Black teens assault pregnant White teen after stealing her iPod

johnmatrix said:
Knocking a girls head off her shoulders in a bus full of people is likely to incite random wannabe-hero guys to knock your fucking head off too... no matter who was in the wrong. Not to mention that it's on camera, real wise bro.
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Don't think there were any 'wannabe-hero guys' on that bus, or they might have tried to help out the pregnant girl taking a beating from a pack of animals.

And JakeStratham, you can't live your life in fear of what might happen if you protect yourself and those you love, that's a cowards way out.

'These girls did not pose a real threat - not to the guy, not to the female victim, and not to her unborn kid'

Bullshit. I could take some little fucker like that wailing on me all day if I had to, but sure as fuck a pregnant teenager can't. You can have a miscarage from a lot less than being attacked by some random twats :rolleyes:
 


johnmatrix said:
Knocking a girls head off her shoulders in a bus full of people is likely to incite random wannabe-hero guys to knock your fucking head off too... no matter who was in the wrong. Not to mention that it's on camera, real wise bro.
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No, it actually works. Believe it or not, some people only respond to violence. It's real simple, you give one warning and say don't fuck with my family and stand your ground. If you sit there and keep beating on a bitch, someone probably would jump in, so you make it real decisive. As soon as you blow her mouth out - you would have a few moments of shocked silence. Then you simply say - "Don't fuck with me or my family". Then you walk to the front of the bus, and get off.

As far as it being on camera, they were the aggressors. Might not play in court, but allowing yourself to be a victim is not only a punk move, it's fucking dangerous. I can't even tell you how many people I knew/saw/heard about growing up (and while in prison) that tried to take his cool approach while being victimized and aren't here to tell the story. If you act like a punk, you'll get treated like one.
 
Unarmed Gunman said:
I can't even tell you how many people I knew/saw/heard about growing up (and while in prison) that tried to take his cool approach while being victimized and aren't here to tell the story. If you act like a punk, you'll get treated like one.
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Harsh but true!

In school if you are being bullied, its for a reason. Because you never fight back. Give one of those fuckers a serious pasting to the face and 99% of the time they will never touch you again. Its much better to recieve a couple of punches in a one time incident than to be victimsed every day for not looking out for yourself.

This is obviusly all easier said than done.
 
The young dude deserves a medal for staying that calm and putting himself in the middle without physically manhandling those teenage girls. Very maturely handled, though most of us would have completely understood him laying out any one of those offending chicks.

Forget black or white, this type of hazing happens every day in every corner of the world, but too often no one does anything to protect those who can't protect themselves.

The kids doing the hazing are unfortunate and unhappy, and most likely have some real hard life ahead of them, you know they're not going home to a happy loving nest..

props again to that young kid, he saved all their asses from being beat, jailed and processed.
 
BluuueJammm said:
And JakeStratham, you can't live your life in fear of what might happen if you protect yourself and those you love...
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I agree. But I have a keen sense of real danger and benign attacks (age and experience do that to you). The episode in the video is closer to the latter.

Trust me, BluuueJammm, if the life of anyone in my immediate family was truly threatened by an individual, I'll end the threat. I prefer to do it peacefully, but am willing to use deadly force, if necessary. I made that decision a long time ago. No different than killing a dog that is attacking my child.

The key point is determining how much force is necessary to end a threat. An ill-placed kick delivered by an untrained 16-year-old girl is nothing. Doesn't warrant a knife to the brain or a closed windpipe. It doesn't warrant a broken nose or caved eye.

BluuueJammm said:
...that's a cowards way out.
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This sort of thinking is over my head. Seems to address emotion and psychology rather than ending a threat (maybe I'm misunderstanding your point).

The guy in the video handled the situation beautifully. He showed grace under pressure. Perhaps he understands how situations like this can escalate down the road - even weeks later.

BluuueJammm said:
'These girls did not pose a real threat - not to the guy, not to the female victim, and not to her unborn kid'

Bullshit. I could take some little fucker like that wailing on me all day if I had to, but sure as fuck a pregnant teenager can't. You can have a miscarage from a lot less than being attacked by some random twats :rolleyes:
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I am familiar with miscarriages, and the many factors that can cause them. Certainly, a kick in the stomach is a danger. So, too, is stress and myriad other triggers (to your point). It is a poor acid test to determine whether a violent defense is warranted.

Keep in mind the female victim was not kicked in the stomach. Her boyfriend protected her body by placing his own between her and the others. The danger to her unborn child was minimal.

Here's the thing: some people are driven to "defend themselves" out of a desire for retribution. Others simply want to end a threat as quickly as possible. For them, emotion has nothing to do with it, and therefore retribution is off the table.

I'm in the latter camp. If I am ever forced to kill someone, the reason will be more substantial than, "I'll show that mofo who's boss!"
 
JakeStratham said:
To those of you saying, "I'd have knocked that bitch's head off!"

Grow the fuck up before you run into someone who will murder you.

I can tell some of you have never been exposed to people who are actually willing to kill, driven by psychopathy or emotion. I have. A good friend of mine went in for double homicide. He clipped two guys out of pure emotion. I've met other murderers (won't go into my history, so don't ask).

I'm all for defending yourself against real aggression, but tread carefully. These girls did not pose a real threat - not to the guy, not to the female victim, and not to her unborn kid. The situation did not warrant much more than the guy did.

You don't know who you're messing with out there. Let's say you broke the girl's nose with one shot (assuming you know what you're doing). Suppose that calmed things down on the bus. Good for you. Success, right? What if, during the following week, the girl points you out to her people (family, friends, acquaintances), who want your blood. And they're willing to kill you, your pregnant girlfriend, or your loved ones. Short-term success and long-term failure.

Think it doesn't happen like this? You're sheltered.

I can't tell if some of you are just talking tough on an anonymous forum, or if you're really willing to put your head on the chopping block. But I can tell a few of you have never encountered a killer. Better grow up.
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Are you kidding me? Real aggression? What do you call real aggression? Because I counted at least five times where that bitch tried to kick that kid in the head. I didn't grow up sheltered, and have been through a lot and seen a lot, but defending oneself is not something to be debated in my books. I shudder to think what would have happened to that girl if her boyfriend wasn't there. I agree with excercising judgment, but when trouble comes in your backyard you bite it's fuckin head off! I'd rather die defending myself, than live on my knees.

He's a better man than me...to stand there and be subjected to that? Attacked and being robbed? As a man no need to go overboard with the violence on those chicks, but at that point in time they weren't girls anymore, they were a pack of animals, and I would've smack the shit outta each one of them! As one earlier poster stated, that has nothing to do with race, it's a culture thing, and unfortunately many black youth are being raised on gangsta hip hop, gangsta culture, and a pack mentality.
 
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All those is favour of exterminating the lowest 20% of our population say 'aye'.
 
Big Mike75 said:
Are you kidding me? Real aggression? What do you call real aggression? Because I counted at least five times where that bitch tried to kick that kid in the head.
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My use of the word "real" was poor and inaccurate. I should have chosen my words more carefully. I agree with you; the girl's kicks were an obvious act of aggression. My intent was to point out that her kicks were unlikely to cause much damage (possible, but unlikely). I'm not saying this to argue that she did not deserve a response. I'm saying this to argue that given the guy's options at that moment, responding with violence would have been a poor decision.

Put yourself in the guy's shoes.

Consider: you're on a crowded bus. You have no exit points. None. Each of your attackers is padded, and possibly concealing. That leaves very few options. What's more, there are males nearby, and you have no idea if they are associated with your attackers.

Things are already dangerous for you and your girlfriend. You have chosen to defend her. That puts you in a difficult position. If you lunge at an attacker, you expose your flanks. If you lunge, even once, you expose your girlfriend to harm. You'll lose control of the situation immediately.

Big Mike75 said:
I didn't grow up sheltered, and have been through a lot and seen a lot, but defending oneself is not something to be debated in my books. I shudder to think what would have happened to that girl if her boyfriend wasn't there. I agree with excercising judgment, but when trouble comes in your backyard you bite it's fuckin head off! I'd rather die defending myself, than live on my knees.
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The last statement is an oversimplification. There are more than two choices.

I'm all for defending yourself against aggression, Big Mike75. But in this situation, there were few options for the guy. Deadly force was not warranted. Anything less could have led to far worse results. He did everything right.

Clearly, a few folks disagree with me. I am fine with that, and am leaving this debate to work on my business. :)
 
All you need is one shot. Make it overwhelming, hard, fast, and totally brutal - and their perspective changes in an instant. Don't work up to your anger - just flip the switch immediately and people get the message, "This is not someone to fuck with".
 
BluAffiliate said:
BTW I like this one better:

YouTube - Pregnant Chicks Fight In Parking Lot, East Oakland

"At least I'm pregnant and I'm still beautiful!"
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hilarious. the chick starting shit in big ol white, granny panties and see through pink tights....NOT leggings...TIGHTS. at least she took the time to wear matching pink flip flops with her tights...must have been uncomfortable in the toe section.

also, why would you ever fight while pregnant?

i don't usually condone men hitting women but she really desrved it.
 
seous said:
I've come down to the following conclusions/predictions.

If I was the guy, I would've beat the shit out of those girls. No questions asked. Stealing + Bitching + Not making me a fucking sandwich = Ya dun' goofed.

If I was the white girl, I would've beat the shit out of those girls.

If I was the bus driver, I would've called the cops first and tell them that a few black teens got their brains beat the fuck out.

If I were the black teens, I would've killed myself.

It's pathetic how they'd do this. Nothing more I'd like to do right now than to get their addresses and beat the shit out of them. I may be branded as a "woman-beater", but I couldn't give 2 shits about it. People like this need to get life in prison or a beating by me (Which is worse).
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This is sad, it really is. Those people have been raised with zero self respect, or respect/appreciation for anything for that matter.

I've never hit a female before, but this would be one of those times that rule gets broken... seems like one of those chicks needed to get dropped so they think twice about what they're actually doing.

Still can't believe no one else stood up... imagine if that were you trying to help an innocent bystander, and everyone was just sitting and looking at you. (wtf people)

edit: oh geeeeezus, I just realized that was his gf! Was def Amber Lamps time regardless.
 
Fucking black people....


lol.. but seriously though. As others have already said, the man handled it like fucking Yoda. I guarantee the only thing going through his head was the safety of his girl and his unborn child... He was getting punched and kicked into the face, but since it wasn't really injuring him.. he just stood his ground and did not retaliate because he did not want to ESCALATE the situation further.

I can't say that I would keep the same presence of mind in a situation like that.. though, I've never been in a situation like that so it's hard to tell.. either way, he did the right thing by not retaliating and not escalating the situation into a full out brawl and possibly putting his pregnant girlfriend in danger in the process.
 
People like that should be put in a cage. We need to create a new Australia where we dump all the garbage like this.

Film that shit and make it a Reality Show. If they try to build a boat and get off the island, the coast guard shoots those fuckers down.
 
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