Post your Arbitrage Stats

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droolingmnky said:
I started ~ two weeks ago

Spent: $5.17
Earned: $7.86
Profit: $2.69

ROI: 1.52:1
Total visitors bought: 114
Total ad clicks: 10
avg CTR: 6%
Average paid for a click: $0.05
Average made for an ad click: $0.74-$0.76
Number of pages: 1
Traffic source(s): 7Search
Ad network(s): Adsense

In the beginning I was getting a ROI of 29:1 I kept toying with it until it dropped to what it is now. I'm playing with a limited budget so I'm just taking my time trying to figure out what works.
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Looks like you have a big opportunity just by increasing your CTR. Have you tried tweaking your page at all, and if so, have you seen an increase or decrease in CTR?

If you're not sure what should be tweaked, post a wireframe or screenie with everything blurred, and you'll get suggestions on how to mod your page to help CTR.
 


Ok, here's the results from yesterday to today when my account went inactive after my remaining balance was used up:

Spent: $23.57
Earned: $13.08
Profit: -$10.49

ROI: zero
Total visitors bought: 475
Total ad clicks: 240
avg CTR: 44%
Average paid for a click: $0.05
Average made for an ad click: $.05
Number of pages: 1
Traffic source(s): 7Search
Ad network(s): Adsense

Postives: Excellent CTR and traffic even though none of my KW's were in the Top 5 on the 7Search Affiliate Network.
 
Alright, here I'll go.
After my initial, great results came the fall- mostly brought down by an underperfroming second site. The first site still made a meager profit and has a CTR of 12,55%.


 Spent: $15.19
Earned: $11.61
Profit: -$03.58
ROI: 0
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Visitors: 487
ad clicks: 32
avg CTR: 6.57
$spent perClick: $0.05
$earned perClick: $.36
Number of pages: 2
Number of Domains: 1
Traffic source(s): Searchfeed, 7Search (3!!)
Ad network(s): Adsense

Negatives: Meager CTR, need to improve on that. Took too long to kill the second page.

Positives: OK earnings per click. Good content sites kept earnings up when arbitrage was down.

here is a detailed view:

Earned Spent Profit CTR Clicks Earn per Click
Page 1 0,54 5,1 -4,56 0,81% 2 0,27
Page 2 11,07 10,09 0,98 12,55% 30 0,37
Both 11,61 15,19 -3,58 6,57% 32 0,36

That was a bitch to set up.
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The problem I see is that most of you guys spending so little money while also making/losing little money. If you want to get serious about this pay up. Spend $400 on a one or a two day campaign and dont be affraid to lose $100 or more. Arbitrage is like gambling so how do you expect to make much money if your stakes are so low?
 
Actually, this is the first stage. Basically, trying to find out what works.

To use your analogy to gambling:

Once I know what horses to set on, I need to spend loads of money to win loads of money.

While I am still learning the ropes, I keep the bets low.

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Adsense Loser said:
The problem I see is that most of you guys spending so little money while also making/losing little money. If you want to get serious about this pay up. Spend $400 on a one or a two day campaign and dont be affraid to lose $100 or more. Arbitrage is like gambling so how do you expect to make much money if your stakes are so low?
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arbitrage is not gambling at all, dont' listen to this tool. if you are losing $, lower your bids. everything (almost) can be profitable. one thing toolbag gets right is you chumps need to spend more, you guys spend is a joke and hard to get anything meaningful from.
 
Adsense Loser,

Where do you propose we spend $400 in a day or two? I've carefully micromanaged my campaigns on 7Search and I'm in position 1 for most of my terms on their affiliate network, including several with over 100K searches. I'm carefully tracking my CTR and EPC niche-by-niche and spending exactly what I must to get in a high position but maintain a good ROI. For some niches that's $0.08 and for others it's $0.24. If I was much better at writing ads and bidding well, I would still probably only squeeze about 50% more traffic out of it and be spending no more than $30-40/day.

I'm experimenting now with one campaign on MSN AdCenter but don't have enough data to know how it's going. I've thought of doing AdWords too but I don't know if the recent changes would allow me to make low bids for an arbi page.

So where is all this extra volume supposed to come from? Other search networks? Or hundreds/thousands of auto-generated niches?
 
engaged said:
one thing toolbag gets right is you chumps need to spend more, you guys spend is a joke and hard to get anything meaningful from.
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Well forgive me for sharing my dismal stats.

Not everyone has barrels of money to withdraw from, so I guess I'll just wait till I find my goldmine and then only share my great results so everyone else can ask me "what is your site?" or "what are your kw's?" and so it seems then that I am another arbitrage god to all the others here, eh?
 
scott said:
Well forgive me for sharing my dismal stats.

Not everyone has barrels of money to withdraw from, so I guess I'll just wait till I find my goldmine and then only share my great results so everyone else can ask me "what is your site?" or "what are your kw's?" and so it seems then that I am another arbitrage god to all the others here, eh?
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no one asks me that. im saying.. spending $5 a day is NOTHING. If you don't have a credit card where you can spend $100/day, then I don't know how you expected to get started. This is a volume thing. Don't be mad at me buddy.
 
Setec said:
Adsense Loser,

So where is all this extra volume supposed to come from? Other search networks? Or hundreds/thousands of auto-generated niches?
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It would come from more sites and new search networks. Once you get tons of pages built picks a higher volume search network like Yahoo Search Marketing. Don't use the content network. Focus just on the search.
 
engaged said:
no one asks me that. im saying.. spending $5 a day is NOTHING. If you don't have a credit card where you can spend $100/day, then I don't know how you expected to get started. This is a volume thing. Don't be mad at me buddy.
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1. I have a credit card.
2. I spent $25 dollars today.
3. I understand it's a volume thing.
4. Fuck, I'm trying. Guess I'll just crawl back under my rock for now till I'm a success like you.

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i dont know why you arent saling, automating, etc. 50+ niches/day is no problem... takes about 2hrs
 
I have no idea how you build so many sites that fast, at least not if you're researching them first and writing them yourself. I've got a pretty efficient research process figured out to find the highest paying keywords in my niche and target them. Then I have to actually write the text. Even though it's shitty copy and I'm keyword cramming, I try to write coherent sentences. My best template requires a few pictures, too. Each page takes 15-30 minutes to build, not counting 5 minutes of keyword research.

Are you just pulling niches completely at random, spitting out auto-generated pages, and sorting out the ones that don't work later?
 
Here is what I do to get content, with php I scrape google with this command
"site:wikipedia.org keyword"
take the first result and scrape the content from it into a textarea, I do a little manual editing.. im still working on the regular expressions to clear it all off.. I also use some generic ass templates where I insert the keyword

yadda yadda yadda {keyword} yadda yadda

And I stick this all under the fold beneith some ads.
 
Exactly. There is not a single step that cannot be automated. Niche research, webpage content, pictures, keyword research, everything.

You can crank 100 or so an hour just by scripting the entire process.
 
Palmerville said:
Exactly. There is not a single step that cannot be automated. Niche research, webpage content, pictures, keyword research, everything.

You can crank 100 or so an hour just by scripting the entire process.
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where would one begin though if you have no knowledge of how to do that? I would imagine learning PHP would take some time but I'm sure its a valuable skill to have. I woudlnt mind hiring a coder to automate some of this but I'm at a loss as to what to even tell him to get started. How do you go about automating keyword and niche research?
 
Break down what you do now into steps. How do you find niches now?

You don't need any mad coder skillz. Just basic batch scripting or any shell language.
 
I ran my stats and I made my $48 in profit last night. It took me a few days to get it right. You should be making at least 5 to 10% minimum on your return. So if you spend 1.00, you should make 1.05.

However, I ran a new ad over night based on a very popular keyword. the keyword had nothing to do with my niche. I got in over 200 clicks but I noticed my CTR dropped 5%. So you have to experiment.

Start with a sum of $10 and see how that does. If you're not able to generate at least 10.50 then you better start tweaking your keywords, ad copy, and landing page.
 
engaged said:
i dont know why you arent saling, automating, etc. 50+ niches/day is no problem... takes about 2hrs
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Palmerville said:
Exactly. There is not a single step that cannot be automated. Niche research, webpage content, pictures, keyword research, everything.

You can crank 100 or so an hour just by scripting the entire process.
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Do you guys automate your keyword bidding as well or just your page generation?

I set up a about 20 niches/pages and they are making about $200/month, but the amount of time it takes me to set up the ad campaigns for each niche isn't worth it to me.... so I quit.
 
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