Muslims behead a 9-year-old boy

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What kind of link is that? There's not even a single credible site in that list.

I spent a year and half in China and I can tell you that that's NOT a muslim-chinese name, at all. He could be, but highly unlikely, especially since he was working at a Catholic Church in Winnipeg!

Vincent Weiguang Li is from Dandong, North-East China (at the border of North Korea). Chinese Muslims come from the complete opposite part of China (Xinjiang). Of course the average guy doesn't know that and believes anything the media says. That's why I keep saying: Travel the world and you'll understand that 90% of what the media is feeding you is bullshit.

Honestly though, why do you all get your news from fucked up websites?

I give up. You're right. Mike Tyson must be a Muslim name right? You won't find any legitimate sites because of the outcry that followed the incident. After the CBC here in Canada were forced to remove any information linking Li to the Muslim religion. Other sites and broadcast networks soon followed suit.

And lets not get personal here, comparing your travels to mine. I spent 13 years meeting good muslims, bad muslims and many other people -- some religious some not.
 


Here are the facts:

there are daily terror attacks carried out by muslims

there are not daily terror attacks carried out by christians

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They have came out,
Wafa Sultan,
British ex-Muslim council
Ayaan Hirsi Ali
Magdi Allam
Mithal Al-Alusi
Shaker Al-Nabulsi
Nonie Darwish
Afshin Ellian
Tawfik Hamid
Shahriar Kabir
Hasan Mahmud
Wafa Sultan
Amir Taheri
Ibn Warraq
Manda Zand Ervin
Banafsheh Zand-Bonazzi

These people are risking their life daily condemning things that you hate. Surely they deserve some recognition?

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We need more brave people like this guy, but again, not everybody that denounce Islam can leave for the US.
Muslims are regular people too, with jobs, families etc and saying what this guy just did in an Islamic country would warrant the death sentence.

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My pleasure!

FYI, they're not fighting terrorism, they're just fighting Islam.

Only an army can fight another army.

I see what you are saying Clyde. For a moment I thought these were the voices from within Islam crying for reform. But clearly these are voices from outside of the religion crying for reform.

I have seen many posts saying there is reason within Islam and that the West ignores them. But I still do not see it. I want to change my mind. But certainly the above list is all from outside Islam.

If the Muslims doing the violence are a "fringe element" and not endorsed by the religion. Where are they? Who are they?
 
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Why would you not feel uncomfortable as a white/black/asian/indian man amongst any group who is taught from birth to not trust or flat out hate you?

This quote you made clearly states that you didn't recognize there to be any white muslims, since they are the "group" who by your terms aren't white. Learn my friend. Ever heard of this continent called Europe? With WHITE EUROPEAN MUSLIMS, who don't wear towels on their heads and carry uzis? They hold regular jobs at the office, don't speak a lick of Arabic and are just trying to live in peace.

Back when I lived in NJ, our neighbors were Muslim. They were the nicest people, real polite and helpful. They watched football, played basketball, had cookouts.

They were regular-ass people, except their food was much better, they were well-educated, fairly wealthy corporate drones.

Oh, and they were immigrants too.

Honestly, I think all this anti-Muslim sentiment is just a result of not being exposed to other cultures/not getting to know your neighbors/not living in a multi-ethnic community.

I think we can talk it out and sort out the problems Muslims have with the West. Most of it revolves around the whole Israel/Palestine fiasco. And most smart Muslims know it's the Palestinians causing all the bullshit with their suicide bombings and rocket attacks on civilians.

The rest are dumb Muslims who have no goals in life so they cling to fundamentalism because it fills that vacuum.

FINALLY SOMEONE WITH SOME FUCKING SENSE!!

Not all rapist look like pee wee herman, not all serial killers look like jeff. daumer, and not all suicide bombers are older muslim males ( children and women too ), so whats your point?

If a white muslim was sitting next to me on the train with my kid, there would be no way I would know it. It would be risk I could not control, since I didnt see it or know about it. If I sat next to Belle Sorenson Gunness in the same train, I wouldnt know she was a serial killer either. This is risk I cant control since I dont sense it or see it upfront. Just like riding on that train and not know it was about to derail.

You know that plenty of super models from Eastern Europe are Muslim. So if you're sitting next to some hot smokin chick on the train who's on her way to a photoshoot and you somehow find out that she's Muslim are you gonna piss your pants and run away like a bitch?

Point is you're afraid of everything that's not exactly like you. Your fear controls you and your life. The comments you've made in this thread tell quite a story of how you really have no cultural or world experience of any kind.

What makes you appear to be a child is your utopian view of the world. It's just not practical, and is likely to fuck you over hard eventually.

You know the saying, "If you're young and aren't a liberal you have no heart; and if you're Old and aren't a conservative you have no brain?" -It perfectly applies here. -Not that I strictly vote conservative or anything like that. But it's a very hippy-dippy, naive worldview indeed to stand up for muslim equality like you're doing here. In fact you're making things WORSE, and I'm sure one day you'll learn.

Maybe it's not that i'm too young, but perhaps you're too old and becoming obsolete? You have no idea what i've been through and where i've been man. If you think that my "utopian" world view is too risky for you then do me a favor and throw away all your favorite records, tapes and CDs cuz most of the artists that made the music that has enhanced your life share my views and don't share your fear.

I'm sorry dude but I think YOU are making things worse. Fearmongering only leads to more fear. Fear leads to isolation, prejudice and stigmas. Those lead to judgement and generalizations. Those eventually lead to hate, dismay and racism. And we all know what those lead to! WARRRRRRR.

You think you're creating peace and awareness, but all you're doing is fueling the fire with what seems like conservative right wing born again Christian rhetoric. (I find it odd that you claim to be Atheist)


OK, yoda... Oh, excepting if you think that so-called "Fear" might save their life, of course.
Having an objective awareness is far more effective and intelligent than just fearing everything of what you might call the same ilk. Ya know awareness saves lives too. The difference is that awareness doesn't create fear, that's why it's called awareness. Being AWARE of something. You might also call it street smarts.

Try walking around Brooklyn at night full of fear and see how far you get. I bet you won't last very long at all. Try walking around with awareness and you will go a lot farther I guarantee.


So I suspect he tried to convert my boss or someone else who took it the wrong way and when they responded negatively, he threatened them... Possibly with a bomb.
Again with your fearmongering and assumptions. You have no proof that he had a bomb do you? For all you know the guy got angry and was disturbing the peace and cops were called. Maybe he did have a bomb, maybe he just had a temper.

Point is, you don't know...neither do I. But your statement lacks total objectivity and you're making assumptions based on your prejudices. You would be a horrible journalist.


Your problem is thinking it's a minuscule fraction. Read moar.

2 billion muslims, all thinking the koran (the worst hate speech on earth!) is a good book. That's some fucked up shit.
You realize there are lot of Muslims who don't practice it the way you're saying right? Ya know, like they go to a Mosque like once a year for EID and then go back to watching America's Got Talent and their shitty day job? Many of which may not even read it cuz they were simply born into it. Again, you and your generalizations dude.

If it makes it easy and convenient for you to lump 2 billion people together and slap a label on them cuz you're too lazy to think about it deeper then help yourself. But saying "SEEEEE See these 2 billion people I have here?? They're all the same!!!" is just straight ignorance dude.

I do not think Hitler and the drug lords you mentioned killed all those people for religious reasons.

So the fact that like 95% of all of the Holocaust victims were Jewish is just coincidence right?

ALL MUSLIMS ARE GUILTY of not stopping their religion's problem from being so damn extreme. They don't try to stop the worst among themselves like we do.

Shouldn't "Good" muslims WANT to stop the evil in their ranks so they themselves don't look so bad for the association?

Bottom line here is that "Good muslims" are enabling the bad ones, and never do good muslims try and stop them.

This is the biggest crock of shit i've heard in a while and i've heard a lot of shit. So let me get this straight. The 80 year old grandmother who is living in Bosnia, who is Muslim, is guilty for not getting out of her rocking chair and traveling to the Mid East to fight some radicals with guns and bombs with her kitchen utensils? Are you nuts?

How do know there aren't plenty of Muslims that WANT to stop the evil? Are you living with any? Do you talk to them on a daily basis? Obviously not. Your projections make your arguments weak and hollow. You make vast assumptions and generalizations and you think you know what you're talking about, but you sound as ridiculous as Sarah Palin talking about having experience with Russia because Alaska shares the Bering straight with it.


He wasn't screaming religious slogans when he murdered people, he was pretending it was for the good of Germany and his regime.

He didn't need to verbally scream. His actions did that for him. Like really you can't figure that out? Thing is, Hitler was more surreptitious about it than just going head on with a battering ram, doesn't mean his motive was all that different. But apparently he has you fooled.
 
What many of the people in this thread think Muslims only look like...

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What some other Muslims look like...

Cat Stevens

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Ali

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Jacko

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Malcolm X

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Dave Chapelle

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Some countries with substantial white muslim populations:

Russia, Albania, Kosovo, Bosnia/Herzegovina, Macedonia, Ukraine, Serbia, Montenegro.



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All this being said, I think Muslims do need to stop and think about their own people and why things are the way they are.
 
Hey Stupid Guys,

Muslim Country - Azerbaijan just won Eurovision Song Contest. So do you think they are terrorists? Are they different from you? No, they are even better than you. They just outranked 40 Christian countries with the culture.

Stop the shit. All of your brains are induced by US media. Think by logic. Most of you haven't even read the Koran and you say that the women don't have enough rights in Islam. In fact, in Islam women have much more rights than in Christianity. The problem is not with religion, but with politics.

The current so called Islam countries are not ruled by Islamic law - Koran. They are politically Islamic, but religiously not Islamic. That is why they make you think that the problem with Islam. Read Koran and then tell me that Islam is a terror. The problem is with Islamist political groups who don't understand Islam and controlled mainly by special groups who try to control people to make money from oil etc.

You, narrow-minded guys, first learn what the Islam is, then come here. I can show you hundreds proofs/pictures where christians killed children by beheading, killing pregnant women with the most worst forms, but I don't say the reason is Christianity or Jesus.

US people are narrow-minded and controlled by US media.

What to expect from citizens who voted for George Bush twice? Answer this now. Did you know that Older George Bush was friend with Bin Laden's father? There are many documentaries about this.

Refresh your brain.
 
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What some other Muslims look like...

I'd still rather look at her :

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THE BIG MUSLIM SHAMROCK :

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IRISH AMERICAN MUSLIM :

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ITALIAN AMERICAN MUSLIM :

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Hey Stupid Guys,

Muslim Country - Azerbaijan just won Eurovision Song Contest. So do you think they are terrorists? Are they different from you? No, they are even better than you. They just outranked 40 Christian countries with the culture.

Stop the shit. All of your brains are induced by US media. Think by logic. Most of you haven't even read the Koran and you say that the women don't have enough rights in Islam. In fact, in Islam women have much more rights than in Christianity. The problem is not with religion, but with politics.

The current so called Islam countries are not ruled by Islamic law - Koran. They are politically Islamic, but religiously not Islamic. That is why they make you think that the problem with Islam. Read Koran and then tell me that Islam is a terror. The problem is with Islamist political groups who don't understand Islam and controlled mainly by special groups who try to control people to make money from oil etc.

You, narrow-minded guys, first learn what the Islam is, then come here. I can show you hundreds proofs/pictures where christians killed children by beheading, killing pregnant women with the most worst forms, but I don't say the reason is Christianity or Jesus.

US people are narrow-minded and controlled by US media.

What to expect from citizens who voted for George Bush twice? Answer this now. Did you know that Older George Bush was friend with Bin Laden's father? There are many documentaries about this.

Refresh your brain.

Liar.
 
He didn't need to verbally scream. His actions did that for him. Like really you can't figure that out? Thing is, Hitler was more surreptitious about it than just going head on with a battering ram, doesn't mean his motive was all that different. But apparently he has you fooled.

You're making a whole lot of assumptions there. If you're willing to back-up what you're saying with more than just a few guesses, I'd be willing to listen.

I have some suspicions that you don't know what the fuck you are talking about in many of your replies, but truthfully I don't have knowledge of how well versed you are in any of this. From the responses you have been giving, I would guess not very.

Hitler didn't fool anyone, he had ideological principles that were based more around gaining of power and elimination of various racial/deviant/sexual orientation elements of society attempting to achieve some sort of genetic purity (or so Hitler believed). He wasn't doing all this as a religious fanatic, no matter what your blind eyes believe.

It is funny that you pick out only one of my points, and try to go after it, and don't even do it in a convincing fashion. All you do is spew personal opinions and views that have no basis in the history, or the situation.

Positions based on personal opinion that are not backed up by fact make your arguments invalid.
 
He won't "associate with" Muslims and wants to punch them when he sees them. You don't see how this is different than not wanting to let the random mechanic guy down the street babysit your

I have to just say it, you sir are an idiot. Please show me one line on this thread I clearly said I wanted to punch them?
 
FYI Jacko never converted to Islam. His brother, who is muslim confirmed this after his death. He was however beginning to learn about the teachings.

Yes, that's why he molested all those kids. His conversion was going to happen as soon as he impregnated a 9 year old. However, he died before that happened.
 
Yes, that's why he molested all those kids. His conversion was going to happen as soon as he impregnated a 9 year old. However, he died before that happened.

Not sure what your comment has to do with anything. I was just pointing out another inaccuracy in this guy's comments.
 
I have to just say it, you sir are an idiot. Please show me one line on this thread I clearly said I wanted to punch them?

I earlier had said :

"So if most people here went to a marketing dinner party, they would not only refuse to sit next to a Muslim, but also would want to punch the person (or whatever not control yourself means) ??"

You never clarified what you meant after that. Would not controlling yourself mean you would shit your pants, sing God Bless America, feel you had to strike up a conversation about Kareem Abdul Jabbar's basketball career, or what?
 
I earlier had said :

"So if most people here went to a marketing dinner party, they would not only refuse to sit next to a Muslim, but also would want to punch the person (or whatever not control yourself means) ??"

EXACTLY. Earlier YOU said it, he didn't.

So you assuming that he wants to punch them is an idiot move on your part.