Using credit to get started on PPC

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roman8389

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So I'm done with the "reading how to make money" phase and am moving in to the "actually doing something to make money" phase. However, the problem is that I'm lacking the start-up funds. I've run a few PPC campaigns before that weren't much of a success, but now I'm reasonably sure that I could put together a profitable campaign.

I'm getting my tax refund in about a week, and I'm going to use part of it to pay off my credit card. I could then use my card and put down $100 to get started on one traffic source (not Adwords/Yahoo/MSN), or $200 for PPV (MT) -- I almost broke even on some PPV campaigns several months ago, and I had no idea what I was doing then. Now that I know what to promote and how to promote it, I'm sure I could get a good campaign going. And even if it's a total flop, I could live with the monthly payments afterwards.

tl;dr - Is it a good idea to use credit for PPC if you're pretty sure your campaigns would be profitable?
 


I use credit for all my campaigns. Just make sure you've got the money to pay that shit off at the end of the month. I wouldn't bank on being "pretty sure" about any campaign being profitable. Be prepared to lose whatever money you put forth.
 
That's what I'm saying: I wouldn't have the money to actually pay it off, unless the campaigns became profitable. However, I would be able to pay the monthly payments afterward if the campaigns didn't bring in anything.
 
NOOOOOO!! I would't do it! esp if you can't pay it off if it fails... Why not start off writing content or something on here to get a bit of cash flow? Do you have any skills you could put to work?
 
IMO, buy Linkfarm Evolution, Ubot (or this scrapebox i've been hearing about), use them for your own promotion and sell some services as well.

You should be able to get your money back.

Also domaining, seems to be a much safer investment for small money over the long haul.
 
greyhat said:
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Lordbrar has a domaining guide, and probably some updates out, look for it.

Look up these programs and the examples of what they do, think about what they can do for you for pretty much no effort; cant you think of a $5.00 or $10.00 one-off service that people would pay you for if you had them?

If you do buy LFE, use guerilla's link in the hopes that he'll start blogging again and drop us all some crumbs.

Link Farm Evolution — Link Building Tool For Endless Backlinks
 
@greyhat: I do write articles, but I've put that service on hold due to personal issues that have come up.

@abrokenshingle: I've heard of Ubot and LFE but I have very little SEO experience/knowledge and probably wouldn't know how to use them. Besides, I need some cash rather quickly, and I don't think I'd have enough time to wait for organic results.
 
roman8389 said:
@greyhat: I do write articles, but I've put that service on hold due to personal issues that have come up.

@abrokenshingle: I've heard of Ubot and LFE but I have very little SEO experience/knowledge and probably wouldn't know how to use them. Besides, I need some cash rather quickly, and I don't think I'd have enough time to wait for organic results.
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The point of these tools is that they are simple enough for anyone to use them and can be scaled out as you gain experience.

There are people here, who have barely a grasp of the English language, pulling down your $300.00 every day and more, because they have made it their business to acquire tools that can be leased back to the community for a nominal effort, while still benefiting the original purchaser's marketing efforts.

IMO, you should concentrate on building a foundation that will produce results over the long haul, not depending on all of a number of critical factors (any one of which is enough to sink you) to go your way.

Your original request is pretty much the same as someone who wants to become a professional blackjack player, or stock trader, and has $300.00 (on credit cards, no less) to start with.

If this was a game that you could walk in off the street with $300.00 and turn it in to $400.00 in four weeks with even a 50% (*edit 10%! )probability, do you really think there would be so many assholes working at McDonald's?

Shit, if you can guarantee that outcome I'll give you the $300 right now.

You're assuming that the networks will pay out with any sort of punctuality, allowing you to pay your bills and resume your campaign.

I can tell you from experience that networks often make newer and smaller affiliates go through hoops before paying out.

In any event, a $300.00 investment is not usually a life changing one. You'd probably do better with it if you got yourself certified in php/mysql.
 
So you're saying to get Ubot and make stand-alone programs, then hawk the programs on WaFo or DP or something? Sounds like a good idea on paper, but I have literally NO knowledge of programming or coding -- I think the most advanced thing I can do is an "a href" tag. I eventually want to learn more code, but if I could use Ubot with my current knowledge, I might consider it. Maybe lord Brar will stop by this thread.

I know that SEO has a lower risk and provides better results over the long haul, and I do want to get into it in the future (this summer when I'll have nothing but time), but like I said, for now I need something quick.

Network payout isn't a problem. I'm with EWA who has weeklies for > $50 rev and bi-weeklies for < $50. I've been paid on time in the few months I've been with them.

I know it's a risky move, but this is a game of risks and I'm a risk-taker.
 
Again, I understand that it's a risk. And also, I'm not talking about $300. I'm talking about either $100 on a specific traffic source OR $200 for PPV (Media Traffic) -- not both.
 
Spend the $200 on the campaign on credit. What happens if you fall flat on your face? You lose $200 and need to pay $20 a month for a little way until you can get your ass back. Not a large risk at all, so go for it.

Just make sure to pay that fucker off ASAP so it is around when you need it again. Whore yourself out as much as possible with services and once you pay it off, you have a security net again if you want to take a risk.

Or you can reinvest your profits. If you spend $200 and make $300, fuck it, pay the CC $20 and reinvest the $280. Rinse and repeat. This way, you can get more traffic then you could if you paid off your bill and where left with $100. And again, $200 will not bankrupt you.
 
My thinking is that the only real asset you have is brains.

The business you want to get into is a marathon not a sprint.

So you need to be thinking about what moves you're going to make this year, not just this week.

If you're SOL with a credit card bill coming due at the end of the month how can you possibly be in the game long term?

When I play poker, I acknowledge that I will lose a hand far more often than I'll win one but by playing smart and chipping away I can come out ahead most days=months=years.

Of course, I don't always stick to the game plan but its something I can come back to if things go sour.

You say you know how to run campaigns, so go for it. If you've got some buddies you might ask them to throw in $100.00 each with you taking 50% of the profit; that could keep you in the game longer.

So if you're going to go for it, reduce your risks as much as you can and do your best.
 
If you don't have a spare 100 dollars you need to seriously reconsider doing anything that you know won't make you some money.

I've probably done 20 "starter" posts on black hat digest over the years but your fastest way of getting the seed money will probably be to do some manual work.

Easiest way (and it gets you experience running a website) is to make a few. Costs are cheap for a domain name and hosting.

(like those hostgator 1 cent trials).

Build a site up with content. Build links to it.

Sell it.

Might not be making 1000's a day but you can certainly build up some seed money so you don't bankrupt your ass.

If you can't manage to build, and sell a few sites to get the money you are just wasting your time anyway.
 
^^ i am kind of leaning towards this. If you can't make $100 online then maybe you need to go back to the drawing board.
 
^ Site flipping has crossed my mind before. But let's be honest: There's a chance that I would spend time and money building a site, and then nobody ends up buying it.

I'm feeling inclined to put down $200 for Media Traffic, since I spent about $300 on it before and was only $30-$40 short of breaking even, and I was targeting the wrong offers with the wrong URLs. Now that I'm pretty sure I know what I'm doing, I think I could make it work.
 
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