This.
There is a gigantic difference between a real CPA network and the shitpile that was EWA.
Really, if your world was rocked by the collapse of EWA then you're a worthless peasant anyway.
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This.
There is a gigantic difference between a real CPA network and the shitpile that was EWA.
Really, if your world was rocked by the collapse of EWA then you're a worthless peasant anyway.
What value?
Ads like this one spammed on Facebook?
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Steve you can't point to one honest campaign or advertiser let alone 10
The only asshat is you for spreading the cool aid that CPA networks provide value they only provide a place for scams to hide
We can go post for post I bet I find more shady campaigns that you find honest ones, ready to start?
Orlando FL? Time share leads or time share leads?
If its not time share its the robo calls for lowering your credit card interest
That's all they know how to market in Orlando
Negative, although I am a principal for a pretty large call center. (1,200 seats, mostly inbound)
Vacation stuff is only done in clearwater area these days. It's been scummy work for years. Robo calls (press 1, junk recorded messages, etc) has been illegal for a long time.
Play nice children.
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1- Legit campaigns: dating, product sales, gaming, survey companies like Ipsos and Nielsen, credit card sign-ups, EDU, and I can go on.
2- You are mixing arguments. Just because some campaigns are scammy does not make the business of a network worthless.
3- You are most likely a troll. You came around only to stir up shit once the EWA business came to a head. So for falling for it, I guess I am the asshat.
4- Based on your less than astute observations, I'd say you have minimal experience in the business and therefore your comments are really meant to incite responses like this and not really provide insight.
5- CPA campaigns and networks have been around since advertising on the Internet began in the nineties and will continue longer than in the future - ultimately proving that your comments are based on your personal reality and not true reality.
Legit dating like just hookup or true? The legit guys won't touch CPA networks. The heavyweights like match shun this space
Surveys? Like which is better McDonald's or Burger King answer and win a $10000000000 gift card? Anyone ever get the gift card?
Edu? How many edu campaigns you have in your network? Edu is another who works with few in the CPA space and almost ready to exit completely
Steve
Free southwest ticket scams are not legitimate campaigns. Your examples of advertisers reminds me of every networks answer look at these upstanding advertisers we have they make up .0001% of our revenue but they make us look good. Those names you drop make up zero revenue for your network if it all ended tomorrow you won't care. But if you lost one email submit offer the twitterverse might come crashing down
I know this space better than you Steve I may be a troll but I speak the truth
Also in the 90's spam and scams were rampant the shutting down of networks goes to show how the scam and spam attitude of the CPA space will not survive you're being weeded out you're just to dumb to realize it.
Steve if I had this argument with Ryan eagle 12 months ago he would be giving the same responses. In 12 months ill bump this just for you
Lulz
CPA offers are like the crack cocaine of affiliate marketing. Give me a fucking break jack ass. :love-smiley-086:
CPA offers are like the crack cocaine of affiliate marketing. Give me a fucking break jack ass. :love-smiley-086:
See I personally don't care. Idiots will be idiots, someone has to take old ladies for a ride, but Steve's constant Attempt to sound like an alter boy will be his downfall. Steve each time you try to polish the turd called affiliate marketing expect me to troll you
As if being sued by Facebook didnt humble you to just shut up, reminds me of some other guy talked about here
QFT.
I'm certainly not high volume with CPA and I don't know the business well but IMO there are plenty of reasons for publishers to use a network in some circumstances. YMMV but I've been stiffed going direct, never been stiffed by a network. Been shaved, sure, but that just comes with the territory.
Good networks provide tracking, offer variety, established relationships with advertisers, they can be helpful with marketing, and they provide reliable payouts. And I like the peace of mind that comes with knowing that I'll be paid regardless of whether the advertiser pays. Those are reasons enough for me to use a network when I monetize with certain offers.
And saying a network provides no value needs to be qualified. There's value for publishers and advertisers, if not always for end users. Scammy offers are nothing new. Rebills and crap products have been hawked forever in magazines, TV, going back to broadsheets tacked to the front of saloon doors selling snake oil filled with opium. The agencies connecting ads with space and airtime are providing value for the publishers and the advertisers, just the same as CPA networks do on the interbutts. Doesn't mean there aren't plenty of decent products being promoted through the same channels.
Your response clearly shows you know little about me, my network or how I run my business. But in all fairness I can understand why you paint all networks with the same brush if your experiences are all with failed networks who looked at a network as nothing more than a cash register.
12 months from now, MaxBounty will still be in business. Celebrating our 10th anniversary to be exact. There will also be people like you claiming that the CPA model and networks are finished. People have been claiming CPA is dead since its birth. I certainly don't expect it to stop anytime soon.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. While I generalized in an earlier post, I really don't know your experiences and where you are coming from. Just like you don't really know mine.
But I will take you up on that offer to bump this in a year. I know I'll still be here.
You're mistaken if you think people are going to believe that you're no longer in business with Ryan. So you're saying Ryan didn't have you signed to a non-compete which is standard in this industry? So he just let you open up your own network? So your homepage is extremely similar to obey.my and there is no relation?
Can't wait until the feds investigate these assholes. EWA publishers you want your money back? Get it from this guy.
Not all networks are run poorly
I have been in the industry for almost 2 years, i have seen networks fail every quarter. My CEO told me one thing you should do to succeed in this industry, is always pay your publishers, no matter what. If you do that, we all make money, looks like some people would rather relive a rap video from the early 2000s than to quietly save money and invest into improving yourself. It stems from the lack of training needed for the industry and the lack of knowledge of how bottom lines and debt work.
If you guys need financial offers, give Chlamydia a ring. I can assure you you will be paid, as well as informed of how our backend works
I have been in the industry for almost 2 years, i have seen networks fail every quarter. My CEO told me one thing you should do to succeed in this industry, is always pay your publishers, no matter what. If you do that, we all make money, looks like some people would rather relive a rap video from the early 2000s than to quietly save money and invest into improving yourself. It stems from the lack of training needed for the industry and the lack of knowledge of how bottom lines and debt work.
If you guys need financial offers, give Chlamydia a ring. I can assure you you will be paid, as well as informed of how our backend works
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