So much....Shit

GreenHorn

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Okay so I've been lurking here for a bit, trying to get my head around this whole game. Been going through some of the stickys, (although there are a few dead links in there btw). Being a total noob to basically everything affiliate marketing there is a lot of shit to try and "get".

Backlinking, clickbank, SEO, about 46 different colored hats of marketing, a lot of which is probably common to many of you but Christ, it's a bit overwhelming to someone brand new.

I mean I have some ideas on what I'd like to try as far as a niche....I think. But where to go from there is like WTF, I've watched you tube videos on this, looked at some books, lurked here, watched the videos in that thread about the hand holding for newbies (seemed straightforward enough), but I have no idea on things like say an eBook:
Do I write one of them?
Is there a place where someone has one and I can promote it?
Is it worth trying the strategy mentioned in that thread?

Or is it better to do a blog or do a website?
What about a site like Commission Junction? Do I try to get something going there to start out?

I don't want this to come off as a "looking for a handout thread", I'm willing to read and research but there is (or seems like) so much shit to know before I even get started. Am I obsessing over too much here?

As far was what I'm looking to achieve going into this..... Simple. Probably what a lot of people starting out look for. A way to actually see something come out of it. I'm not looking to make 10K a month right off the bat, not that I'd hate it. But I have a bit of a realist in me, I would just like to see something generating anything remotely profitable to offset.......whatever the hell it is I'm supposed to be doing.


So.

If this does go against all that is this site, I'll apologize in advance, go back to lurking and you guys can flame on!















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I agree with the fellas above. Analysis paralysis will not get you very far. Since you've already got an idea of what you'd like to jump into, take the initial steps and get started.

1) pick your niche
2) do your keyword research
3) pick your traffic source
4) build your lander/website
5) set up your tracking
6) add your campaign to your traffic source
7) optimize (kill keywords that aren't converting)
8) scale your campaign
9) start from step 1 again on a new campaign

The more you can go through those steps, the faster you will learn and earn. Of course, your own steps may be slightly different, but the point is to have a system in place and just do it.

Personally, I prefer paid traffic as well because I don't have to wait 3-12 months after I build my sites for the results.
 
Well my biggest issue, I think, at this point is actually monetizing or attempting to monetize the thing. I don't exactly have anything resembling a clue when it comes to what I'm actually going to get people to buy. It would be more of an information thing as opposed to an actual physical product most likely, which I would guess means I would have to come up with all the content then, right?

I have plenty of ideas on what I want to write about (supplying content), it's just I'm not really sure how I go about getting the money aspect lined up.

In other words, let's say (totally not what I'm going to do as a niche) but lets say I want to offer info on how to "build a better mousetrap". I make a landing page send out some emails with info on ways to do so......Then, where the hell does the money get generated?

If it's an eBook then shouldn't I have it written first? Or could I was thinking about doing something like a membership thing instead in order to receive more articles. Is that kind of along the lines I should be going here?

BTW I appreciate the answers so far.
 
When you look up your proposed niche in googles keyword tool, is there any competition for your keywords?
If so, monetizing through adsense may be an option.

Seriously though, you should be getting you keyword research done and not worrying about monetisation. Are you fairly confident that there is a decent amount of people looking for the information that you are planning on writing about.

Echoing the other posts above, you'll learn a lot more by actually trying something out to see what happens.
 
if you're looking for informational products to sell you could check out clickbank, they have thousands of ebooks and other stuff that you can sell getting commissions.

Or you can create your own product and sell it (keeping 100% of the money) if you think you can come up with something decent
 
One good way to start is pick a topic that your passionate about. Like boats? Then start a blog about boats. Get your site approved for Adsense and set it up on your site. Look around on Amazon to see if they have anything related to your niche. Ifso get an account and run their ads.

There is many, many ways you can bring in revenues from your site. Trial and error is the only way you will find out what works.

Remember always that unique content is King.
 
I have plenty of ideas on what I want to write about (supplying content), it's just I'm not really sure how I go about getting the money aspect lined up.

The easiest would be to do keyword research. When you get doable keywords, i.e not much competition but sufficiently searched, slap a wp blog, do 5 to 10 articles around that keyword (you said youre good at writing so youre already has a head start)

Then put some adsense, it wont make much but at least you see dough start rolling and hopefully will motivate you.
 
Traffic, traffic and more traffic

Greenhorn,

Remember, its all about the traffic. With enough exposure, surfers will click, and they will also buy - either way, you get paid. SOOOO....how do you get traffic? That part is the million dollar question. There are a couple of ways:

- pay for it (adWords)
- grow organically with TONS of unique, regularly posted content. You don't even need to know about the topic...you just need access to someone who does. Content is king, as always. The more unique content, the more Google loves you. The more Google loves you, the more people find you (assuming they are searching for your topic).
- get solid thousands of solid backlinks. You can do this over time manually, or you can use tools, or services. However, there are subtleties you need to know or you can get royally fucked.

It can be, and is, overwhelming. :confused:
 
Well my biggest issue, I think, at this point is actually monetizing or attempting to monetize the thing. I don't exactly have anything resembling a clue when it comes to what I'm actually going to get people to buy. It would be more of an information thing as opposed to an actual physical product most likely, which I would guess means I would have to come up with all the content then, right?

I have plenty of ideas on what I want to write about (supplying content), it's just I'm not really sure how I go about getting the money aspect lined up.

In other words, let's say (totally not what I'm going to do as a niche) but lets say I want to offer info on how to "build a better mousetrap". I make a landing page send out some emails with info on ways to do so......Then, where the hell does the money get generated?

If it's an eBook then shouldn't I have it written first? Or could I was thinking about doing something like a membership thing instead in order to receive more articles. Is that kind of along the lines I should be going here?

BTW I appreciate the answers so far.

Newbie here, as well. Sounds like you're being overloaded with information on how to get started. There are so many options one can take in this game. This is what I've gathered so far:

One of the methods that you're referring to, which is selling information, is either by writing your own eBook or by promoting someone else's eBook and getting commission for it. Everyone does this through Clickbank, which handles all of the billing and transactions.

Memberships can be done through sophisticated forum software like vBulletin, which has a number of mods and plugins that can handle subscription based memberships for access to exclusive content.
 
I agree with the fellas above. Analysis paralysis will not get you very far. Since you've already got an idea of what you'd like to jump into, take the initial steps and get started.

1) pick your niche
2) do your keyword research
3) pick your traffic source
4) build your lander/website
5) set up your tracking
6) add your campaign to your traffic source
7) optimize (kill keywords that aren't converting)
8) scale your campaign
9) start from step 1 again on a new campaign

The more you can go through those steps, the faster you will learn and earn. Of course, your own steps may be slightly different, but the point is to have a system in place and just do it.

Personally, I prefer paid traffic as well because I don't have to wait 3-12 months after I build my sites for the results.

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The only thing missing is your product. I took a different approach, and did things ass-backwards. I didn't do steps 1 and 3 yet, I jumped in on steps 2-4-5, and bought a massive arsenal of keyword rich domains, Master Resale Rights & PLR products, and Kick Ass MiniSites w/ Products, and started building "Money Pages".

Having roughly 75 domains, 27 active sites, a trickle of traffic and about $2,000 invested... I am either completely insane or a fuckin' genius! I say this because, everything I need is in my possession, my control, and will produce 100% profits!

Now, l can't turn back!

Naturally, affiliate marketing is a solid starting point, but unless it's a hop-link set-up or solid tracking methods, I don't like it... I don't trust or like relying on cookies! To each their own. It's not easy, but I am building my own affiliate programs, and never once sold an affiliates product...go figure.

IMO when you find the right resources to "buy" and "own" your own products, preferably digital products - they can be distributed with auto-responders through automated email delivery, and a Pay-Pal account, and this put's the business and the money on autopilot, and you own it!

Plus, this free's up your time to take that knowledge and build your traffic, do your SEO, advertise, place comment, sigs, and build your backlinks, etc...

Then, when you start seeing that your business is paying for itself, and the profits roll in...you become the authority, and proceed to paid advertising, outsourcing the BS, and build membership sites or even training programs that not only sell your products, but create recurring monthly income streams.

Again, to each their own, but this is if you are looking to build long term income, quit your job, and go "balls out!"

Honestly, no matter how you slice it...it's a lot of fucking work!

I diddled around for over a year, and just this past February got my 1st hosting account. As you can see above, and stated repeatedly by others; reading only goes so far...

Since I took action, I am amazed at what I've built, despite the fact; I haven't mastered it yet, hell, I haven't even started advertising, building traffic or begun phase II yet!

Lay out your plans, and follow them. If they fail, regroup, fix what's not working, and do it over...each time you gain that bit of knowledge it puts you miles ahead of the majority.

I read; something like 90% of internet marketers quit because they fail to realize the value in their initial failures, or allow the learning curve to kick their ass. Personally, I'd much rather pound out the mental anguish for a year or two, then work for some un-appreciative prick the rest of my life that thinks $10 per hour entitles he/she to steal my dreams and freedoms! :action-smiley-052:

I am not the authority, as I have just finished laying the foundation (nearly 4 months of busting ass) and now, I am finally starting to "see" how it all ties together.

Not everyone likes the "Banquet Style" method I am building, as some prefer to focus on 1 site, 1 niche, 1 solid product...

You can start with a "Hot Dog Cart" and sell 2 products, or you can spend more time prepping, and "Go Golden Coral on their ass" and have a product to flavor anyone's hunger! I prefer the latter, but I will either win big? or fall hard?

Life's not a gamble, it's a calculated risk. One of which I believe probability is; if you set your mind to it, it will be done. But like work...it takes discipline, obedience, and well a huge set of balls!

I will not quit...because that initial $2000+ investment of products and domains is nothing compared to the potential they hold, it's up to me to turn each of them into 1000% profit machines!

Which I believe is very doable online!

But what do I know; I am a 8th grade drop-out who had a 6 figure business for nearly 20 years, until our beloved housing market took a big shit!

And yet...I remain grateful, cause it opened a new door and the challenge to pursue what lies ahead!
 
Evaluate yourself first. What are your strength's OP? Write them down. Then apply them to the methods you read on the forum. And most important at this stage..choose ONE thing and go all out!
 
i read for months, asked ppl for help on where to start, couldnt get my head around everything.. in all this time i made a whole $0.

then i decided fuck it.. and started spending as much as i could afford on ppc until i started to see some profits.. you'll learn real quick when its your hard earned cash going down the drain. my first 3 months of reading landed me a whole lot of lost time and $0 profit. My next 3 months of trying shit for myself landed me a whole lot more lost time, as well as about $9k profit.


gtfo wickedfire, stop reading unless your googling a specific question. and gtf to work