30k a year or 60k a year? Rant & Poll

What would you choose for the next 3 years of your life

  • Make 30k a year working for yourself

    Votes: 121 72.0%
  • Make 60k a year working for somebody else

    Votes: 47 28.0%

  • Total voters
    168

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Ok, so i recently started a corporate job, it's my first one, and my first job i've had in a while. I just graduated college last summer.

I'm already starting to loathe the job. I don't do any real work, and i basically just need to be there for 8-9 hours every day. What a waste.

After doing some thinking tonight, and after seeing a GE commercial saying "if you aren't have fun at your job, your doing the wrong thing".

Then i asked myself, what do i really want out of a job. My answer was always "I want to make a lot of money". Now here I am with a corporate job making money that people would give an arm and a leg to make these days, not liking it, and prospectively going to another corporate company for an interview in a month for a different job.

then it struck me! the reason i'm not really liking this job, or any job i have ever had for that matter, is because i'm not making my own money. I'm getting paid a specific salary, regardless of how good/bad i am at my job, and it will always be linear in terms of how much i make. Work 10 years make more money simple.

But what i realized is that i dont think i will ever be happy living that type of reality. Going to work everyday is bad enough, wasting an entire day in an office building is a tragedy, then realizing that the only way i can make more money at this job is to invest years of my life into a company that could lay me off tomorrow just does not seem to make sense.

So here's my question to all of you, would you rather make 30k a year, making all that money by yourself, learning everyday, and basically not being limited to making more or less money, its on you. Or would you rather work for someone else doing work for them making 60k a year?

I'm challenging myself on this question right now, and after i give it a few months i'll have a much better idea of where i stand. But damn, let me tell you it is no fun, and the money does not make up for the monotony and inefficiency of this job.

that is all
 


maybe if the figures were a little closer I'd pick for myself. But a $30,000 income difference is significant. Working for someone else isn't always a bad thing. Got any sales skills? Get a job with base + commission. You can do $100,000 / year easily with some skills, and you get to get out of the office a lot.
 
Here's what you do. Keep your current job, but cut your standard of living to the same point you would if you were only making 30k a year. Save at least 50% of your income.

After you've banked all that money for a while, put it into your online ventures so that you can match or exceed your previous income.
 
maybe if the figures were a little closer I'd pick for myself. But a $30,000 income difference is significant. Working for someone else isn't always a bad thing. Got any sales skills? Get a job with base + commission. You can do $100,000 / year easily with some skills, and you get to get out of the office a lot.

was considering something sales oriented, don't know what to sell tho

i worked at sears, and sucked at that, b/c i didnt even know what selling was, then i was a telemarketer and hated that shit

although now i think if i tried sales it would be diff

and @supermetroid

what if i ended up making my salary w/ my online ventures in 5-6 months?
 
Flashback.

30k without a doubt. That'd put some real hustle in me, and I wouldn't be at 30k for very long.

thats the thing .. i feel like life is being sucked outta me when i'm working here ... when i'm on my grind, i get shit done and feel great, then when it works .. i feel even better .. its more challenging and rewarding, but comes with its downfalls .. like having all your income suddenly stop
 
Keep the job but live like you are only making $30k. Then spend the other $30k on outsourcing until you build up a good empire.
 
I recently left my job that i absolutely hated. I worked there for almost 2 years and always talked about leaving but never had the balls. So one day I decided to let my balls drop and I left to start some local SEO. Its been about 2 weeks and i'm still adjusting. The hardest part is the social aspect...but you'll be amazed how much you can get done. Depending on your age, if you have wife/kids, and your bank account, I say go for it.
 
I recently left my job that i absolutely hated. I worked there for almost 2 years and always talked about leaving but never had the balls. So one day I decided to let my balls drop and I left to start some local SEO. Its been about 2 weeks and i'm still adjusting. The hardest part is the social aspect...but you'll be amazed how much you can get done. Depending on your age, if you have wife/kids, and your bank account, I say go for it.

thinking of the local SEO/Marketing thing ... figured I can start when i'm still working tho just to test before taking the leap
 
What's worse than making little money, is not using a fraction of your potential (working a corporate job where you just sit on your ass all day doing nothing)...
 
Thats what I did, but instead of working I studied like hell to get a good grip on everything local. I'd usually read a good 2-3 hours a day at work about Local SEO trends.

As far as money goes, It hasn't been as much of an invest me as I thought:

Get a good understanding of Google Places, Facebook Fan Pages, SEO, Local PPC and your golden.

Also, you can outsource as much of it as you want (except for maybe PPC).
 
Read this quote from Dr Ngo a couple of months back. Awesome.

Work 16+ hours a day. Make sure you're eating right and exercising everyday. This could be a good thing, the bridges are burnt and failure's not an option. Also lower your expenses as much as possible...no eating out, clip coupons, etc.

I can relate to what you're feeling. A few years ago I quit my job and all my campaigns died. I went from $10k a month profit to nothing. Went through about 10 more failed campaigns until I discovered the berries and changed my life. Whatever shit you're feeling, everyone that has "made it" has gone through it. I rather struggle on my own than be someone's bitch for the next 50 years!
 
I would opt for something you haven't considered...

Make 60k from your full time corporate job

Plus, make an additional 30k from doing affiliate marketing in your spare time

And don't feed yourself some BS like you won't have time for this. You always have the time, the question is whether you're willing to make sacrifices to come up with that extra time. Sometimes the sacrifices are worth it, sometimes not.

However, it's your choice and the sun will still rise tomorrow regardless of what you choose.
 
You presumption of a linear track is mistaken. If you are a "Star" in the corporate world they will promote you so fast you will not know what happened. Take the stability and the earnings and build it into residual income (rental properties etc Cash flow=rent/2-expenses).

Of course bust your ass at night and the weekends building your own sites etc - but diversify when you earn and never buy depreciating assets (Cars, Flat Screens) invest in SEO, stocks, whatever to build a solid base.

Use the knowledge you learned skyrocketing in the corporate world and hanging with the top brass (because you are a star they will seek you out - they may be stuck but they oftentimes have a lot of advice) - then leverage everything above into starting your own companies. You will need the corporate experience to understand bureaucracies and how to effectively manage people, projects, etc.

You are here on WF for a year and a few months and are not confident that you can make it in SEO etc - so do the above, learn, build a base - then go out on your own. If you were confident after a year and 2 months my advice to you would be different - for now let the Corporate world to grow, train, and mature you.

That extra $2,500/month can buy you a lot of SEO - then sell the productive sites and invest the proceeds.

Good luck.
 
Also keep in mind that shit happens...

Your 30k/year plan working for yourself could end up going to shit. Then what will you do?

You could also get fired from your corporate job though (at least in this case you'd get some severance).

I used to think I never wanted to work for anybody other than myself. But then I realized that I could actually gain valuable experience by having a boss and seeing how a "real" business is run.
 
You presumption of a linear track is mistaken. If you are a "Star" in the corporate world they will promote you so fast you will not know what happened. Take the stability and the earnings and build it into residual income (rental properties etc Cash flow=rent/2-expenses).

Of course bust your ass at night and the weekends building your own sites etc - but diversify when you earn and never buy depreciating assets (Cars, Flat Screens) invest in SEO, stocks, whatever to build a solid base.

Use the knowledge you learned skyrocketing in the corporate world and hanging with the top brass (because you are a star they will seek you out - they may be stuck but they oftentimes have a lot of advice) - then leverage everything above into starting your own companies. You will need the corporate experience to understand bureaucracies and how to effectively manage people, projects, etc.

You are here on WF for a year and a few months and are not confident that you can make it in SEO etc - so do the above, learn, build a base - then go out on your own. If you were confident after a year and 2 months my advice to you would be different - for now let the Corporate world to grow, train, and mature you.

That extra $2,500/month can buy you a lot of SEO - then sell the productive sites and invest the proceeds.

Good luck.

^ this
 
if my coworkers are cool, i'd choose the 60k job.

if my coworkers are assholes, i'd choose the 30k job.

from all my experiences, i'd rather work a shit job with cool coworkers than a cool job with shit coworkers.