Zac Johnson, "Super Affiliate", Needs to Jack Peoples Landing Pages?
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Why Zac Johnson Blogs
I almost pissed my pants when I saw this spider man video blog from a grown man...
I almost pissed my pants when I saw this spider man video blog from a grown man...
Eh, if it is the offer that I think it is, it doesn't surprise me at all. He blatantly goes against all the rules the advertiser had setup to somehow make this "unique" marketing approach work ..
Oh well, christian boy.
And Zac Johnson shouldn't even warrant his own topic, the only thing he ever got going for him was taking advantage of Yahoo's shitty targeting with his myspace template site. Oh and calling himself a super affiliate because he felt like it. And wearing stupid spider man masks.
Ok there are only two issues about both these pages that could cause some issues between people the first is not surrounded by a red circle instead its the 6 Logo's which are exactly the same, then the ad copy is very similar.
Other then that the top headline and points cannot be considered anything except they are in the same order, one liner points cannot be claimed as intellectual property rights when they are considered facts, now I'm not 100% sure if those are facts but they seem like they could be, you see facts are open to the world and anyone can use them.
As for the logo's well again those can't be claimed by anyone except for the companies that have the trademarks for them so they cannot be stolen.
The only thing you should be complaining about is the similar ad copy which has slight changes.
Don't get me wrong though I'm not taking sides with anyone I'm just pointing out a few facts.
Oh and here is another fact, people who call themselves "Super Affiliates" who create landing pages like that are (7 times out of 10) Full of shit.
You see real Super Affiliates actually spend the $50 or $100 bucks to make good landing pages......But then again I do see a lot of so called Super Affiliates using really shitty looking landing pages so what the fuck do I know.
Other then that the top headline and points cannot be considered anything except they are in the same order, one liner points cannot be claimed as intellectual property rights when they are considered facts, now I'm not 100% sure if those are facts but they seem like they could be, you see facts are open to the world and anyone can use them.
As for the logo's well again those can't be claimed by anyone except for the companies that have the trademarks for them so they cannot be stolen.
The only thing you should be complaining about is the similar ad copy which has slight changes.
Don't get me wrong though I'm not taking sides with anyone I'm just pointing out a few facts.
Oh and here is another fact, people who call themselves "Super Affiliates" who create landing pages like that are (7 times out of 10) Full of shit.
You see real Super Affiliates actually spend the $50 or $100 bucks to make good landing pages......But then again I do see a lot of so called Super Affiliates using really shitty looking landing pages so what the fuck do I know.
So to clarify, it is ok to take stuff direct from the advertisers page, witch is what nickeycakes friend did with the 6 new network image and the bullet points.
It is not ok to rewrite what an affiliate did?
Or is it ok to redo what an affiliate does if he is not a supper affiliate blogger? Were does it say that a super affiliate can't do this?
Copying what someone else does is easy sure, but the real value in this is the keyword list. Do any of you use keyword spy tools? is that not taking from someone else's work? what is the difference?
I am not saying Zac is right with what he did I am just thinking that nickeycakes is over reacting because in nickeys world anyone he does not like is a fraud. Or so it seems.
Aequitas - if you don't think the landing page is any good what is wrong with it? It follows the formula for a good landing page rather well.
It is not ok to rewrite what an affiliate did?
Or is it ok to redo what an affiliate does if he is not a supper affiliate blogger? Were does it say that a super affiliate can't do this?
Copying what someone else does is easy sure, but the real value in this is the keyword list. Do any of you use keyword spy tools? is that not taking from someone else's work? what is the difference?
I am not saying Zac is right with what he did I am just thinking that nickeycakes is over reacting because in nickeys world anyone he does not like is a fraud. Or so it seems.
Aequitas - if you don't think the landing page is any good what is wrong with it? It follows the formula for a good landing page rather well.
HarveyJ
He is - THE CACTUS!
Wait, don't WickedFire members already pack heat at conventions?
Oh, for those that are reading the article and go WTF, scroll to the comments.
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h**p://www.shoemoney.com/2008/03/21/how-long-until-someone-is-killed-at-an-affiliate-summit/The landing page that Nicky said was his friends was good, nice looking ect... he also said he paid for it, the one that Zac did is ugly as shit, you've got less then 10 sections before a user hits the back button to go to another site.
If they don't like what they see they will move on, so how do you know what they like, well if a landing page looks like its been hacked together by a 2 year old then it doesn't display very much trust, however if a page is done to look more professional (High quality images, nice layout, ect...) this conveys much more trust in the user.
I've also personally seen bounce rates improve 10 fold from sites I have which I did a shit job on just to get them out (Ugly designs) from ones I took a good amount of time on (Very professional designs).
Also very clean designs work very well with a lot of whitespace but careful not to be too basic sometimes, it doesn't work with every niche.
Also if you look at Nicky's friends page you'll notice it has nice rounded corners a dark offset and a white background which makes the first initial content bounce out at you so you draw attention to it.
Then look at the one Zac did as you can tell no rounded corners, Ugly ass green header font on a white background and the only thing that pops out at you is the touch of red that Nicky tossed in, hell if anything Nicky helped Zac's landing page improve.
Zac's page does not display trust and nothing pops out at you, I can say with at least an 60% certainty that if you were to split test both of those landing pages, Nicky's friends original design would convey a better bounce rate and invoke more trust in the user.
How do you measure trust? The same way you measure conversions and why did I only say 60% because I've seen things in the past which can make anyones Jaw drop from how stupidly it was set up but how effectively it works.
The final test lies in split testing which one is better, if you can't do that then I can't give you a certain estimation on which one will do better, I can only give my opinion of my personal experinces and what has worked better for me in the past.
ahhahaha which one of you crazy fucking WickedFire guys was claiming to be packing at the affiliate summit.
Edit: Just got through all the wickedfire comments and seriously what a bunch of fucking pussies, so a few people got drunk, fight, grab some women, who the fuck cares, move to my red neck town and you'll enjoy that every fucking weekend.
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