could shoemoney be full of it?

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you mean shoemoney might exaggerate... NOT HIM.... OH NOEZ.
 
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You could use that mentality for anything. Why give google your niches? Why give Azoogle your niches? Why give copeac your niches?

But granted there is a eBay aff program so I guess you could use that, but with AuctionAds you get a better payout due to the volume. What free script can signup 5000 people to eBay and get you to that next tier with the script owner not taking a cut for 6 months?

Umm Yeah.........well ok now I don't have a response to jened because this pretty much sums it up.
 
that's cool - so after 6 months, then it might be time to evaluate? i'm just trying to figure out what way to go myself. like i said, i don't have any current sites, but may try to set some up next week.
 
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that's cool - so after 6 months, then it might be time to evaluate? i'm just trying to figure out what way to go myself. like i said, i don't have any current sites, but may try to set some up next week.
Yeah exactly, use these 6 months to your advantage
 
id imagine once shoe gets into the highest tier (if he isnt already) he'll keep the highest tier earnings for himself and everyone else have the tier below thats earnings.

Hell he could even make money from people not meeting the minimum payout rate.
 
So you would still know who he was and read his blog if he didn't flash around his paychecks and hummer pics, rofl

all these responses are typical for the shoemoney sheep

I listen to Shawn Collin's radio and read to his blog, does that make me a Shawn Collins sheep? He talks about affiliate shit, I'm an affiliate, so I listen to it. It's as simple as that.
 
He seems to like depicting some people its funny because I always hate people who use the stock Blogger Templates, oh look he has spent the $2 bucks for his own Domain Name though, how nice, too bad he cannot design worth of shit.

Sorry to take this thread off topic but the above comment intrigued me.

So you "hate" people who use Blogger stock templates? Any reason for this? I use a Blogger stock template. And the reason I do is that "I cannot design worth of shit" as you so eloquently put it.

So does this mean by blog is rubbish and you hate it? Does it mean I won't get anyone reading it? Or maybe I won't get listed in the serps because it is a "stock template". Or maybe it just looks ugly? Please tell me your reasoning behind these comments.

Just so you know although I cannot "design worth of shit" I do employ a team of designers. And the reason why I haven't asked them to redesign my blog in a custom template is because its just not a priority. My business is Affiliate Marketing and they are far too busy making websites and projects that earn money. My blog is just a hobby, something self indulgent. Sure it does make money but thats more accident than design.
 
Shoemoney has a lot more stuff on the record to prove he's legit than chrislingle ever did.

My one complaint about him is that his blog has so much junk mixed in with the occasional good post. For every one that gives you useful info, there are five or ten boring industry gossip posts with radio or conference news or gifts somebody mailed him or something. Trim away that fat from his blog and it'd be comparable to Jon's.

Then again... maybe some people like it that way.
 
My one complaint about him is that his blog has so much junk mixed in with the occasional good post.

It's his blog, he can do whatever he likes.

I do agree that his blog is quite crappy with occassional good pots, and the number of quality posts are decreasing.:sleep:
 
Not that I'm taking one side or another, but along with the dumb points in this article there are a couple lines that make me go hrmmmmm. Good writeup I thinks.
 
This is what an English guy sounds like when he's REALLY pissed off:

Sorry to take this thread off topic but the above comment intrigued me.

So you "hate" people who use Blogger stock templates? Any reason for this? I use a Blogger stock template. And the reason I do is that "I cannot design worth of shit" as you so eloquently put it.

So does this mean by blog is rubbish and you hate it? Does it mean I won't get anyone reading it? Or maybe I won't get listed in the serps because it is a "stock template". Or maybe it just looks ugly? Please tell me your reasoning behind these comments.

Just so you know although I cannot "design worth of shit" I do employ a team of designers. And the reason why I haven't asked them to redesign my blog in a custom template is because its just not a priority. My business is Affiliate Marketing and they are far too busy making websites and projects that earn money. My blog is just a hobby, something self indulgent. Sure it does make money but thats more accident than design.

LOL, just messing with you Kieron. Only designers care about design. Making money (in my experience) rarely has anything to do with interesting design.
 
Sorry to take this thread off topic but the above comment intrigued me.

So you "hate" people who use Blogger stock templates? Any reason for this? I use a Blogger stock template. And the reason I do is that "I cannot design worth of shit" as you so eloquently put it.

So does this mean by blog is rubbish and you hate it? Does it mean I won't get anyone reading it? Or maybe I won't get listed in the serps because it is a "stock template". Or maybe it just looks ugly? Please tell me your reasoning behind these comments.

Just so you know although I cannot "design worth of shit" I do employ a team of designers. And the reason why I haven't asked them to redesign my blog in a custom template is because its just not a priority. My business is Affiliate Marketing and they are far too busy making websites and projects that earn money. My blog is just a hobby, something self indulgent. Sure it does make money but thats more accident than design.

The reason why I hate stock blogger templates is because I've always felt the need to add my own touch, to customize it my own way a little bit to spruce it up and make it different then the others. I don't know why but that is just my own personal prefrence its a pet peve of mine to see people using completely stock templates. (Maybe its because I'm trying to learn more design, who knows).

This however does not mean that your blog is rubbish, it does not mean you won't get listed in the serps, it does not mean people won't read your blog, but it does mean I think its UGLY.

Now I don't technically hate the people who use the stock blogger templates or any other stock template but when I see one on a page my very first thought is one of two things, 1) He cant design worth of shit and 2) This site sucks (Now the site might not suck) but I won't stick around very long to figure that out, I'll probably only read one, maybe two of the articles before I leave (I find it harder to trust the content), but if the blog had an interesting template, and a good look and feel, I'll probably browse around longer looking at the design and shit.

So there are some reason of why I hate stock templates.
 
but when I see one on a page my very first thought is one of two things, 1) He cant design worth of shit and 2) This site sucks (Now the site might not suck) but I won't stick around very long to figure that out, I'll probably only read one, maybe two of the articles before I leave (I find it harder to trust the content), but if the blog had an interesting template, and a good look and feel, I'll probably browse around longer looking at the design and shit.

So there are some reason of why I hate stock templates.

jeez, man. you're really talking bs here.

have you ever realized, that the greatest blogs out there have no fancy design at all? secondly, have you ever noticed that no one cares because it is the content that matters and not the design?

i pity everyone who is not a designer (who should be caring about the individual design of his blog, as this is his online business card) but spends time on designing his blog. because there are so many fancy designs out there but so few good readings as most kiddos care about their photoshop skillz but have forgotten about the fact that they have to tell no story at all.

in fact, i even think that too much graphic design sucks at all, because there are reasons that some templates are chosen like 4-5k times. because people find a common denominator in it, something that universally attracts them about some particular design concept of that specific template. and that is, why i chose no other templates than the ones that have been installed at least a thousand times, because those are the ones that obviously a large portion of people found useful or attractive or whatever.

here are some blogs that you don't read because of their design. unfortunately that just indicates, that you will also not learn anything by reading blogs at all. but ignorance is not a blessing. blogs, you will miss, because of their design issues: eric s. raymond, mr. open source and tim berners lee, inventor of the web.

and back on topic, on the on the whole shoemaker thing: the writer of the ranting blog post is an idiot. shoemoney clearly stated often enough, that he is running various business, that have quite some employees and hence the money that is listed in that post is first of all revenue and somewhere down the road it becomes profit. how profitable shoemoneys business is, we don't know, but then again i don't care because he seems to be doing fine and the fact that he is not spending whatever money he makes on bullshit makes him seem like a very likable person. he has learned his lessons for sure, during the time when money did not come that easy for him and when he for sure had days and nights of worry, asking himself how he would be able to keep on. but he did and that is reason enough for a good story.
 
jeez, man. you're really talking bs here.

have you ever realized, that the greatest blogs out there have no fancy design at all? secondly, have you ever noticed that no one cares because it is the content that matters and not the design?

Yup I've noticed that some really good blogs have crappy designs, the content definatly makes up for it, the design of something doesn't have to be perfect if your writing good content, and therefore yeah I was talking a bit of BS but my above post explained a bit of why I hate stock templates, its mainly just personal preference over anything else.
 
Yup I've noticed that some really good blogs have crappy designs, the content definatly makes up for it, the design of something doesn't have to be perfect if your writing good content, and therefore yeah I was talking a bit of BS but my above post explained a bit of why I hate stock templates, its mainly just personal preference over anything else.

ok, you're cool. because you clearly admit when you say bs and so should i, as i was a bit over the top with my rants.

so peace out, i respect your opinion :)
 
This is a funny thread. The source of his income is in fact true. Some of the numbers may be a little high, and he should have done a little calculation on his subscription vs. PPC, etc. One of the main source sites does in fact get over 12,000 unique hits a day and he is making over $6K a day, just on Azoogle/YPN income. Couple that with subscriptions of which this one particular site has about 200,000 members and say only 10,000 of those signed up for subscription members ship, that's what... $2.4MM a year, plus the Azoogle/YPN income of $6K a day which is another $2.1MM a year and that income is half of his PPC income so that means he's doing close to $8MM a year. And that's just one site mixed among the PPC and leaving out the over thousand sites he has.

(And to note, I've known Jeremy for about 10 years and I've seen the numbers)
 
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