Muslims behead a 9-year-old boy



60 Million? Hitler? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

I do not believe the entire continent of Europe had 60 Million people on it in 1945. Idiot.

Furthermore:

1. It is so unfair to compare Islam to "non-muslims" that we cannot take you seriously. Please stick to one religion or group when you compare Islam to something else.

2. Find us one other group, in all of history, that kills this many, and this often:
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GTFO, fool.
 
Sure, just examine the biography of Muhammad the prophet.
Read the Quran.
Look at how Women are treated in Islamic countries.

Why not go into details on each of those points instead of being vague and have you ever been to any muslims countries to make such an absurd generalization as to the "treatment of women in muslim countries". Tell me what exactly are you referring to, honor killings (which are often done by tribal/fuedal people and is purely cultural with no relation to Islam)? The Taliban (as I said, dont even bring wahhabi inspired groups into this)? Saudi's not allowing women to drive (again wahhabi's)? Genital mutilations (again tribal with no basis in Islam)? the Burkha (which is purely cultural as women dont have to cover their face)? Do you even know any muslim girls personally or ask them how they are treated?

Bring me the Quran with the verses you refer to in what context it is written that you are so against. Do you want to talk about the Jewish tribe of Qurayza? The 9 yr old wife Aisha?

If you want to have an actual discussion please bring every point along with all references to the said incident before you can be taken seriously.
 
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Why not go into details on each of those points instead of being vague and have you ever been to any muslims countries to make such an absurd generalization as to the "treatment of women in muslim countries". Tell me what exactly are you referring to, honor killings (which are often done by tribal/fuedal people and is purely cultural with no relation to Islam)? The Taliban (as I said, dont even bring wahhabi inspired groups into this)? Saudi's not allowing women to drive (again wahhabi's)? Genital mutilations (again tribal with no basis in Islam)? the Burkha (which is purely cultural as women dont have to cover their face)? Do you even know any muslim girls personally or ask them how they are treated?

Bring me the Quran with the verses you refer to in what context it is written that you are so against. Do you want to talk about the Jewish tribe of Qurayza? The 9 yr old wife Aisha?

If you want to have an actual discussion please bring every point along with all references to the said incident before you can be taken seriously.

Read the fucking thread.

There have been MULTIPLE verses DIRECTLY from the quran regarding the evil nature of the religion.

Address those posts instead of targeting one point you don't like.

Defend your point against the actual words of the book from which you believe the truth comes.

So far, no pro-islam (or pro-religion for that matter) poster has brought up anything of value when you look at a true debate. It is all generalities, hearsay, logical fallacies, assumptions, etc...

Go back. Read the quotes. Address those. Argue as to why it isn't true, even though it comes out of the very book that this religion follows.
 
60 Million? Hitler? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

I do not believe the entire continent of Europe had 60 Million people on it in 1945. Idiot.

Furthermore:

1. It is so unfair to compare Islam to "non-muslims" that we cannot take you seriously. Please stick to one religion or group when you compare Islam to something else.

2. Find us one other group, in all of history, that kills this many, and this often:
TROP.jpg


GTFO, fool.

Okay lets just say 6 Million, isnt it too much for a single person?

More than 50K people were killed last year in the tribal areas just because they were living at the place where there were some talibans.. (According to agencies/X Country).

Don't you think they are forced to become a terrorists & extremists?

If one of your family member was killed like that, what were you supposed to do? Judge It Honestly.

It is not a solution at last.. the only solution is spreading humanity, love & peace.. these kinda irritating & harsh threads make them a little more forced to go against everyone. They are not of us.

If a family member gets sick, we try to recover the situation, not kill them? a few hundreds?

Reference :- http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=6147172660&topic=38467

Thanks
 
I'm debating whether to turn this into a drawn out discussion or not.

Suffice to say, your position is very simplistic, based on a superficial understanding of humanity.

Bottom line is that if there is no outside source of morality ("God"), we can make up whatever morals we want, and arbitrarily deem them valid. And they will be valid.

We can rationalize that human beings are somehow special and we should treat human better than shit, but that's equally valid as "human beings are just a collection of atoms, worth as much as a sack of hammers, and we can kill maim and torture 'em if we want."

We obviously don't do that. We think humans are special. But we have no objective reason to do so.

The only way to objectively believe humans are worth more than shit is to say "God made us special."

Without the idea of God, humanism- or the idea that human beings are somehow special, deserve rights and treatment better than animals has no basis.

So what noble religion or creed do you worship or follow? You don't need religious beliefs to be ethical. Society can determine that. Not religion. You don't need religion in order to be ethical. Society determines that - even primate society :p
 
You're still confusing behavior with morality.

You need to be able to think independently of the dogma and question what you know. You can't do all this with blind faith in your primatologists.

If you're serious, ask yourself on what basis an ape's behavior is considered selfish, and whether an ape sees it this way. If you reach this point of thinking, you'll go "WTF I don't know if apes see that act as selfish or not, I'm just interpreting behavior as if it's a person doing it."

That's when you know you're thinking for yourself and not succumbing to primatology-worship.

And ya, we ARE talking about behavior. "Muslims behead a 9-year old boy". Suicide bombings, etc. I'll be more than happy if such social behavior stops.
 
60 Million? Hitler? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

I do not believe the entire continent of Europe had 60 Million people on it in 1945. Idiot.

Furthermore:

1. It is so unfair to compare Islam to "non-muslims" that we cannot take you seriously. Please stick to one religion or group when you compare Islam to something else.

2. Find us one other group, in all of history, that kills this many, and this often:
TROP.jpg


GTFO, fool.

I'll assume you are trying to replace hellblazer as king troll of wickedfire. If not, I suggest you take some of the time you spend learning about Muslim radicals and spend it on learning basic world history. Also, intro terrorism and criminology classes would help you.

Europe had 400 million people in it around World War II.

Genocides and alleged genocides - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Genocides in history - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Religious war - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Most of those 17,000+ terror attacks occurred in Africa and the Middle East. The average wickedfire member does not live in those places.

After 9/11, the next 3 biggest terrorist attacks in the USA were not done by Muslims.

Oklahoma City Bombing
Mountain Meadows Massacre
Wall Street Bombing

After that, it is the Fort Hood shooter who killed 13.

There have been 25 or more serial killers in the US that are said to each have killed more than 13 people.

The Green River Killer alone may have murdered 90 people. Most serial killers have been white males.
 
I'll assume you are trying to replace hellblazer as king troll of wickedfire. If not, I suggest you take some of the time you spend learning about Muslim radicals and spend it on learning basic world history. Also, intro terrorism and criminology classes would help you.

Europe had 400 million people in it around World War II.

Genocides and alleged genocides - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Genocides in history - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Religious war - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Most of those 17,000+ terror attacks occurred in Africa and the Middle East. The average wickedfire member does not live in those places.

After 9/11, the next 3 biggest terrorist attacks in the USA were not done by Muslims.

Oklahoma City Bombing
Mountain Meadows Massacre
Wall Street Bombing

After that, it is the Fort Hood shooter who killed 13.

There have been 25 or more serial killers in the US that are said to each have killed more than 13 people.

The Green River Killer alone may have murdered 90 people. Most serial killers have been white males.

Exactly you're right, but again with due respect, we are peace loving people and want to live peacefully.

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It's all about give and take :)
 
Absolutely correct, the largest terrorist attack on the USA was done by Muslims.

Also, the largest terrorist attack on the USA was done by males.



Ending Suicide Terrorism - by Ron Paul

I, like many, have assumed that the driving force behind the suicide attacks was Islamic fundamentalism...

Pape has collected a database of every suicide terrorist attack between 1980 and 2004, all 462 of them. His conclusions are enlightening and crucial to our understanding the true motivation behind the attacks against Western nations by Islamic terrorists...

Religious beliefs are less important than supposed. For instance, the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka, a Marxist secular group, are the world's leader in suicide terrorism . The largest Islamic fundamentalist countries have not been responsible for any suicide terrorist attack. None have come from Iran or the Sudan. Until the U.S. invasion of Iraq, Iraq never had a suicide terrorist attack in all of its history. Between 1995 and 2004, the al-Qaeda years, two-thirds of all attacks came from countries where the U.S. had troops stationed...

The clincher is this: the strongest motivation, according to Pape, is not religion but rather a desire "to compel modern democracies to withdraw military forces from the territory the terrorists view as their homeland."

The best news is that if stopping suicide terrorism is a goal we seek, a solution is available to us. Cease the occupation of foreign lands, and the suicide missions will cease. Between 1982 and 1986, there were 41 suicide terrorist attacks in Lebanon. Once the U.S., the French, and Israel withdrew their forces from Lebanon, there were no more attacks. The reason the attacks stop, according to Pape, is that the Osama bin Ladens of the world no longer can inspire potential suicide terrorists despite their continued fanatical religious beliefs.
 
So what noble religion or creed do you worship or follow? You don't need religious beliefs to be ethical. Society can determine that. Not religion. You don't need religion in order to be ethical. Society determines that - even primate society :p

If you confuse beliefs and actions with the basis for them, then sure.

Societies are equally capable of oppressing, enslaving, killing and raping, at least as capable as they are of being moral.

Gotta read the history books and learn to make some distinctions to understand that though. :)

And ya, we ARE talking about behavior. "Muslims behead a 9-year old boy". Suicide bombings, etc. I'll be more than happy if such social behavior stops.

Yeah, we've done that topic to death.

It's terrible, but I don't judge an entire group by one act.
 
WHAT THE FUCK...

Please someone tell me why I should not ban this man.

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Because it's one big troll thread? Apparently my trolling finally worked. I see this thread the same way I see the tipping thread useless banter that tried to piss people off.
 
Read the fucking thread.

There have been MULTIPLE verses DIRECTLY from the quran regarding the evil nature of the religion.

Address those posts instead of targeting one point you don't like.

Defend your point against the actual words of the book from which you believe the truth comes.

So far, no pro-islam (or pro-religion for that matter) poster has brought up anything of value when you look at a true debate. It is all generalities, hearsay, logical fallacies, assumptions, etc...

Go back. Read the quotes. Address those. Argue as to why it isn't true, even though it comes out of the very book that this religion follows.

I' not even gonna waste my time on this stupidity and ignorance. Time to haul your ass back to Crenshaw Pete Euphoria...

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In the meanwhile...I have money to make.
 
I' not even gonna waste my time on this stupidity and ignorance. Time to haul your ass back to Crenshaw Pete Euphoria...



In the meanwhile...I have money to make.

Not going to waste your time because you can't rise to the challenge.

Nice way to attempt to play it off :)

Go make your monies you'll need it to feel better after failing so hard in this thread.

*Note to OP: Congratulations on the troll thread of the month.