The "BRIDGE" between the 25 and 55-85

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Hi All,


I am new to the forum, and I have been a business owner all of my adult life. I am a Doctor, and have been focusing on the 50 plus market, which includes many of my patients of course.

I have purchased many domanin names of sites with, I believe, great potential. I also have another that focuses on the 15-30 crowd, but that looks like a long term winner that is both a creative outlet and a way to learn the game for me.

I am in a good spot for YOU/us because I can be the bridge, I can talk to the older folks, I have a venture capatilist friend that comes over to my house that has access to 100's of millions of dollars. While his primary aim at the moment is to make me the spokesman for converting Doctors to electronic billing (Gov't is giving Doctors $44 k in incentives to go paperless over the next few years), I also piqued his interest when I mentioned my friends who are making money, the whole Social Networking situation, etc.

The "old money" has been shy for a while to invest after the 2000 bubble, but in the last year, things have turned around rapidly, due to the sucess and valuations of Groupon, Facebook (100 billion market cap), etc.

So I see a very good opportunity to bridge the young (under 25) and hungry with the old, who have unlimited capital and want in, now....

Being an entrepreneur by nature, I want to maximize this opportunity. I don't know how long this goldrush will last, it may turn sour quickly, so going after it NOW is a priority.

Getting wealthy in the .com era meant having a business model, getting it in front of the right investors, and there was a lot of bad business models out there so people got burned.

BUT, now, very suddenly, there is interest from the old money.

I am more then willing to give those who want to participate "skin in the game", it is the only way I know of to really get people to be passionate enough to contribute.

I would like to get roughly 10 of these websites running, with basically all those who wish to sell related products to the website to either link there or put those products there. I do not want to have inventory in these sites, I simply want them to have information about the ailment/condition/supplements, etc on that site and get a commission on their sales from the site. YOU guys know how to drive people to such a site, but also companies need to be driven there, to participate.

Once the right people and the success formula is created, then I can show success that will enable me to obtain, say $5 million from angels, vc's, or just others who want in on the action. Ever see an old guy on the beach looking at young girls? He wants in on the action. The 100 million dollar man who I mentioned earlier is no different.

The key to REAL wealth is stock ownership, unless you are doing so well you just choose to keep it private. But I can tell you from the Google IPO on, there was a lot of wealth created with stock ownership from even minor players in that company. Same with many others.

I would like to tarket December 1st as a date when we have shown proven success, package that success, and either back into a shell to create stock incentives for participants, or be able to get $5 million minimum to get key people salaries, and think big both in the US and globally for 2012.

I have had a successful practice for 10 years, and am in the top 2 percent of my profession, so I have credibility, but more importantly, I can be the bridge between the really talented and ambitious amongst you and the old, seasoned money.

Action Steps
1. Provide feedback here and with PM's if you wish. I am sure there are negatives you want to discuss, no problem, we will get those out of the way but I really want to drive forward.
2. I need help getting the domains funtional, blog ready, content driven, etc. My entertainment site is a good test for this, it will allow me to seperate the "wheat from the chaff" as far as real vs. hypesters.
3.Use your seo, networking, content skills to drive traffic to the sites. Be able to sell product on those sites with a piece of the action, and ad revenue coming in.
4. Quickly get the concept down to a formula and art with numbers to back it up that I can put in front of the old money.
5.Get enough angel capital or VC capital to acquire stock or go forward with big, global site ideas.
6. Give the players stock ownership (shares), which go up in value, also I have thought about giving CONSUMERS of some of the product stock, even 10 shares would make them tell their friends, get them involved, purchase the product.

I have one friend, not a close friend, who retired from Microsoft in his early 30's, he has started the leading site in the world for _____________.
He got stock in Microsoft to allow that to happen.


I believe this is a "win-win"....when I was 20 I simply put the ceiling too low on what I thought I could achieve. Now the ceiling is set high, and I know this can work given serious effort, focus, refocus, energy, passion, and group thought.

Please do not waste our time with trivial negatives or time wasters, we have to act quickly, as you do not know what will happen with the internet, I see things tightening up in a hurry, the time window is narrow imho and I would like to proceed immediately.

One of you mods please allow me to change my name here as I picked it to be humble, and although I am pretty humble this is a little on the bottom...:)














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Frankly I do think it's harder to make money online these days.

You're exactly right things could be tightening up.

But, if you're legit, I don't know what you're expecting to find, here. Because, frankly, I just don't know if anyone's gonna take you seriously.
 
Dumbass said:
Hi All,


I am new to the forum, and I have been a business owner all of my adult life. I am a Doctor, and have been focusing on the 50 plus market, which includes many of my patients of course.

I have purchased many domanin names of sites with, I believe, great potential. I also have another that focuses on the 15-30 crowd, but that looks like a long term winner that is both a creative outlet and a way to learn the game for me.

I am in a good spot for YOU/us because I can be the bridge, I can talk to the older folks, I have a venture capatilist friend that comes over to my house that has access to 100's of millions of dollars. While his primary aim at the moment is to make me the spokesman for converting Doctors to electronic billing (Gov't is giving Doctors $44 k in incentives to go paperless over the next few years), I also piqued his interest when I mentioned my friends who are making money, the whole Social Networking situation, etc.

The "old money" has been shy for a while to invest after the 2000 bubble, but in the last year, things have turned around rapidly, due to the sucess and valuations of Groupon, Facebook (100 billion market cap), etc.

So I see a very good opportunity to bridge the young (under 25) and hungry with the old, who have unlimited capital and want in, now....

Being an entrepreneur by nature, I want to maximize this opportunity. I don't know how long this goldrush will last, it may turn sour quickly, so going after it NOW is a priority.

Getting wealthy in the .com era meant having a business model, getting it in front of the right investors, and there was a lot of bad business models out there so people got burned.

BUT, now, very suddenly, there is interest from the old money.

I am more then willing to give those who want to participate "skin in the game", it is the only way I know of to really get people to be passionate enough to contribute.

I would like to get roughly 10 of these websites running, with basically all those who wish to sell related products to the website to either link there or put those products there. I do not want to have inventory in these sites, I simply want them to have information about the ailment/condition/supplements, etc on that site and get a commission on their sales from the site. YOU guys know how to drive people to such a site, but also companies need to be driven there, to participate.

Once the right people and the success formula is created, then I can show success that will enable me to obtain, say $5 million from angels, vc's, or just others who want in on the action. Ever see an old guy on the beach looking at young girls? He wants in on the action. The 100 million dollar man who I mentioned earlier is no different.

The key to REAL wealth is stock ownership, unless you are doing so well you just choose to keep it private. But I can tell you from the Google IPO on, there was a lot of wealth created with stock ownership from even minor players in that company. Same with many others.

I would like to tarket December 1st as a date when we have shown proven success, package that success, and either back into a shell to create stock incentives for participants, or be able to get $5 million minimum to get key people salaries, and think big both in the US and globally for 2012.

I have had a successful practice for 10 years, and am in the top 2 percent of my profession, so I have credibility, but more importantly, I can be the bridge between the really talented and ambitious amongst you and the old, seasoned money.

Action Steps
1. Provide feedback here and with PM's if you wish. I am sure there are negatives you want to discuss, no problem, we will get those out of the way but I really want to drive forward.
2. I need help getting the domains funtional, blog ready, content driven, etc. My entertainment site is a good test for this, it will allow me to seperate the "wheat from the chaff" as far as real vs. hypesters.
3.Use your seo, networking, content skills to drive traffic to the sites. Be able to sell product on those sites with a piece of the action, and ad revenue coming in.
4. Quickly get the concept down to a formula and art with numbers to back it up that I can put in front of the old money.
5.Get enough angel capital or VC capital to acquire stock or go forward with big, global site ideas.
6. Give the players stock ownership (shares), which go up in value, also I have thought about giving CONSUMERS of some of the product stock, even 10 shares would make them tell their friends, get them involved, purchase the product.

I have one friend, not a close friend, who retired from Microsoft in his early 30's, he has started the leading site in the world for _____________.
He got stock in Microsoft to allow that to happen.


I believe this is a "win-win"....when I was 20 I simply put the ceiling too low on what I thought I could achieve. Now the ceiling is set high, and I know this can work given serious effort, focus, refocus, energy, passion, and group thought.

Please do not waste our time with trivial negatives or time wasters, we have to act quickly, as you do not know what will happen with the internet, I see things tightening up in a hurry, the time window is narrow imho and I would like to proceed immediately.

One of you mods please allow me to change my name here as I picked it to be humble, and although I am pretty humble this is a little on the bottom...:)














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You do realize there are people in this forum in their 20's pulling well over 6 figures a month? A lot of us don't need VC funding to do what we want and if we do get it it'll be in our favor, because we don't need it.
 
Hi Crackpot and others,

Yes. I am sure that there are people on this forum makimg 5 figures a month. While that is terrific, I am interested in equity (stock) ownership. 5 figures a month isn't very exciting once you have been doing it for years.

Like I said, I simply set the ceiling too low. You many think that is fanstastic, but I think you may be setting the bar too low like I did. Why not you, me, or others who want to go higher. I saw one guy obtain wealth, as in 20 million dollars, witha half assed concept in the late 90's, he was given stock by priceline.com for a joke of a company. Stock ownership is the key. VC money is just to quickly ramp up to the level that would attract a buyer (for stock, cash, or both) or do an IPO, although that is more difficult. I also had friends work with companies that did were involved in IPO's,


Please PM me if you are like minded and would like to create a lean, mean business model that could be either profitable enough to attract VC money or better yet, to get enough revenue to get stock. Perhaps both would be necessary. I would like to do this without having to put in money of our own, just sweat equity and expertise should be sufficient.

Please, lets get started. I certainly am not trying to come across as boastful in my posts, I say "why not us". Time is the most precious of assets, I think that more regulations and a tightening climate will emerge quickly and we must act now or the opportunity may recede.


Thank you for the feedback and posts. Can we move forward? Thank you
 
why did you choose the name dumbass and come asking for legitimate business advice?
anyway, no one has the time to help you unless you compensate them.

we are building a huge software package right now, and need investors want to get involved online, ho on board someone else who already knows the net, and what needs to be done. Starting from scratch is hard these days.
If you are serious though, the first thing i would do if i were you is to find myself a kick ass programmer.
good luck :)
 
Dumbass said:
Hi Crackpot and others,

Yes. I am sure that there are people on this forum makimg 5 figures a month. While that is terrific, I am interested in equity (stock) ownership. 5 figures a month isn't very exciting once you have been doing it for years.

Like I said, I simply set the ceiling too low. You many think that is fanstastic, but I think you may be setting the bar too low like I did. Why not you, me, or others who want to go higher. I saw one guy obtain wealth, as in 20 million dollars, witha half assed concept in the late 90's, he was given stock by priceline.com for a joke of a company. Stock ownership is the key. VC money is just to quickly ramp up to the level that would attract a buyer (for stock, cash, or both) or do an IPO, although that is more difficult. I also had friends work with companies that did were involved in IPO's,


Please PM me if you are like minded and would like to create a lean, mean business model that could be either profitable enough to attract VC money or better yet, to get enough revenue to get stock. Perhaps both would be necessary. I would like to do this without having to put in money of our own, just sweat equity and expertise should be sufficient.

Please, lets get started. I certainly am not trying to come across as boastful in my posts, I say "why not us". Time is the most precious of assets, I think that more regulations and a tightening climate will emerge quickly and we must act now or the opportunity may recede.


Thank you for the feedback and posts. Can we move forward? Thank you
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Phoenixz said:
why did you choose the name dumbass and come asking for legitimate business advice?
anyway, no one has the time to help you unless you compensate them.

we are building a huge software package right now, and need investors want to get involved online, ho on board someone else who already knows the net, and what needs to be done. Starting from scratch is hard these days.
If you are serious though, the first thing i would do if i were you is to find myself a kick ass programmer.
good luck :)
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Good question, I guess I was trying to be truthful and humble.

I am not really asking for "advice" I know this can be done, the whole point is to prove to VC or angel that with minimal funds, and knowlege, enterprise (s) can be created on the internet. If it is done 3 times, it is not a fluke, accident, etc. That is all that is needed. The smaller the team the better, more stock and money to go around. But, it the principals are busy and need to delegate the work to others young and hungry to help, they should be and can be compensated as well.

Let's keep it simple. If there are 5 principals, each receives 500,000 shares of stock. Stock price goes to $10. That is 5 million dollars.

10 others receive 10,000-100,000 shares for their efforts.

VC or angelinvestor receives 1,000,000 for their capital and $$ contribution. Depending on profitabliity they may want their money back over time.

Angel or investor wants to see competent management team, great business model, and rapid execution. It is not that complicated, simplicity is key.

I'm not asking for money or advice. I'm trying to assemble a team that is serious and committed, and have the skills to pull off this effort.

Please PM me if you can help, have questions, etc. Or put it here.
 
Dumbass said:
Good question, I guess I was trying to be truthful and humble.

I am not really asking for "advice" I know this can be done, the whole point is to prove to VC or angel that with minimal funds, and knowlege, enterprise (s) can be created on the internet. If it is done 3 times, it is not a fluke, accident, etc. That is all that is needed. The smaller the team the better, more stock and money to go around. But, it the principals are busy and need to delegate the work to others young and hungry to help, they should be and can be compensated as well.

Let's keep it simple. If there are 5 principals, each receives 500,000 shares of stock. Stock price goes to $10. That is 5 million dollars.

10 others receive 10,000-100,000 shares for their efforts.

VC or angelinvestor receives 1,000,000 for their capital and $$ contribution. Depending on profitabliity they may want their money back over time.

Angel or investor wants to see competent management team, great business model, and rapid execution. It is not that complicated, simplicity is key.

I'm not asking for money or advice. I'm trying to assemble a team that is serious and committed, and have the skills to pull off this effort.

Please PM me if you can help, have questions, etc. Or put it here.
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but reading your OP it looks like you're after someone to "help out" with one of your sites, and if it works out ok, you'll present it to some VCs to try to get funding?
 
Dumbass said:
Good question, I guess I was trying to be truthful and humble.

I am not really asking for "advice" I know this can be done, the whole point is to prove to VC or angel that with minimal funds, and knowlege, enterprise (s) can be created on the internet. If it is done 3 times, it is not a fluke, accident, etc. That is all that is needed. The smaller the team the better, more stock and money to go around. But, it the principals are busy and need to delegate the work to others young and hungry to help, they should be and can be compensated as well.

Let's keep it simple. If there are 5 principals, each receives 500,000 shares of stock. Stock price goes to $10. That is 5 million dollars.

10 others receive 10,000-100,000 shares for their efforts.

VC or angelinvestor receives 1,000,000 for their capital and $$ contribution. Depending on profitabliity they may want their money back over time.

Angel or investor wants to see competent management team, great business model, and rapid execution. It is not that complicated, simplicity is key.

I'm not asking for money or advice. I'm trying to assemble a team that is serious and committed, and have the skills to pull off this effort.

Please PM me if you can help, have questions, etc. Or put it here.
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So you're broke or a cheap ass and want free work for your "next great internets". You think said free work can be found here with a CHANCE at stock options (they won't actually be on an exchange like the non-start up tech companies you mentioned to lure some poor dumb ass in) when someday you sell.

If you're wanting "serious and committed people" pay them and give them stock options. No one is going to blindly trust you that you want to work with.
 
Thanks claws, Surgeon, and Crack for the thrashing. The dickroll was sickening to watch, btw...

So back to business. All hazing aside, if you don't think it is possible to get VC funding, Angel funding, or to acquire stock and use it as incentive, you are wrong on all three. I am trying to begin with an exit strategy in mlnd, is their anything wrong with starting up a company, showing profitiability, gettting a few milliuon dollars to make it REALLY explode (with the talent on this site think of what 2-5 milliion dolllars could do for said enterprise), and then either backing into a shell or going public. Wrap your dicks around the concept, not to be adversarial, but another day has gone by and I am still here, a day later. FWIW, broke I am not, and I know from past experience the only way to get true commitment is for someone to have skin in the game. I want to get paid also, I have always been a $300/hour guy, now I feel like I have sold myself way short. I explained that when I was younger I simply set the ceiling too low, now I want to shoot for the moon so to speak. Why the hell not? I'm simply asking for 3-4-5 people here to step up to the plate, be willing to work toward said goals, and then execute. I don't have every answer, but if your really a business person you know that your game plan may have to change, and in this environment, change quickly or you may be sunk. I can go back to my stock page in 1999 when I was daytrading and go through all the shit companies that got funding and then sunk like a battleship.
 
I simply set the ceiling too low, now I want to shoot for the moon so to spea, and I see myself as a bridge because I can speak to the 82 year old guy who wants me to be the spokesman for his medical software company, and I can also hang with youngsters

Why the hell not? I'm simply asking for 3-4-5 people here to step up to the plate, be willing to work toward said goals, and then execute. I don't have every answer, but if your really a business person you know that your game plan may have to change, and in this environment, change quickly or you may be sunk. I can go back to my stock page in 1999 when I was daytrading and go through all the shit companies that got funding and then sunk like a battleship. It is not that difficult. Show every dollar spent, show profitiibility, ROI, hard numbers than can be obtained with effort (iIf you want a hourly wage you are not meant for this venture) . i have already spent money on thiis, I think it is worth investing in, timewise. IF you have doubts about me, I am not guy in Nigeria asking you to wire money, I'm simply trying to get 3 (smaller is better I'm thinking) to 5 people to engageg in showing how websites can be started up and profitable by December 1st. If it is impossible, please state why this cannot be achieved?

My VC guy is about 70 and he is getting 2-6 million secured this week for a medical medical software billing company that has pretty weak game if you break it down, and as I explained, they have their heads turned in this direction due to thethe amazing valuations of all the players which you know.

The easy way is backing into a shell with VC money, the harder way is to is IPO. I CANNOT DO THIS ALONE, stop telling me why it can't work and PM me if you think it CAN work. I want to earn, surely there are others here, (One guy has been helpful thank you).

If you have a good domain name and want to make it happen from scratch with that name, let's do it. Maybe we each bring 2 sites to the table, IDK and I know there is a way to make it happen. If this crusty 82 year old guy can get 6 million this week from my VC with his weak mousetrap, then it will not be difficult to realize this opportunity.
 
Last night I got the word that the VC is giving a 82 year old guy 6 million dollars, for a 6 year old company that has lesss then a million in sales. They have a 50 k nut a month and haven't done shit in there 6 years. My own business has done 5 million, embarrassing in the grand scheme of things but respectible enough platform to move ahead to the next level.


I've got older gentleman with access with tons of cash and their firms heads turned toward this arena, and what more would you like to hear, the sound of the window slamming shut in a couple of weeks/months while the opportunity passes? I cannot do it alone, I need synergy between a few like minded individuals. Those with the circle jerk comments, go do an elephant walk away from this thread. What's the point, its wasting both of our time.
Thanks
 
While I'm sorting thru these comments my VC is finishing up the funding for a very weak medical billing company that has done less then a million in sales in 6 years, with a staff of 12. They will land 5-6 million dollars, their nut is 50 k a month..My own business has done 5 million in sales, paltry in the grand scheme of things, but respectible enough to get to the next level, we are very profitable and have a track record.

for some reason I am attracted the internet now and see the potential, late to the game but I know I can get the money needed to go big with the projects I have outlined. It is not rocket science, but I have to change diapers here, is there anyone serious enough to want to make something happen, the nickel chasers giving me dickrolls, please, keep chasing your nickels and stop wasting our time.
 
Dumbass said:
the nickel chasers giving me dickrolls, please, keep chasing your nickels and stop wasting our time.
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lol are people PMing you dick rolls?



My take on this. I think it is backwards, Dumbass, that you are looking at building a business to get some funding, and exit with stock options or what have you.

Focusing on the gold is good no doubt, but how are you actually going to build value in your new venture? What is it that is actually going to make your venture successful? Are you even trying to create a successful business or are you just trying to create a semblance of a business that has a shot at conning an old venture crone out of his capital by pitching .com savvy infographs and making unrealistic projections?

Or am I missing something completely?
 
Andrew Scherer said:
lol are people PMing you dick rolls?



My take on this. I think it is backwards, Dumbass, that you are looking at building a business to get some funding, and exit with stock options or what have you.

Focusing on the gold is good no doubt, but how are you actually going to build value in your new venture? What is it that is actually going to make your venture successful? Are you even trying to create a successful business or are you just trying to create a semblance of a business that has a shot at conning an old venture crone out of his capital by pitching .com savvy infographs and making unrealistic projections?

Or am I missing something completely?
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Good questions, thank you.

I seek to create a enterprise with 3-5 individuals who can start from scratch, 3-5 websites, and demonstrate profitibility and ROI within a short time frame, using the expertise of all the individuals in said enterprise. I would like to then acquire VC funding to acquire stock, and continue to build by being able to attract more skilled saavy internet folks thru equity ownership.

I have not disclosed all my intent here. I also am working with a lab to produce a first to market treatment for arthritis that is natural, safe, and knocks glucosomine on its keister. While I perfect this supplement, I would like to have a storefront site to market related products to the anti-aging population, baby boomers, and this is arena is ideal for me as I am in the field. I do not know if it will take a month to get this product to market, or longer. I have other products that are basically unknown in the US that with proper marketing, can also be blockbusters. I would like to be able to market
these properly with funds and stock to make it a complete package.

One of my lifes ambitions is bringing natural products to people who can benefit from avoiding pharmaceuticals and going natural.

I must go to the office now, please feel free to ask more questions. I am trying to attract the few guys/gals who have a genuine interest in making something big happen, but I admit that I do not have all the answers, thanks for the input and I look forward to more of you stepping forward with ideas. Thanks for reading.
 
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