Sure, just examine the biography of Muhammad the prophet.
Read the Quran.
Look at how Women are treated in Islamic countries.
Why not go into details on each of those points instead of being vague and have you ever been to any muslims countries to make such an absurd generalization as to the "treatment of women in muslim countries". Tell me what exactly are you referring to, honor killings (which are often done by tribal/fuedal people and is purely cultural with no relation to Islam)? The Taliban (as I said, dont even bring wahhabi inspired groups into this)? Saudi's not allowing women to drive (again wahhabi's)? Genital mutilations (again tribal with no basis in Islam)? the Burkha (which is purely cultural as women dont have to cover their face)? Do you even know any muslim girls personally or ask them how they are treated?
Bring me the Quran with the verses you refer to in what context it is written that you are so against. Do you want to talk about the Jewish tribe of Qurayza? The 9 yr old wife Aisha?
If you want to have an actual discussion please bring every point along with all references to the said incident before you can be taken seriously.
60 Million? Hitler? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
I do not believe the entire continent of Europe had 60 Million people on it in 1945. Idiot.
Furthermore:
1. It is so unfair to compare Islam to "non-muslims" that we cannot take you seriously. Please stick to one religion or group when you compare Islam to something else.
2. Find us one other group, in all of history, that kills this many, and this often:
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GTFO, fool.
I'm debating whether to turn this into a drawn out discussion or not.
Suffice to say, your position is very simplistic, based on a superficial understanding of humanity.
Bottom line is that if there is no outside source of morality ("God"), we can make up whatever morals we want, and arbitrarily deem them valid. And they will be valid.
We can rationalize that human beings are somehow special and we should treat human better than shit, but that's equally valid as "human beings are just a collection of atoms, worth as much as a sack of hammers, and we can kill maim and torture 'em if we want."
We obviously don't do that. We think humans are special. But we have no objective reason to do so.
The only way to objectively believe humans are worth more than shit is to say "God made us special."
Without the idea of God, humanism- or the idea that human beings are somehow special, deserve rights and treatment better than animals has no basis.
You're still confusing behavior with morality.
You need to be able to think independently of the dogma and question what you know. You can't do all this with blind faith in your primatologists.
If you're serious, ask yourself on what basis an ape's behavior is considered selfish, and whether an ape sees it this way. If you reach this point of thinking, you'll go "WTF I don't know if apes see that act as selfish or not, I'm just interpreting behavior as if it's a person doing it."
That's when you know you're thinking for yourself and not succumbing to primatology-worship.
60 Million? Hitler? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
I do not believe the entire continent of Europe had 60 Million people on it in 1945. Idiot.
Furthermore:
1. It is so unfair to compare Islam to "non-muslims" that we cannot take you seriously. Please stick to one religion or group when you compare Islam to something else.
2. Find us one other group, in all of history, that kills this many, and this often:
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GTFO, fool.
How do some of you feel about this innocent farm boy who was killed and had his fingers cut off as a trophy by Soldiers in Afghanistan?:
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Man, they only killed the boy when they could have taken out the whole village? That was a sad day.
I'll assume you are trying to replace hellblazer as king troll of wickedfire. If not, I suggest you take some of the time you spend learning about Muslim radicals and spend it on learning basic world history. Also, intro terrorism and criminology classes would help you.
Europe had 400 million people in it around World War II.
Genocides and alleged genocides - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Genocides in history - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Most of those 17,000+ terror attacks occurred in Africa and the Middle East. The average wickedfire member does not live in those places.
After 9/11, the next 3 biggest terrorist attacks in the USA were not done by Muslims.
Oklahoma City Bombing
Mountain Meadows Massacre
Wall Street Bombing
After that, it is the Fort Hood shooter who killed 13.
There have been 25 or more serial killers in the US that are said to each have killed more than 13 people.
The Green River Killer alone may have murdered 90 people. Most serial killers have been white males.
After 9/11, the next 3 biggest terrorist attacks in the USA were not done by Muslims.
Absolutely correct, the largest terrorist attack on the USA was done by Muslims.
Absolutely correct, the largest terrorist attack on the USA was done by Muslims.
So what noble religion or creed do you worship or follow? You don't need religious beliefs to be ethical. Society can determine that. Not religion. You don't need religion in order to be ethical. Society determines that - even primate society![]()
And ya, we ARE talking about behavior. "Muslims behead a 9-year old boy". Suicide bombings, etc. I'll be more than happy if such social behavior stops.
WHAT THE FUCK...
Please someone tell me why I should not ban this man.
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Read the fucking thread.
There have been MULTIPLE verses DIRECTLY from the quran regarding the evil nature of the religion.
Address those posts instead of targeting one point you don't like.
Defend your point against the actual words of the book from which you believe the truth comes.
So far, no pro-islam (or pro-religion for that matter) poster has brought up anything of value when you look at a true debate. It is all generalities, hearsay, logical fallacies, assumptions, etc...
Go back. Read the quotes. Address those. Argue as to why it isn't true, even though it comes out of the very book that this religion follows.
I' not even gonna waste my time on this stupidity and ignorance. Time to haul your ass back to Crenshaw Pete Euphoria...
In the meanwhile...I have money to make.