Post your Arbitrage Stats
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since i have started my own arbi campaign might as well display my results though disappointing.
Revenue: $23
Cost: $19
Problem: CTR
this is for one page only (it's the only one i have) i have to make this profitable before making other pages rapidly
truly my profit is disgusting
Revenue: $23
Cost: $19
Problem: CTR
this is for one page only (it's the only one i have) i have to make this profitable before making other pages rapidly
truly my profit is disgusting
no, you don't have to make "this one profitable"
sometimes (and quite often) niches you try end up being shit
to get an actual ctr divide number of clicks by number of visitors in 7search or your other traffic source, not adsense. That was mistake I did thinking I had low CTR by looking at adsense stats, when in fact it was high.
to get good ctr wrap your ads around your text on top, left
Code:
<div>
<div style="float: left;">
adsense code
</div>
text
I'm seeing quite a few people spending very little money, like under five dollars, and making $30-$50 on it. With an ROI that high, you're probably bidding too low, and you'd get a lot more traffic and profit if you spent a bit more. For example my best term was just plodding along making me like $4/day (still pretty good compared to most) when I was bidding $0.06, but I was getting a really high ROI and wasn't placing well in 7Search so I bumped my bid up to $0.14 and wow, $20-$50/day profit now from that one term. That's really unusual but that's the kind of thing that happens a lot on a lesser scale when I bump my bid up a little. Most really new people seem to be stuck on getting a really high ROI when that's not really the best way to optimize for profit.
Since I started this thread my stats have changed a lot... I'm doing around $80-$100/day profit now. I'm gonna spend the new few days rewriting my scripts and pages to give me some better tracking/testing capabilities and then I'll be adding new sources... I'm all 7Search for now.
Since I started this thread my stats have changed a lot... I'm doing around $80-$100/day profit now. I'm gonna spend the new few days rewriting my scripts and pages to give me some better tracking/testing capabilities and then I'll be adding new sources... I'm all 7Search for now.
I'm about 3 weeks in, spend ~$50/day make about $50/day(profit)...scaling has been my problem so far as I haven't been able to to automation yet.
Nearly at $1500 gross at this point.
Also, getting enough traffic has been a problem, but following the info on this forum has help a ton.
Nearly at $1500 gross at this point.
Also, getting enough traffic has been a problem, but following the info on this forum has help a ton.
Does anyone have a spreadsheet with variables that they plugin to figure out what max bid price will give them the maximum profit that they'd like to share?
You could plugin old data .. CTR, Impressions, Cost Per lead, etc and find the max bid.
You could plugin old data .. CTR, Impressions, Cost Per lead, etc and find the max bid.
I'm new, but I am targeting niches that pay 2:1. I use eCPM and Bid value to determin it, and wait until atleast 40-100 impressions are calculated. First, I have been bidding high to get enough clicks to get a viable eCPM, then adjust the bids to ~1/2 of the ecpm (lower if lots of traffic is coming at a cheaper price). As long as the ranking of the keyword is better than spot 5, I figure it'll work out in the long run.
Setec;
How many arbi sites are you running on that profit? And how many 7search visitors do you get daily? (but perhaps you do Adwords for traffic as well?)
How many arbi sites are you running on that profit? And how many 7search visitors do you get daily? (but perhaps you do Adwords for traffic as well?)
That's not possible, because of the amount of traffic you'll get by raising your bid isn't calculable from known variables. It depends on what everybody else is bidding. A $0.05 bid raise might not bump you a single spot in the listings... or it might bump you to the top. If you want to perfectly optimize profit for each niche, you've got to play around with it manually. Getting all the data to calculate the perfect bid isn't really worth the time, but some quick tweaks in the right direction can really help. Doesn't have to be perfect.
That's from 151 profitable active sites (I've built over 200 but a lot were duds). I'm getting around 700 visitors daily, all from 7Search. My next step is to branch out to other PPC sources.
Yes, but you can plug in your variables after you have adequate data. If you want to be really fancy you can interpolate between high and low bids with known traffic to estimate traffic and ROI for a given bid.
Yeah, but the traffic received as a function of bid value is very non-linear, so any interpolation will be really unreliable.
You could figure out roughly how much traffic you'll get from the 7Search network as a function of ad position and monthly searches, then test every single bid value to see what position for the term it gives you in the affiliate network. Then you could actually calculate the perfect bid. It would be a huge waste of time to do it manually, though, especially since it will change whenever one of your competitors updates his bids. You could write a script automate it with PHP/CURL, and that might actually be a pretty good idea, although it would make a LOT of hits to 7Search's server if you did it for every bid and term, so they might get suspicious.
i don't do much besides take the highest volume words for the top paying sites - and then look to see the bids - then adjust bids on only those words as needed. The other long tail words I just leave at a certain cap rate.
Has worked fine for me so far, though of course as sophisticated as the methods mentioned above...
Has worked fine for me so far, though of course as sophisticated as the methods mentioned above...
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