which is the best web browser

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Well i dte but for Opera is kick ass, it always make sure it loads it page as long the connection is ok and it also compress the page to load quick compared to IE7. I heard their is going to IE8 soon
 


allco said:
No one mentioned Safari - any Mac users in the WF crowd?
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Here.

Though I use FireFox3 on my macbook as its much more friendly to me as a developer than Safari. FireFox coupled with Firebug is a great tool for debugging websites especially if you do any kind of ajax work.

The Safari 4 Developer preview however (which won't come out til they release 10.6 Snow Leopard) is very fast at loading and executing javascript and related functionality. However while Safari on the windows platform makes it the fastest browser to date, the hyped sense of security of apple has made Safari initially one of the unsafe browsers for windows even compared to IE (they didn't think to take into account phishing and downloads, and was kind of late in the game to implement those for normal users)

Opera 9 was ok, but not exactly my cup of tea. I used them early on back when it was IE5 and Netscape Navigator, The tabbed enviroment was nice which obviously FF, SF, IE picked up on later.

I think most developers would agree with me that IE is a sore point on the web, but its what most people use.

Fortunately for developers however, after much 'community outrage' M$ decided to give into the developer community and make "Super Standard" the default engine in IE8 (originally they were going to default it to how IE7 behaves currently, but not much would be standardized making the release kind of moot). Basically meaning if you stick to developing W3C validated sites and standard CSS and such, in theory it should not break as often in IE8 as it did for IE7.

Course last time I tested IE8 beta 2 it made google maps look like it went thru a blender, and did the same on most ajax-style sites. So hopefully they get their ducks in a row. My guess however is that scripts detected the presence of IE and tried to treat IE8 as if it were IE7, since IE hacks are rather common now days just to 'fix' the presentation on IE. (you know there's something wrong if you keep having to use "IE Hacks" and not FF or OP hacks).
 
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kblessinggr said:
Here.

Though I use FireFox3 on my macbook as its much more friendly to me as a developer than Safari. FireFox coupled with Firebug is a great tool for debugging websites especially if you do any kind of ajax work.

The Safari 4 Developer preview however (which won't come out til they release 10.6 Snow Leopard) is very fast at loading and executing javascript and related functionality. However while Safari on the windows platform makes it the fastest browser to date, the hyped sense of security of apple has made Safari initially one of the unsafe browsers for windows even compared to IE (they didn't think to take into account phishing and downloads, and was kind of late in the game to implement those for normal users)

Opera 9 was ok, but not exactly my cup of tea. I used them early on back when it was IE5 and Netscape Navigator, The tabbed enviroment was nice which obviously FF, SF, IE picked up on later.

I think most developers would agree with me that IE is a sore point on the web, but its what most people use.

Fortunately for developers however, after much 'community outrage' M$ decided to give into the developer community and make "Super Standard" the default engine in IE8 (originally they were going to default it to how IE7 behaves currently, but not much would be standardized making the release kind of moot). Basically meaning if you stick to developing W3C validated sites and standard CSS and such, in theory it should not break as often in IE8 as it did for IE7.

Course last time I tested IE8 beta 2 it made google maps look like it went thru a blender, and did the same on most ajax-style sites. So hopefully they get their ducks in a row. My guess however is that scripts detected the presence of IE and tried to treat IE8 as if it were IE7, since IE hacks are rather common now days just to 'fix' the presentation on IE. (you know there's something wrong if you keep having to use "IE Hacks" and not FF or OP hacks).
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Interesting...

Thanks for the heads up on the security issues on Safari for windows.

Also, didn't know Opera was the originator of tabbed browsing - always thought that was a creation by FireFox.
 
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