How many people are proftting more than 5k online here?

[aeiouy]

I never understood why people talk about exactly how much they make. It is unnecessary, potentially dangerous, and very egotistical.

Not to mention the amount of money someone makes has nothing to do with their ability to provide insight and commentary or have good ideas. Everyone who makes a lot of money now at some point was not making a lot of money. Do their opinions all of a sudden become golden when they start making money? How about the dimwits that got lucky or fell into money? Does the fact they have money make them worth listening to?

I don't disagree that there are a lot of people on WF jacking around making zero money. I don't care that people are not making money, it is their own life. The thing that bothers me is I see people wasting their time when with just a little effort they could probably make more money then they ever imagined.

So, stop worrying about how much money someone makes, and start determining how you are going to make your money. Someone who makes no money might still have insight and ideas that will help you make money. Suck it all in and go get yours... Some day you may be making a lot more money then people you used to think were really banking.

 

[DruSam]

well said aeiouy, i'm learning to be much more concerned with what my digits look like than everyone elses.

 

[chatmasta]

Yep, there are even some making $5k per day. I think there's even a couple, not many making $10k+ per day.

You never will.

Yep. If you waste your precious time talking about how you don't think anyone is making real cash of the internet, then obviously you aren't even close. Stop asking everyone how much money they make and do it yourself.

 

[Mike]

If you waste your precious time talking about how you don't think anyone is making real cash of the internet, then obviously you aren't even close. Stop asking everyone how much money they make and do it yourself.

Was that aimed at me? If so, then you need to read the entire thread first.

/edit/ clarified by chatmasta. just misread his intention

 

[guysmy]

nice post aeiouy. that was the shizzle. :drinkup:

 

[Scheme]

Aeiouy has spoken. End the thread now.

 

[chatmasta]

Was that aimed at me? If so, then you need to read the entire thread first.

Nah - I clarified it though.

 

[aboteanu]

Doesn't really matter how much you make right now. It matter if you have what it takes to make enough at some point and if you can make plans and stick to them. Nobody makes a fortune in a day and nobody is smart and successful from first step. Contrary to some people beliefs you can't get rich fast no matter what business you're in. And you need to do a lot of trial and error and to make mistakes before you succeed in something. Like somebody said (don't remember who) the difference between a winner and a looser is that the winner doesn't give up and learns from his mistakes.

Yeah, look to the big earners perhaps for motivation and set a goal. If you make <$100 per month online, then step up your game and set a goal of $500 or $1000 per month and build from there.

I totally agree to this.

 

[DonAssaf]

Yep, there are even some making $5k per day. I think there's even a couple, not many making $10k+ per day.

You never will.

Thats what im making now, but it takes so much work , cuz its mostly from PPC ( to affiliates ) , so i have to keep working on my keywords...but 5 K is the net profit....I'm shooting for the $ 10 K a day net profit by June 2007. I'm also marketing my Middle East Dating website which will be my biggest cash cow from direct advertisers.

Nothing is impossible in the end, work hard and smart and you'll run out of dreams lol.

 

[partythenwork]

what about the user? i know it may sound a bit premature, but isnt doing something online about helping the user more than anything and not trying to make a quick buck or two?

if you focus in on just making the bucks then ultimately you are going to screw the users and not being able to enrich their lives. oddly enough i feel the new thing about web 2.0 is that we in some way helping users sate their loneliness.

users online seemingly want to interact with each other and i think if your system is solid and provides them something they need/want then you will always have a lot of users and thus give you a lot more revenue potential.

 

[kaveman]

what about the user? i know it may sound a bit premature, but isnt doing something online about helping the user more than anything and not trying to make a quick buck or two?

if you focus in on just making the bucks then ultimately you are going to screw the users and not being able to enrich their lives. oddly enough i feel the new thing about web 2.0 is that we in some way helping users sate their loneliness.

users online seemingly want to interact with each other and i think if your system is solid and provides them something they need/want then you will always have a lot of users and thus give you a lot more revenue potential.

oooooooor..... you could just spam

 

[partythenwork]

oooooooor..... you could just spam

hahaha that's so funny. i think people dont like spam. true it must be effective to a point, but it is a constant war to keep spamming. look at google do they have to spam people to use their products?

if we start spamming then we become no better than 'microsoft'. i dont think it should be users are 'first' per se, but i think the site or content should help the user experience.

think back to those old tv shows you used to watch, and remember the fond memories you had of them. then think back to all of the spam (junk mail) you have received over the years and how you have completely forgotten them all.

 

[arz]

what about the user? i know it may sound a bit premature, but isnt doing something online about helping the user more than anything and not trying to make a quick buck or two?

:1orglaugh: You won't fit in very well around here with that kind of attitude!

 

[kaveman]

hahaha that's so funny. i think people dont like spam. true it must be effective to a point, but it is a constant war to keep spamming. look at google do they have to spam people to use their products?

if we start spamming then we become no better than 'microsoft'. i dont think it should be users are 'first' per se, but i think the site or content should help the user experience.

think back to those old tv shows you used to watch, and remember the fond memories you had of them. then think back to all of the spam (junk mail) you have received over the years and how you have completely forgotten them all.

this is so silly i dont even know what to say to it

 

[partythenwork]

:1orglaugh: You won't fit in very well around here with that kind of attitude!

well we all gotta be different at times. :anon.sml:
that's what is cool about this forum. it is very different than all of the other non-sensible webmaster like forums.

 

[cyberworkspace]

hahaha that's so funny. i think people dont like spam. true it must be effective to a point, but it is a constant war to keep spamming. look at google do they have to spam people to use their products?

if we start spamming then we become no better than 'microsoft'. i dont think it should be users are 'first' per se, but i think the site or content should help the user experience.

think back to those old tv shows you used to watch, and remember the fond memories you had of them. then think back to all of the spam (junk mail) you have received over the years and how you have completely forgotten them all.

to me, there are no users. just consumers. open your eyes. everything, and i really mean everything, the web is about is ... commerce.

sure, there is the open source community, which develops nice applications and standards for free. but take a look behind the curtains and you will find, that most open source applications come from companies being funded by SUN, Microsoft, IBM, SAP etc. pp.

look at anything google does. is it done to help the world to become a better place ? no. it is done to get more than just the 4.8% of the approx. 350 bil. global advertising cake.

is that bad? no. because a lot of nice applications would not work, if they wouldn't be commercialized. simply, because there are too few working business models on the web, that can produce a sustainable income. copyright infringement is a constant issue. never before had industry espionage been so easy as in the web age. you want to take over the business of your competition? copy them, m2-effect.

and then, take a look at the "users" themselves. they just deserve to be treated like a herde of cows that waits to ge milked. ringtone, diet pill and acne cream buyers. but i love them. and they love the web, which supplies them so nicely with all those gadgets and pills and things they don't really need but still then buy so plenty.

so, it is all about better let me having all that money than them.
At least I give a certain percentage of my income to charity so all is good in the end and the community really benefits.

 

[DonAssaf]

well we all gotta be different at times. :anon.sml:
that's what is cool about this forum. it is very different than all of the other non-sensible webmaster like forums.

Exactly , thats why this is the only forum i post in. I ready many other forums, but this is the first and only forum i like to post in.

It's really fun to be in here, thank you Jon for this place, you have done a great job, and your vision is coming true.

Thanks again

 

[partythenwork]

to me, there are no users. just consumers. open your eyes. everything, and i really mean everything, the web is about is ... commerce.

sure, there is the open source community, which develops nice applications and standards for free. but take a look behind the curtains and you will find, that most open source applications come from companies being funded by SUN, Microsoft, IBM, SAP etc. pp.

i would argue that a community is a place where your voice can be heard. like this forum is a community. if it was just me posting to a bunch of bots there is very little chance that my thoughts will ever become heard hence there would be no community.

look at anything google does. is it done to help the world to become a better place ? no. it is done to get more than just the 4.8% of the approx. 350 bil. global advertising cake.

i think google did the advertising as an after thought. they focused in on making the best possible search engine. if you dont believe me use google yourself, and you will know that overall you probably trust it a bit more than yahoo or microsoft's. how do i know this? remember they werent the market leader.

back then altavista, netscape, aol, and everyone under the sun had their own search engines. just overall you started trusting google's results more. hence they created a product that you use and love using.... yes i would say love using it.

and then, take a look at the "users" themselves. they just deserve to be treated like a herde of cows that waits to ge milked. ringtone, diet pill and acne cream buyers. but i love them. and they love the web, which supplies them so nicely with all those gadgets and pills and things they don't really need but still then buy so plenty.

so, it is all about better let me having all that money than them.
At least I give a certain percentage of my income to charity so all is good in the end and the community really benefits.

well maybe you dont use the products but someone finds meaning in them. maybe someone believes that the next diet pill or the next ringtone will increase the benefits in their life by X factor. the key in this situation is that it helps them whether it is true or not is subjective.

i am just saying that we should focus in on how to improve the user experience and how to retain users and how to get them excited enough to tell their friends. isnt that what success online is all about?

if enough people talk about what you are doing then it should spread right? or is this a grand illusion?

 

[cyberworkspace]

i think google did the advertising as an after thought. they focused in on making the best possible search engine. if you dont believe me use google yourself, and you will know that overall you probably trust it a bit more than yahoo or microsoft's. how do i know this? remember they werent the market leader.

that is exactly the point that underlines my statement, why everything is about commerce. because the world does not care about getting the best searchengine and it would hence not pay for it. if there is no payment however, there is no google.

so, google did simply had no other choice than to give up in their idea of getting the best searchengine done but instead changed their plan to become the most profitable search engine.

today, they live by advertising products, not by providing search capabilities for free.

that is, what the whole quality score is about as well: no conversions = no money for google. so google is all about buy, buy buy.

i like it

 

[shaggz]

what about the user? i know it may sound a bit premature, but isnt doing something online about helping the user more than anything and not trying to make a quick buck or two?

if you focus in on just making the bucks then ultimately you are going to screw the users and not being able to enrich their lives. oddly enough i feel the new thing about web 2.0 is that we in some way helping users sate their loneliness.

users online seemingly want to interact with each other and i think if your system is solid and provides them something they need/want then you will always have a lot of users and thus give you a lot more revenue potential.

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