Ryan Eagle's 2nd Chance, Time to Forgive?

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Hey kiddies, still want to be a child star like Ryan Eagle or Harrison Gevirtz? You haven't missed your chance! Although EWA went bankrupt, they MAY have a few businesses left over waiting to earn your trust.

Obey.my - This site is loaded with fun Ryanisms including Illuminati symbols and a staff that is waiting to seize your traffic. Just say the secret code words "Sleeper Cell" to any staff member and they just might pay you a fraction of your earnings!

Levelupads.com - If you believed the beef between Ryan and EWA's ex-affiliate manager Andre was real, then this site is for you! Ryan has nooo stake in this company, he promises!

WolfStormMedia.com and CPATank.com - Two CPA networks Ryan Eagle just happens to pay affpaying.com to advertise. He has no stake in these companies either! They will work to earn every bit of your trust.

Also don't forget: "Eagle Web Assets Inc. is a privately owned debt free Internet advertising corporation focused on building, acquiring and investing in next-generation companies." Any of you who were mislead by believing EWA was "debt free" may have a right to sue. Ask your lawyers! Although you may want to show mercy. After all, Ryan Eagle would never do anything to mislead anyone, right?
 
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Somebody recently pointed out that in EWA Closing door threads about "Obey" flash in white when you open the homepage of Someone named - Rishabh Verma ( of Verma Web Holdings ? ) is CEO of company.

The way Obey.my has been marketing is very very similar to that of EWA

The homepage has :

OBEY Network is a Private Network For High Volume Affiliates By High Volume Affiliates You Probably Won't Get In.
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Our user Dollar was screwed 35k$ by CPArev, which was Rishab Verma company. His handle on WF is supersundas

His response was

How does a network "seem" to be scamming people and sending fraud traffic? What reviewing have you done, besides hurr durring all day. Your claim is incompetent here because Rishab (me), Joe, Josh, and Paul happen to have some pretty strong and sturdy relationships. Hydra did not get burned by Elitecommission, and the reason elitecommission had problems in its past was incentive fraud affiliates. Many networks know what happens when incentive traffic goes out of control, and that happened to be the cause for downfall for elitecommission. The brand does not exist anymore, and as far as I know, everybody was paid off. Keep your topic on Cparev and Dustin because this is about Dollars' money, not pointing fingers at random innocent young people who happened to make mistakes when working with dustin.
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And here is he admitting he works for Cparev

PS - I'm not making any point, just gathered some information and posting for you geniuses to analyze.
 
Last time I spoke with Coop at WSM, they haven't been connected with EWA for at least 6 months.
Should get your facts straight broski
 
All these unserious actors creates decadence in affiliate marketing, it's sad.

Why all this fucking straight up scamming (yes, that's the word for it)? So damn unecessary.

Soon the statement "affiliate marketing is dead" will be 100% true comically enough as big companies aren't looking to be associated with villians.
 
People will cross that bridge when he launches his next product, but they should at least be wary of the lessons.

1. His tactics were over the top and ridiculous. Anyone who makes real $ is taught not to flaunt it. Also, always beware of guys that live high on the lifestyle. All businesses ebb and flow, when you're down that humility is necessary, when you're flaunting no one wants to give you a break. When people's business ebb, they never want to take that jump back in lifestyle. Anyone who flaunts their material possessions, is foolish, and really probably isn't that well off. In simpler terms, people who make $ shut the fuck up about it, and go on and make $.

2. The affiliate network model is utter and total trash. These guys provide absolutely no value. They say they get you the best offer but they all have the same offers. They say they guarantee payment, clearly that's not the case. All these guys do is borrow money, get you better payment terms, and take a cut which ends up most likely eating into your payout. I have a test, find a network and an offer, go direct, and ask them to match it, let me know what happens. You're much better going direct. The affiliate network model rewards scams and short-term money over better, more long term products. Their "tips" and their "newsletters" are bullshit. If they have some amazing way to generate sales, they aren't dishign it out, and if you kick ass, you run the risk of them copying you. Go direct.

Pretty soon, all affiliate networks will be dead unless they provide real value. Not really sure what value they can provide, maybe someone can be innovative, I just don't see it right now. Surprised this isn't where the conversation is going.

How many major affiliate networks have died vs how many are still in business? The tide is going back out, and the world is correcting itself.
 
Business with low barrier of entry = lots of unprofessional fuckheads scraping their way through. What do you guys expect, seriously? As always, just exercise caution and stay away from people who don't present themselves professionally.
 
abyss_vee said:
People will cross that bridge when he launches his next product, but they should at least be wary of the lessons.

1. His tactics were over the top and ridiculous. Anyone who makes real $ is taught not to flaunt it. Also, always beware of guys that live high on the lifestyle. All businesses ebb and flow, when you're down that humility is necessary, when you're flaunting no one wants to give you a break. When people's business ebb, they never want to take that jump back in lifestyle. Anyone who flaunts their material possessions, is foolish, and really probably isn't that well off. In simpler terms, people who make $ shut the fuck up about it, and go on and make $.

2. The affiliate network model is utter and total trash. These guys provide absolutely no value. They say they get you the best offer but they all have the same offers. They say they guarantee payment, clearly that's not the case. All these guys do is borrow money, get you better payment terms, and take a cut which ends up most likely eating into your payout. I have a test, find a network and an offer, go direct, and ask them to match it, let me know what happens. You're much better going direct. The affiliate network model rewards scams and short-term money over better, more long term products. Their "tips" and their "newsletters" are bullshit. If they have some amazing way to generate sales, they aren't dishign it out, and if you kick ass, you run the risk of them copying you. Go direct.

Pretty soon, all affiliate networks will be dead unless they provide real value. Not really sure what value they can provide, maybe someone can be innovative, I just don't see it right now. Surprised this isn't where the conversation is going.

How many major affiliate networks have died vs how many are still in business? The tide is going back out, and the world is correcting itself.
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Networks can provide value in the fact that "some" are convenient. Not everyone has the tools to go direct and if you do, they will pay biweekly or most of the time monthly.

As a newbie, the once a month wire isn't going to cut it. Traffic, domains, hosting, etc all host money. You pay for the convenience of logging in, grabbing a link and on with your day to focus on other things.

BUT if the only option in the future was to go direct, it would make the playing field a little easier and barrier of entry much higher.
 
It's impossible for ANYONE to have doubt that Ryan Eagle owns Obey, lettuce be cereal for a second:

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A screenshot from his Facebook Page taken yesterday... I was talking about that "Obey" pop up months ago.

1) http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-shit/166078-how-can-ewa-get-away-not-paying-fuck.html#post1891969

2) http://www.wickedfire.com/affiliate-marketing/164524-ewa-owes-me-7k.html#post1869332

3) http://www.wickedfire.com/affiliate-marketing/164524-ewa-owes-me-7k.html#post1869263

How can anyone at this point doubt Mr. Eagle's involvement in Obey.my? Why would he still have all this Obey propoganda up? (http://www.facebook.com/ryaneagleewa?fref=ts)
 
People will forgive Ryan when he pays everybody that he owes money to.
He basically stole everybody's money to fund his lifestyle of watches and cars.
He kept accepting traffic and not paying anybody.
Most likely he will re emerge with a new company doing the same thing again claiming what a great guy he is. I hope this is not the case.

If he is a great guy that cares about peeople he will make it his mission to pay back every cent to every affiliate he has scammed with interest. Even if it takes him a lifetime.
Untill he does this nobody should forgive him or do business with him ever again.
If somebody owes you $5000 he owes you $5000.
If 10 years later he finally has the cash he should pay you back then no excuse.

Lets see if Ryan is truly a scammer or an honest person. Time will tell.
 
Hello everyone, I am Andre D. Ramsey. I wanted to come on here because someone brought this thread to my attention, and I'd like to set the record straight for those of you who are interested in the truth. I was responsible for running BlamAds as an employee of Ryan Eagle and Eagle Web Assets with the title VP of Incentive Operations from February 2010 – October 2012.

When we launched Blam in the summer of 2010, things went well for a long time and we had quite a following of very satisfied affiliates. Ryan Eagle as the owner of BLAM Ads and I as VP disagreed on a number of issues regarding the general management of BLAM and the direction of the company, as is normal with any situation involving a team environment. However, around the first quarter of 2012, I started receiving a considerable number of complaints from both my account managers and affiliates that the payments they were to receive from the EWA accounting office weren't being sent on time- sometimes not at all.
I personally met with both Tom and Ryan Eagle on numerous occasions on behalf of my Affiliates and Affiliate Mangers to get to the bottom of these issues and to get affiliates payments expedited. As VP, I was only privy to affiliate operations of the company and not the back office accounting. From my perspective BLAM Ads was cash positive based on network stats and I could not understand why affiliates continued to be paid late.

I poured my life into BLAM Ads, and it frustrated me to see my blood, sweat, and tears falling apart based on things out of my control and all the decisions affecting the company being made by the owners to which I was not privy. During these discussions I informed the owners, that I could not in good conscience manage the company if BLAM continued in the direction it was going. Subsequently, on Oct 17th, 2012 I was told my services was no longer needed. I’ve not spoken to Ryan Eagle since.

A month following, Ben Cagle from Society Invite and MMDCash and I began discussing a partnership opportunity and on 11/15/2012 we forged a partnership to form LevelUpAds, LLC. This partnership brings both my experience and success together with his reputation for always paying his publishers and he has always been well respected in the industry. So when publishers come to LevelUpAds, they are not just joining another network, but are partnering with a team with over 30 years of collective manage experience, is financially backed, and has responsible leadership. Our company is fully independent and has no connection to Eagle Web Assets, Inc. Ryan Eagle or any of his partners.

The damage done from the collapse of EWA is felt throughout the industry; from the many employees that trusted Ryan, Harrison and Tom working countless hours to help build up EWA and BLAM Ads, and the thousands of affiliates whom not only lost their earnings but also trust in network owners and the industry as a whole, and to the unseen personal friends of Ryan Eagle whom have been negatively affected by these events.

Please contact me for further discussion via PM as I’d love to clear up any additional misconceptions.
 
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You forgot:

SocietyInvite
StuckAds

Ryan is part of them both. Don't hate me cuz im gay, it's just the truth.
 
abyss_vee said:
People will cross that bridge when he launches his next product, but they should at least be wary of the lessons.

1. His tactics were over the top and ridiculous. Anyone who makes real $ is taught not to flaunt it. Also, always beware of guys that live high on the lifestyle. All businesses ebb and flow, when you're down that humility is necessary, when you're flaunting no one wants to give you a break. When people's business ebb, they never want to take that jump back in lifestyle. Anyone who flaunts their material possessions, is foolish, and really probably isn't that well off. In simpler terms, people who make $ shut the fuck up about it, and go on and make $.

2. The affiliate network model is utter and total trash. These guys provide absolutely no value. They say they get you the best offer but they all have the same offers. They say they guarantee payment, clearly that's not the case. All these guys do is borrow money, get you better payment terms, and take a cut which ends up most likely eating into your payout. I have a test, find a network and an offer, go direct, and ask them to match it, let me know what happens. You're much better going direct. The affiliate network model rewards scams and short-term money over better, more long term products. Their "tips" and their "newsletters" are bullshit. If they have some amazing way to generate sales, they aren't dishign it out, and if you kick ass, you run the risk of them copying you. Go direct.

Pretty soon, all affiliate networks will be dead unless they provide real value. Not really sure what value they can provide, maybe someone can be innovative, I just don't see it right now. Surprised this isn't where the conversation is going.

How many major affiliate networks have died vs how many are still in business? The tide is going back out, and the world is correcting itself.
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Bingo

No value in CPA networks at all. They perpetuate the scamvertisers and the spammers most on this forum will disagree because they fall in the scam or spam category
 
Whatsmyname said:
Bingo

No value in CPA networks at all. They perpetuate the scamvertisers and the spammers most on this forum will disagree because they fall in the scam or spam category
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You sir, and everyone that shares this opinion, is an asshat.

Funny enough, I don't blame you for having this opinion, though. Too many failures from too many people who didn't know how to run a business properly gave many people this impression. But it's wrong.

I can write a huge tl;dr post on what value networks bring, but I have the feeling you'd just ignore it anyway.

I can tell you this, from direct experience, you'd get fucked WAY more often with direct relationships, than you do with networks run by amateurs.
 
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