Was any of the "old guys" On The Arbitrage Conspiracy conf. call tonite?

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LOL if you want some good laughs check out some of the comments:

Blog Archive Must See Video By Brad Fallon! (warning: large page load)

The funniest part for me is all the comments (I lost count) where the person mentions something to the effect of being a newbie, earning very little, or nothing at all and then when you click on their website you're smacked with an optin page offering a free report on how they earn $50,000 per month :xmas-smiley-016: Pretty much tells you all you need to know about the "marketers" in the internet marketing niche.
 


tacoX said:
I don't know what you guys are talking about - but there still are people pulling in thousands of dollars with ppc arbi. I would never tell people how I did mine, or sell any methods in any ebook though - so it probably is a scam, buying eBooks is for noobs.

Most my YPNs expired in October, but I was pulling 25,000-35,000/day - lasted about 5-7 days per account. I ran though about 40 accounts before it died (since 06).
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It has nothing to do with arbitrage, it's a $10,000 "course" that tells newbies to bid on trademark terms/keywords and direct link to a CPA offer.
 
Kinda funny now if you think about it. This Aymen guy is not only teaching how to bid on Trademarks but admitted to banking off it hard. If someone were to oh I don't know, research his claims and find it to be true, hello lawsuit city!
 
Jon said:
Kinda funny now if you think about it. This Aymen guy is not only teaching how to bid on Trademarks but admitted to banking off it hard. If someone were to oh I don't know, research his claims and find it to be true, hello lawsuit city!
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Thnx Jon! This is the whole point of asking a question to a group of ppl....opens up your eyes to multiple sides of a story!
 
When I first saw this, I remember thinking, "They are selling how to market CPA offers with PPC traffic? That's original." What a joke.

How would you even get decent quality score bidding on a domain name and direct linking? You could point to a PR7 site, I guess and then tweak the keyword destination but that will only last until your campaign is manually reviewed.
 
@ Jon

Hopefully the good Aff Networks will tighten up their restrictions for sign ups and noobs won't be able to join.
 
Jon said:
Kinda funny now if you think about it. This Aymen guy is not only teaching how to bid on Trademarks but admitted to banking off it hard. If someone were to oh I don't know, research his claims and find it to be true, hello lawsuit city!
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I know who 1 of these guys is through a private forum. Supposedly these numbers are legit, because he signed up at a network under someone else and they are getting a lot of cash from the referral.

But one of the guys has only been doing this for about 1 1/2 years. I also heard they arent teaching anything different that you wouldnt be able to find on this forum.

They have a new affiliate network and i guess this is their way to promote it.
 
HAHAHAHAH this thread is fucking hilarious! But also very very sad... I can't believe there are clowns who would actually pay for this shit. Makes you realize how many complete retards there are out there. And another LOL to the testimonial videos on their site. I just watched the one with Eben Pagan, and all I can say it LMAO, at him saying how this course will help him make millions, and he does it with a completely serious face... He should be shot...

ALL programs like this a fucking joke, and kudos to Jon for bringing it to the forefront, because the seriousness in this thread was going on far too long. When the OP should have been flamed to death from the get go for even considering that this be a valid program... lol $10000.... sad....
 
What really gets me is Brad Fallon charged $10,000 in Las Vegas to introduce Aymen to these other Gurus. Now he sucked up the motivation to move on. Granted Mark Joyner was on the call also. That says it all right there. Mark are you brainwashed too? Yeh- I cut my day job to "RUN" home to check out the price and guess what? NO sales page- Technical difficulties. Try again Thursday. Well sorry, already wasted a half day of work to see the hype. Are they offering a cash back for the time I lost at work? Think not...
Is $1997 really worth more than this forum can provide? YEH!! I've been sucker punched before. Like to name several other hype jobs- NO!!!! no need to name these programs (or promote failure).
I am new to the IM world, but I have had my fair sling at other MLM projects too. That have got sucked up by the government (FTC) and closed. And even changed there name and changed back to the first name and so on and so on...
So please fellow IM's- GOING TO BE SUPER AFFILIATES- DEFEND AND CONQUER!!!
 
Jerry West who does some work with StomperNET just sent this out:

Dear Fazor,

I was going to keep quiet about this, but with all the emails going out about "The Arbitrage Conspiracy" ... and how their "cart" is opening today at 3pm, well, it is time that someone who was actually there talks honestly about the program.

I will be giving my FULL review in my FREE newsletter later this week, so make sure you are signed up. You can go to:

Web Marketing Now - SEO Testing & Conversion featuring Jerry West and the sign-up box is in the upper right hand corner.

Here is the brief review:

DON'T BUY THE COURSE!!!

Don't get sucked into the hype. It isn't real. I was there and I walked out after 40 minutes because the material was very basic. I even talked to many people (other solid CPA marketers) who stayed for the entire presentation and they said there wasn't anything new, it was all recycled material from past systems.

If you want to really know how the CPA (Cost Per Action) market works and the DARK side of it, I will be coming out with a free course by the end of the year. No strings attached. I feel that passionate about this. This is another "launch" that over 90% of the people who sign-up will fail because it does not meet the expectations the marketing message created.

CPA is a tough business and you can lose your shirt if you don't fully understand it.

Protect yourself. Bypass this offer and save yourself not only money, but a mountain of frustration.

Best Regards,

Jerry West
Web Marketing Now - SEO Testing & Conversion featuring Jerry West
Web Marketing Now
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I know someone that went to the event and I've seen his notes. Biggest waste of $10,000 I've ever seen. I've also heard that all of the 'gurus' that came didn't have to pay a penny - they were there just to create hype - and hype they created.

So to sum it up.. a pile of fucking shit!
 
ayzo said:
Don't waste your time or money on that stuff, pay per click marketing is a simple formula:

1. Find offers
2. Generate keywords
3. Create a landing page
4. Setup tracking
5. Split test your campaigns
6. Spend money
7. Drop the keywords that don't produce results
8. Increase your bid and volume on the keywords that do
9. Repeat with another offer.

Then they'll probably go into some short videos about social media marketing, in which case you just need to read through these threads:

http://www.wickedfire.com/affiliate-marketing/19369-facebook-social-ads.html
http://www.wickedfire.com/affiliate-marketing/40492-myspace-ads.html

And if your "lucky" you'll get a 2 hour bonus video about using the adware networks, which is really just more of the same (generate keywords/urls, split test campaigns, rense and repeat)

Here are the secret weapons of "super affiliates"

Media Traffic
Trafficvance :: Advanced Display & Text Link Traffic | Home
Zango Ad Services
AdOn Network - Advertisers

Save yourself the $1997 or whatever they're charging and just start reading, everything you need to know is already here on the forums.
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I'm sure you are right.
 
Ok, one final warning for anyone who is seriously thinking about buying this course:

First an email from Jerrry West, the stompernet guy:

Dear whatever,

I was going to keep quiet about this, but with all the emails going out about "The Arbitrage Conspiracy" ... and how their "cart" is opening today at 3pm, well, it is time that someone who was actually there talks honestly about the program.

I will be giving my FULL review in my FREE newsletter later this week, so make sure you are signed up. You can go to:

Web Marketing Now - SEO Testing & Conversion featuring Jerry West and the sign-up box is in the upper right hand corner.

Here is the brief review:

DON'T BUY THE COURSE!!!

Don't get sucked into the hype. It isn't real. I was there and I walked out after 40 minutes because the material was very basic. I even talked to many people (other solid CPA marketers) who stayed for the entire presentation and they said there wasn't anything new, it was all recycled material from past systems.

If you want to really know how the CPA (Cost Per Action) market works and the DARK side of it, I will be coming out with a free course by the end of the year. No strings attached. I feel that passionate about this. This is another "launch" that over 90% of the people who sign-up will fail because it does not meet the expectations the marketing message created.

CPA is a tough business and you can lose your shirt if you don't fully understand it.

Protect yourself. Bypass this offer and save yourself not only money, but a mountain of frustration.

Best Regards,

Jerry West
Web Marketing Now - SEO Testing & Conversion featuring Jerry West
Web Marketing Now
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If Mr. Stompernet says it's not worth it, than it's REALLY not worth it. Besides, you might as well wait for his "free" course.

Next, we have the Warriorforum truth squad:

Truth about Aymen? Arbitrage Conspiracy -- What is Going on!

I won't paste it all here since you can just click the link, but basically somebody looks into this Aymen guy and find out that his clickbank id, digitalpoint username, and various other usernames/handles of Aymen is:

wasabi8899

The poster also makes note about how some of Aymen's claims don't match the timeline of his posts on digitalpoint, such as gems like these:

How to push more traffic with YSM?
Adword Daily Budget. Trying to spend more than the budget I set.
Will Metatags increase my QS?
Do you keep inactive and poor KW in your adgroups?
Black hat, steady Revenu: 1000$ in 4 days (trying to sell an ebook)
Question About Inactive Keywords In Adwords Campaigns
Looking For A Content Generator Software. Help me

Anyone who buys this shit deserves to get raped. If you really want to learn PPC marketing and know nothing about then I would suggest PPC Coach. It's $50 per month and if it's not for you, then you're just out $50 instead of $9997 or whatever this course costs.
 
Course will be $2,000.

A friend of mine went to the event in Vegas, I've read all of the notes and come to the conclusion that it's seriously not worth it.
 
ayzo said:
Ok, one final warning for anyone who is seriously thinking about buying this course:

First an email from Jerrry West, the stompernet guy:

If Mr. Stompernet says it's not worth it, than it's REALLY not worth it. Besides, you might as well wait for his "free" course.

Next, we have the Warriorforum truth squad:

Truth about Aymen? Arbitrage Conspiracy -- What is Going on!

I won't paste it all here since you can just click the link, but basically somebody looks into this Aymen guy and find out that his clickbank id, digitalpoint username, and various other usernames/handles of Aymen is:

wasabi8899

The poster also makes note about how some of Aymen's claims don't match the timeline of his posts on digitalpoint, such as gems like these:

How to push more traffic with YSM?
Adword Daily Budget. Trying to spend more than the budget I set.
Will Metatags increase my QS?
Do you keep inactive and poor KW in your adgroups?
Black hat, steady Revenu: 1000$ in 4 days (trying to sell an ebook)
Question About Inactive Keywords In Adwords Campaigns
Looking For A Content Generator Software. Help me

Anyone who buys this shit deserves to get raped. If you really want to learn PPC marketing and know nothing about then I would suggest PPC Coach. It's $50 per month and if it's not for you, then you're just out $50 instead of $9997 or whatever this course costs.
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Amen. Couldn't have said it better myself. This has to be some of the most basic info that I've ever seen.

"Buy traffic, send it to a CPA offer." Wow, that's worth 2 grand, eh?
 
ayzo said:
Ok, one final warning for anyone who is seriously thinking about buying this course:

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Anyone who buys this shit deserves to get raped. If you really want to learn PPC marketing and know nothing about then I would suggest PPC Coach. It's $50 per month and if it's not for you, then you're just out $50 instead of $9997 or whatever this course costs.
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It's worth a trip to Warrior Forum just to read some of the responses to the revelation that the Arbitrage Conspiracy is a giant sack-o-shit. The whole thread is denial writ large.

It proves, that not only is a sucker born every minute, but apparently shortly after birth, each one is entitled to a senior membership at the Warrior Forum.
 
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