Norwegian Prison
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Awe how cute. Michael Moore is an idiot. He's trying to make the connection that the murder rate is so low because of the humane way the prisoners are treated when in reality the murder rate is low because of the type of people that live in Norway. Try that touchy-feely shit here in our crime infested melting pot of self-interested, entitled fuckwits and see how it works out.
This is also the only reason socialized systems work so well in Sweden and Norway. When you have a homogeneous, low immigrant society, people all think the same so systems like that work.
So...some guy cuts up two people with a chainsaw and not only isn't put in prison for life or fried like the sicko he is, but spends the last 4 years living out his sentence in that "prison?"
They also let him go to the woods and use a chainsaw again? That was fucked up.
They also let him go to the woods and use a chainsaw again? That was fucked up.
It's the same reason you didn't hear about looting and other crimes with the Japan earthquake/tsunami. Then you look at Katrina and Haiti....
Fucking WOW.
Utopia exists, it's just colder than we thought and called Norway.
-Of course since it's Moore he sensationalized the hell out of it to the point that you might not think that Norway has any harder prisons, but of course they do... This was a minimum security prison of course.
The real question about that society is:
WTF are they doing to make everyone WANT to get ahead, and be somebody, instead of just sitting around collecting welfare??
The problem stopping liberals from being right in America is simply that there are too many lazy assholes here that would take advantage of the system... Why isn't anyone there taking advantage of it? Were they all raised properly somehow?
+Rep to you, sir Bizou. Good to see you around again since we knew you were in Japan earlier.
Utopia exists, it's just colder than we thought and called Norway.
-Of course since it's Moore he sensationalized the hell out of it to the point that you might not think that Norway has any harder prisons, but of course they do... This was a minimum security prison of course.
The real question about that society is:
WTF are they doing to make everyone WANT to get ahead, and be somebody, instead of just sitting around collecting welfare??
The problem stopping liberals from being right in America is simply that there are too many lazy assholes here that would take advantage of the system... Why isn't anyone there taking advantage of it? Were they all raised properly somehow?
+Rep to you, sir Bizou. Good to see you around again since we knew you were in Japan earlier.
Cultural differences. The US has far too many cultures, immigrants (we are a 100% immigrant nation after all), etc for it to work here. Norway and Sweden are VERY culturally homogenous and also VERY anti-immigrant.
Of note, Sweden just elected people of an anti-immigrant, anti-muslim party to their parliament in the past national election. That should give you an idea.
What are you saying, being homogeneous is better?
Ghettos and are ethnically and culturally homogeneous too.
While Moore is... well, I think we all know not to take him seriously.
But... the US doesn't have to be what it is.
We COULD close borders. Then instill community service for most non-violent offenders. We could legalize pot.
Also, maybe get rid of some of the 20,000+ federal laws (plus state and county), so that less than 100% of the population commits crimes (as is the current situation within the US)
With the money saved from excessive imprisonment, we could improve the correctional element of the correctional facilities (which right now are only used as 'punishment' places)
Hell, in 50+ years if we did the RIGHT decisions, we could be like Norway in terms of crime, prisoner populations, and prisoner rehabilitation.
Of course, that won't happen.
Oh and to those harking about prisoners over there not getting punished, you are confused about how the justice system works. In the west, and most first world countries, prison is used to CORRECT people, not punish. The is why they are called correctional facilities. If you really want punishment, instill corporal punishment. Which, I tend to agree on for violent criminals. I'd personally prefer to lose a finger than lose a year of my life.
But don't mix the concepts. It is the hypocrisy of America that always fucks things up. We decide to make 'correctional' facilities with the idea of not pushing yet correcting, and then we punish and don't correct.
I doubt it, as much as Moore says stupid shit like "We need to take money back from the rich, it's a natural resource. It's everyone's, not theirs"
His accountant probably thinks he's a fucking retard, but stays quiet to make money. If you think that all of the money of wealthy people should be stolen from them and redistributed, you're a moron.
I think BCC423 is trying to say Michael Moore is pulling a fast one on the morons who buy his documentaries. In reality capitalism has been very good to Micheal Moore.
But I doubt it, he seems pretty convinced of his own bull shit.
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But I doubt it, he seems pretty convinced of his own bull shit.
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The real reason for this (as non-politically correct as it is to say) is because some cultures are more advanced than others. Some cultures have a better work ethic than others. Some cultures are less violent than others. Some cultures value education more than others. The classic liberal mistake is to believe that everyone is the same, when all of the evidence proves otherwise.