Another Banning Spree Here!
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I'm not arguing the ethics of that book. I don't even own it or know the author.
But whether it's the bible or written by the devil himself, linking to the download page is scummy.
For instance, your kid has a bike she rides to school. On her way to class, she drops a slip of paper with the combination to her bike lock. Should that combination be broadcast to 1000 other students just because she was careless or stupid enough to drop it?
Do you think the person who broadcasts it is cool?
Paul
But whether it's the bible or written by the devil himself, linking to the download page is scummy.
For instance, your kid has a bike she rides to school. On her way to class, she drops a slip of paper with the combination to her bike lock. Should that combination be broadcast to 1000 other students just because she was careless or stupid enough to drop it?
Do you think the person who broadcasts it is cool?
Paul
I can agree with that BUT my kid isn't trying to sell broken bikes as brand new shiny super speed bikes that will go from 0-90mph in just 1 day of practice, aka scamming people with a false and deceptive sales pitch. If she were doing that, and that combination was for the lock on the garage with all of these super bikes that melt as soon as it rains, then sure, I would tell her "you fucked up dear, lesson learned, stop being an asshole and if you want to continue ripping people off at school, learn more of these tactics from the Warrior Forum. But when you're ready to grow up, and make money like a real person, living in reality, and not trying to scam your way to the top, THEN you can come to WickedFire and be treated like a person, until then, stay away!"
LOL, yeah, wouldn't you know it. Out of that 4 minute video, youtube extracts an image where I was holding up a bottle of rum, and I was holding up that bottle for about 4 seconds. It's a snapshot that was randomly extracted by a software that knows nothing about me, yet is basically saying I'm a drunk.
Funny, yes. Bur ironic that you'd bring it up in the context of this thread, jerxs...
Paul
Funny, yes. Bur ironic that you'd bring it up in the context of this thread, jerxs...
Paul
You're pretty suave too.. quite the ladies man. The girls must be beating down your door to score a date with such a witty and well spoken man.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!
Ok, looks like I've wasted the past 4 hours or so thinking that I'd get at least a few minutes worth of intelligent replies on a couple of issues.
Now it's deteriorated into a personal attack, making fun of what I look like, my dating skills... which you know nothing about... not unlike the rest of your replies.
*sigh*
Dude, must you scrape the bottom of the barrel like this?
Come on, give me something at least half assed coherent to reply to.
This is pathetic.
Paul
Now it's deteriorated into a personal attack, making fun of what I look like, my dating skills... which you know nothing about... not unlike the rest of your replies.
*sigh*
Dude, must you scrape the bottom of the barrel like this?
Come on, give me something at least half assed coherent to reply to.
This is pathetic.
Paul
Yeah, it is pathetic.
You come over here just to pick a fight. Well, in the notorious words of the internet kids, you got "PWNED."
Now are you going to accept Jon's invitation to the radio show like you said you were or are you going to leave the forum, like you also said you were?
It was an example. Like the example you posted in the quote below.
Gawd, I don't believe I've wasted all this time on this.
Wow.
Paul
Gawd, I don't believe I've wasted all this time on this.
Wow.
Paul
I'm not sure the overly confrontational style is necessary. I prefer to look at his advice and see if they actually can be useful and critique him on that.
Paul made a post about how using Adbrite or TLA to improve earnings over Adsense. Let's ignore the dollar figures for now. After claiming how using Adbrite or TLA 600 pixel long ads is way better to monetize your site than Adsense. We find out he has never actually done it himself or can provide an example.
Yes, I've heard of Adbrite and TLA and they seem reputable. Yes, I've read good reviews too, yes, I know popular bloggers are using it too. But I would never recommend using them for the average Joe over Adsense without actually testing or using them myself or can provide a concrete example where they have improved earnings 50x over Adsense in your example. I especially wouldn't do it on a forum where members are ready to jump on any hint of BS.
You selling your own ads is no doubt more profitable but that's different than what you are telling people to do.
Geez, I wanted to hear what you had to say and give you a fair shake but damn, that is acting exactly like a "guru" which you said you were not.
Paul made a post about how using Adbrite or TLA to improve earnings over Adsense. Let's ignore the dollar figures for now. After claiming how using Adbrite or TLA 600 pixel long ads is way better to monetize your site than Adsense. We find out he has never actually done it himself or can provide an example.
Yes, I've heard of Adbrite and TLA and they seem reputable. Yes, I've read good reviews too, yes, I know popular bloggers are using it too. But I would never recommend using them for the average Joe over Adsense without actually testing or using them myself or can provide a concrete example where they have improved earnings 50x over Adsense in your example. I especially wouldn't do it on a forum where members are ready to jump on any hint of BS.
You selling your own ads is no doubt more profitable but that's different than what you are telling people to do.
Geez, I wanted to hear what you had to say and give you a fair shake but damn, that is acting exactly like a "guru" which you said you were not.
Read the OP in this thread.
Who was picking the fight?
As for the radio show, holy christ, why the hell would I do that now?
I haven't seen anyone in this thread who could carry on a real conversation about ebooks or marketing. No matter what I said, whether it was valuable or garbage would be treated the same way.
What would happen? Jon would probably just make fun of how I look or call me stupid or some other juvenile crap.
Christ, would YOU go on a radio interview if you knew that would happen to you?
LOL
Paul
Who was picking the fight?
As for the radio show, holy christ, why the hell would I do that now?
I haven't seen anyone in this thread who could carry on a real conversation about ebooks or marketing. No matter what I said, whether it was valuable or garbage would be treated the same way.
What would happen? Jon would probably just make fun of how I look or call me stupid or some other juvenile crap.
Christ, would YOU go on a radio interview if you knew that would happen to you?
LOL
Paul
God damn, I have the popcorn in the microwave... more please!
Paul Short, +rep. You are very entertaining, this is my thread of the month.
Paul Short, +rep. You are very entertaining, this is my thread of the month.
Can't provide an example?
Didn't I say somewhere in this thread that I looked at both and went the route of selling my own links instead?
Anyway, it's not surprising anymore that anything I say or don't say here is twisted so out of shape it's worthless.
Paul
Didn't I say somewhere in this thread that I looked at both and went the route of selling my own links instead?
Anyway, it's not surprising anymore that anything I say or don't say here is twisted so out of shape it's worthless.
Paul
Wow, and here I thought you would have gotten the point already. But I'll be nice and explain it yet again..
Reasons:
1- It was really funny.
2- It was amusing to see a guy (or brothers?) that claims to be banking pretty hardcore and be fucking amazing at whatever it is they are claiming to be doing, and yet, they don't know how to block the spiders from accessing their members area. The one crucial part of their site too!
3- Giving people free access, instead of being scammed for $97 shows just how fucking lame these ebooks are. Here is a great example too! This ebook is being raved about by everyone big and small, and yet, it doesn't teach anything new. Nothing!! It's just the same regurgitating of information that has been open on the regular webmaster and affiliate marketing forums forever. The sales pages were deceptive (what a shocker!) as usual.
I skimmed through it myself, because I am always hoping to find something new from these ebooks. I buy the ones people recommend to me, and then quickly refund them because they are all the same pieces of garbage. I buy them too because I don't want to knock something so hardcore unless I've tried it. For years now I've been buying them, and end up refunding it within 24 hours or less. The authors may say "well, why don't you give it a try?". Why don't I try it? Because there is NOTHING new in them. They are all bits and pieces of shit that I have done in the passed, or know for a fact that it's outdated or just flat out doesn't work.
This goes back to my whole rant in the beginning.. It may sound like a fucking great idea on paper or in a sales page of pure hyped up promises, but at the end of the day, when you try them in reality, the shit that was promised does not even compare! Nowhere close too! I've spoken to TONS of people who have purchased ebooks for these topics, and not a single goddamn one of them has ever said "you know, I learned a lot from that ebook, it's really good stuff and well worth the price I paid". NO ONE!! Only the ebook's JV partner testimonials say it, and who gives a shit what they think or say, we know they are lying!! They only do it so the author of this one does that same favor for them! Again, the never ending cycle of the ebook get rich quick and marketing world. It's been like this for years and will continue to do so!
These ebooks by the way, are the SAME type of marketing and false hopes and promises just like the infomercials that try and convince you that if you buy their system, you will become a real estate giant in a year or less. Do any of them make it? I highly doubt it. Instead people get bilked into investing more and more money for seminars, teleseminars, more books, and blah blah.. it just never ends.
You haven't said a goddamn good thing yet about this, and I don't expect you to see things clearly either here, because you are warped and used to hearing about success stories, one after another that are completely made up. Speaking of which.. you had a motivational and self-help newsletter, what the fuck did you motivate them to do? You also gave out some advice, and yet, you were called out on it almost immediately and you still haven't proven to us that you even use your own advice/techniques to do what you just said is a much better idea.
You can't prove yourself here, so quit trying. I'm not going to ban you or edit your posts or mine either, and I haven't yet, so quit trying to seem like you know more than we do, because when it comes down to it, you are just a big 'ol piece of shit scammer who happens to also be a Moderator over at the Warrior Forum.
You're boring already.. send over the next victim please. How about one of the big boy authors or seminar guru fucks? I'd love to have a chat with those dildos.
Paul,
Its funny that you should say we've all resorted to name calling now and picking on the way you look because we have not given you any valuable information.
Well think about it, you haven't even said one little thing of value in this entire argument, nothing at all, don't even think about going back to re-align your quotes on this ether because seriously you've not said one little thing that makes you reputable.
But if thats all your hear for, is to start an argument to try and extract some valuable tips from quality marketers then you really don't have a clue what the fuck your talking about, that could also be used as proof that you have no real knowledge of how things work because you just steal the idea's of others and try to prey on them.
Sure this might not be the case but its starting to look that way, don't acuse us of not providing any quality informative marketing responces when you, yourself have not done so.
Its funny that you should say we've all resorted to name calling now and picking on the way you look because we have not given you any valuable information.
Well think about it, you haven't even said one little thing of value in this entire argument, nothing at all, don't even think about going back to re-align your quotes on this ether because seriously you've not said one little thing that makes you reputable.
But if thats all your hear for, is to start an argument to try and extract some valuable tips from quality marketers then you really don't have a clue what the fuck your talking about, that could also be used as proof that you have no real knowledge of how things work because you just steal the idea's of others and try to prey on them.
Sure this might not be the case but its starting to look that way, don't acuse us of not providing any quality informative marketing responces when you, yourself have not done so.
Paul.. you're an idiot, and you know it. You came here looking for confrontation, and you got it. You tried to salvage your image here for just a moment, but instead you acted like the very ebook guru you swore you weren't. You gave out advice on something you never even did yourself, and when given the opportunity to redeem yourself and post the sites, you just ignored it and moved on. Don't try and play the mature guy or victim role now, because you are just doomed for more and more abuse.
I don't want you on the show, so it's okay, you're safe from that. I would like however to speak to one of your superiors or maybe someone you can recommend come here or someone interested in defending or even debating about these marketing tactics and styles of the get rich quick ebooks. They all claim to be anything but, but always turn out to be exactly that.
So instead of wasting time on a small fish like Paul Short over here, send us over a big fish from your community who isn't such a goddamn easy target. You're actually really lucky that a lot of the real tough guys here weren't on tonight, because then you'd probably end up killing yourself from the stuff they'd be coming up with. Have fun motivating people or doing whatever it is that you do.
I think the responses were pretty good actually.. some were harsh and overly profane by me and some others, but overall it was good. The other sections on this forum are for information. He came here looking for a fight, he lost, and he just can't accept that he is everything we dislike from Warrior Forum, minus the ebook authoring bit.
We can't clue him in because he thinks he's a guru, and let's not forget, he's also a motivational emailer, and did a fine job motivating lots of us here to take a closer look at his claims and "advice". So without that absolutely amazing motivation from an expert like him, we would have had to resort to juvenile remarks and name calling more than usual. Thanks Paul!
I read through this again, just had to comment on this.
Apparently you don't have any non-internet savvy friends or family that could get fooled by these ebook bait and switch fuckers. People who buy this book are new to making money online, and probably don't have much to start out with. These ebooks promise the world and deliver shit. How would you feel if your mom bought this ebook? My guess is pissed.
Paul.. instead of typing your dorky responses, why don't you make a video response instead! But don't drink beforehand this time, and maybe shave too.
Good thing you were a motivational emailer and not a speaker, because putting people to sleep isn't very motivating. At least on an email newsletter you can appear to know what you are talking about to people who don't really know any better.
You're doing a fantastic job, keep at it. I'm sure with a little more time and effort here you can make your sites jump from $1200/yr to $5k a year, but you may have to go against your own advice and use Adsense again, but don't worry, as long as you don't tell anyone we won't make fun.
Good thing you were a motivational emailer and not a speaker, because putting people to sleep isn't very motivating. At least on an email newsletter you can appear to know what you are talking about to people who don't really know any better.
You're doing a fantastic job, keep at it. I'm sure with a little more time and effort here you can make your sites jump from $1200/yr to $5k a year, but you may have to go against your own advice and use Adsense again, but don't worry, as long as you don't tell anyone we won't make fun.
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