Trend for demand for good programmers on WF

J

John__N

New member
Apr 1, 2009
434
3
0
I've resumed learning programming. I had a question regarding selling it as a service.

Firstly,
I wouldnt sell it as a full fledged service unless I have mastered atleast one language with some successful projects under my belt to show the client the quality of work I can do with excellent communication and work ethics. At the same time avoiding the frustration the buyer goes through usually while outsourcing in terms of time and mental energy wasted to just make the programmer understand things which they are not able to comprehend due to language/intellectual barriers. Also my focus would be save the buyer's time from half coded stuff before the programmer disappears or doesn't communicate professionally or write unsecured or crappy code(efficient, optimized and well designed would be the focus).

Also if I focus on selling it as a service to one niche like IM'ers I feel I would be able to understand well the requirements for every new project much much better than another programmer from another domain.

What I would like to know is, how is the demand trend to hire good quality programmers around here. Is it increasing, linear or dwindling?

I know good programmers have always been sought after here but after the big g's updates in the last 3 years, a lot of things cannot be automated that could be automated earlier. Also some people want to learn programming instead of hiring a programmer.

Thats why this question about the demand trend.
 


how would anyone see demand for good programmers as anything but rising?

::emp::
 
John__N said:
I've resumed learning programming. I had a question regarding selling it as a service.

Firstly,
I wouldnt sell it as a full fledged service unless I have mastered atleast one language with some successful projects under my belt to show the client the quality of work I can do with excellent communication and work ethics. At the same time avoiding the frustration the buyer goes through usually while outsourcing in terms of time and mental energy wasted to just make the programmer understand things which they are not able to comprehend due to language/intellectual barriers. Also my focus would be save the buyer's time from half coded stuff before the programmer disappears or doesn't communicate professionally or write unsecured or crappy code(efficient, optimized and well designed would be the focus).

Also if I focus on selling it as a service to one niche like IM'ers I feel I would be able to understand well the requirements for every new project much much better than another programmer from another domain.

What I would like to know is, how is the demand trend to hire good quality programmers around here. Is it increasing, linear or dwindling?

I know good programmers have always been sought after here but after the big g's updates in the last 3 years, a lot of things cannot be automated that could be automated earlier. Also some people want to learn programming instead of hiring a programmer.

Thats why this question about the demand trend.
Click to expand...

A good programmer would be able to automate these things, but such a programmer is hard to find ;)
 
i can understand with manipluated data(not the regular post kinda) as content unless ur digging in some deep treasure not indexed in g.

automated backlinking like tiered stuff and low value mass links yes but not quality links. So long term we dont know.
 
John__N said:
i can understand with manipluated data(not the regular post kinda) as content unless ur digging in some deep treasure not indexed in g.

automated backlinking like tiered stuff and low value mass links yes but not quality links. So long term we dont know.
Click to expand...


You can always find people needing that kind of work done, but the point is to not limit yourself to it. Notice a lot of the programmers around here started out doing that work, but now they are running their own projects and selling the usage of their software as a service.
 
thats right. There are competent people to write well for the audience and good linkbuilders to get quality links.

My question is what will the automation do then?
Just aggregate everything and streamline posting and basic link building.

OR

the automation should be used to get creative and automate the marketing part to promote the website in different platforms eg. niche forums, social media site pages about ur topic, youtube, etc.?

What would be the true use of automation in the project?
 
You can automate all that. It doesn't require a human to log in and make posts.

You could build a software to write the content. There are only 1 or 2 people on WF who have been able to do that to the point where it is passable to a human. If you do that, your services are much more valuable than the average coder.

You could build a software to do analytics; scrape SERPS, track response, ...
 
jryan21 said:
You could build a software to write the content. There are only 1 or 2 people on WF who have been able to do that to the point where it is passable to a human. If you do that, your services are much more valuable than the average coder.
Click to expand...

jryan, the prob is human passable content is different than something that a visitor would like to read.
Maybe it would be good for tier 1.

or do you meant it would be good for the money site?
 
John__N said:
I've resumed learning programming. I had a question regarding selling it as a service.

Firstly,
I wouldnt sell it as a full fledged service unless I have mastered atleast one language with some successful projects under my belt to show the client the quality of work I can do with excellent communication and work ethics. At the same time avoiding the frustration the buyer goes through usually while outsourcing in terms of time and mental energy wasted to just make the programmer understand things which they are not able to comprehend due to language/intellectual barriers. Also my focus would be save the buyer's time from half coded stuff before the programmer disappears or doesn't communicate professionally or write unsecured or crappy code(efficient, optimized and well designed would be the focus).

Also if I focus on selling it as a service to one niche like IM'ers I feel I would be able to understand well the requirements for every new project much much better than another programmer from another domain.

What I would like to know is, how is the demand trend to hire good quality programmers around here. Is it increasing, linear or dwindling?

I know good programmers have always been sought after here but after the big g's updates in the last 3 years, a lot of things cannot be automated that could be automated earlier. Also some people want to learn programming instead of hiring a programmer.

Thats why this question about the demand trend.
Click to expand...

A good programmer always get things done on time, understood all the requirements and apply it to the project. Doesn't matter if it's building automated systems, as long as a programmer satisfies the client needs, or much better, more than the client's expectations.
That's the basic.


maybe yes, building automatons is what clients are looking for today. but how how will you get to the top? there's so many good programmers out there...

In my opinion, by applying the 'basic'.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Bottom