
I emailed you yesterday asking if we can trust your word - with no response.
I am fed up with these repeated empty promises, you promised to pay earlier Net15 terms, then Net20 terms, then Net30 terms, then the end of the week, then today ... so what's up? we never ever had to chase any network, ever, for payments like this - just try not to frustrate your publisher and think of the picture from our side and not only from yours.
Anyway speaking of payments is it going to be made today?
I hope this is not another empty promise.
October 8, 2011 - 9:49 PM UK Time
Anthony: Yes it is.
Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 1:06 AM
Okay, I'm still waiting.
Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 3:04 AM
You're leaving it for the last moment?
Is it possible to get some updates from you already?
Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 3:23 AM
Anthony: I sent it a few hours ago
Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 3:30 AM
We haven't received anything to our PayPal account.
Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 3:49 AM
Anthony: I'll go look at the issue and resend it
Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 3:58 AM
When?
It takes only a second to do that...
You refuse to chat through AIM and I have no way to communicate with you, only through emails.
Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 3:58 AM
Anthony: I have not refused i have been busy.
