I read parts of the stimulus bill yesterday, and it pretty much sucks. You can read the stimulus bill at readthestimulus.org. How this bill is going to give people more jobs, I don't know. It's just a bunch of democrat/ socialist spending. People would be pissed off about it if they knew how much of this bill is crap. Get the PDF of the bill from the site, and search through it with the text "000,000,000" to find out where the billions are going. It'll make you sick.
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This seems more like a gigantic welfare package than an economic stimulus package.
Way to keep people on the system Washington.
Way to keep people on the system Washington.
About half of it is tax cuts. I don't see how anyone can complain about getting $500+ in tax cuts.
And with all the tax breaks for small businesses, affiliates should be in love with this bill.
And with all the tax breaks for small businesses, affiliates should be in love with this bill.
It's spooky that politicians, knowing full well this will be one of the most read and visible bills of all time, DO NOT CARE about hiding their shady underhanded pork spending and obviously unpopular social engineering.
Is it just me, or have the people completely lost control of the government?
Is it just me, or have the people completely lost control of the government?
Defender of Freedom, Liberty and Constitutional Integrity checking in!
edit: No need for my version. Everyone that doesn't have their heads up BO ass knows what this bill really is.
I've been surprised by the conversations I've had lately regarding this stimulus package. It's stunning that people not only know very little, but are so complacent about their lack of knowledge.
I asked an acquaintance yesterday, "Why do you think Obama has been stumping so hard for his bill?" He said, "So people would vote for it."
Say what?!
I've asked others whether they knew that the bill contained certain spending measures. Most items were a surprise to them.
Here's a sobering experiment...
Ask a friend or family member where they think the stimulus money is coming from. Then, listen to the responses. I've even heard, "Aren't we selling off the assets that TARP bought?"
** sigh **
I've mentioned this before: I certainly don't consider U.S. citizens stupid. But, I do believe that most are unwilling to think critically. And that's a politician's dream constituent.
I asked an acquaintance yesterday, "Why do you think Obama has been stumping so hard for his bill?" He said, "So people would vote for it."
Say what?!
I've asked others whether they knew that the bill contained certain spending measures. Most items were a surprise to them.
Here's a sobering experiment...
Ask a friend or family member where they think the stimulus money is coming from. Then, listen to the responses. I've even heard, "Aren't we selling off the assets that TARP bought?"
** sigh **
I've mentioned this before: I certainly don't consider U.S. citizens stupid. But, I do believe that most are unwilling to think critically. And that's a politician's dream constituent.
Senator Bob Nelson (Nebraska) announcing the House/Senate compromise...
"Today you might call us the 'jobs squad,' " said Nelson, one of the key negotiators. "Because that's what we're attempting to do: to make sure that people will have the opportunity to hang on to their jobs that they have today, and they'll be able to get jobs if they lose their jobs."
Source: Agreement reached on proposed stimulus bill - CNN.com
I believe I felt a few of my brain cells dying as I read that.
"Today you might call us the 'jobs squad,' " said Nelson, one of the key negotiators. "Because that's what we're attempting to do: to make sure that people will have the opportunity to hang on to their jobs that they have today, and they'll be able to get jobs if they lose their jobs."
Source: Agreement reached on proposed stimulus bill - CNN.com
I believe I felt a few of my brain cells dying as I read that.
What was the cost? You make it sound like it's all wrapped up and paid for. There are plenty of experts out there that expect the total cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to exceed three trillion dollars.
The Iraq War Will Cost Us $3 Trillion, and Much More - washingtonpost.com
Financial cost of the Iraq War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
According to a Congressional Budget Office (CBO) report published in October 2007, the U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan could cost taxpayers a total of $2.4 trillion dollars by 2017 when counting the huge interest costs because combat is being financed with borrowed money. The CBO estimated that of the $2.4 trillion long-term price tag for the war, about $1.9 trillion of that would be spent on Iraq.[5]
Stiglitz, former chief economist of the World Bank and winner of the Nobel Prize in Economics, has stated the total costs of the Iraq War on the US economy will be three trillion dollars in a moderate scenario, and possibly more in the most recent published study, published in March 2008.[6] Stiglitz has stated: "The figure we arrive at is more than $3 trillion. Our calculations are based on conservative assumptions. They are conceptually simple, even if occasionally technically complicated. A $3 trillion figure for the total cost strikes us as judicious, and probably errs on the low side. Needless to say, this number represents the cost only to the United States. It does not reflect the enormous cost to the rest of the world, or to Iraq."[6]
The stupid thing is that the final draft came out just last night, and they're voting on it today. There isn't a searchable PDF of the final bill available, either.
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To: Senate Majority Leader Reid, President Obama
Americans face a time of great economic challenge, and have watched with equally great interest as the House of Representatives and now the Senate have crafted legislation designed to address that challenge.
Last night, news of a compromise was announced in the Senate that would provide the sixty votes required to move the bill forward. As of the writing, however, the full details of the compromise have not been made public, and no legislative text has been published for open review.
Majority Leader Reid, we ask that you publish the full legislative text of the compromise immediately, and furthermore, to delay any vote on the bill for at least five days following publication. The American public deserves time to read and understand the substance of this critical legislation, and to express their views to their Senators.
Mr. President, you have pledged that once legislation is passed by Congress, it will be placed online for public review for five days before your signature. In the same spirit, we ask you to add your voice to those encouraging Majority Leader Reid to publish this compromise bill and to allow time for public review during the critical period before the Senate votes.
The American public is watching, and we hope that you both will take these crucial steps to allow citizens to fully understand and participate in the workings of their government.
Sincerely,
Rob Neppell, ReadtheStimulus.org
Michelle Malkin, MichelleMalkin.com
Bill Wilson, Americans for Limited Government
Phil Kerpen, Americans for Prosperity
Kristina Rasmussen, National Taxpayers Union
Matt Kibbe, FreedomWorks
Joshua Treviño, Treviño Strategies and Media, Inc.
Clay Shirky, Shirky.com
Amber Gunn, Evergreen Freedom Foundation
Bill Goodwin, FreedomPolitics.com
Liza Sabater, culturekitchen.com
David Weller, All Things Reform
Thomas Lord, Basiscraft.com
WashingtonWatch.com
Glenn Reynolds, Instapundit.com
Erick Erickson, RedState.com
Andrew F. Quinlan, Center for Freedom and Prosperity
Michael Patrick Leahy, Top Conservatives on Twitter
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February 7, 2009
To: Senate Majority Leader Reid, President Obama
Americans face a time of great economic challenge, and have watched with equally great interest as the House of Representatives and now the Senate have crafted legislation designed to address that challenge.
Last night, news of a compromise was announced in the Senate that would provide the sixty votes required to move the bill forward. As of the writing, however, the full details of the compromise have not been made public, and no legislative text has been published for open review.
Majority Leader Reid, we ask that you publish the full legislative text of the compromise immediately, and furthermore, to delay any vote on the bill for at least five days following publication. The American public deserves time to read and understand the substance of this critical legislation, and to express their views to their Senators.
Mr. President, you have pledged that once legislation is passed by Congress, it will be placed online for public review for five days before your signature. In the same spirit, we ask you to add your voice to those encouraging Majority Leader Reid to publish this compromise bill and to allow time for public review during the critical period before the Senate votes.
The American public is watching, and we hope that you both will take these crucial steps to allow citizens to fully understand and participate in the workings of their government.
Sincerely,
Rob Neppell, ReadtheStimulus.org
Michelle Malkin, MichelleMalkin.com
Bill Wilson, Americans for Limited Government
Phil Kerpen, Americans for Prosperity
Kristina Rasmussen, National Taxpayers Union
Matt Kibbe, FreedomWorks
Joshua Treviño, Treviño Strategies and Media, Inc.
Clay Shirky, Shirky.com
Amber Gunn, Evergreen Freedom Foundation
Bill Goodwin, FreedomPolitics.com
Liza Sabater, culturekitchen.com
David Weller, All Things Reform
Thomas Lord, Basiscraft.com
WashingtonWatch.com
Glenn Reynolds, Instapundit.com
Erick Erickson, RedState.com
Andrew F. Quinlan, Center for Freedom and Prosperity
Michael Patrick Leahy, Top Conservatives on Twitter
Read My Lipstick Network
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